Unity Something Unlimited [v2.4.5] [Gunsmoke Games]

[SmokeShank]

It's cool to see you and SmokeShank posting around here, but to be honest, I'll wait and see if the content improves. Actions speak louder than words, and the lackluster content and abandoning old girls + always introducing new ones have been common complaints for ages.

Hopefully at least you and SmokeShank can pass along bugs faster, some of them have been in the game for a long time. Harley's costume menu for example was still buggy as of the previous version, requiring you to Alt+F4 out of the game. And considering she hasn't had content added in ages, that bug's been around a long time.

I just had a long meeting with SR7 and am able to communicate more with you now. I know this month he overhauled several systems in the game to make it run better and less buggy. He wanted to do these for a while but when content is king, people don't want to pledge to a systems overhaul month. As far as actions speak louder than words, I completely agree, wait and see. I don't want your pledge unless you feel strongly about supporting the development of this project. Lastly we will be communicating better with everyone inside and outside our Patreon moving forward. There will be roadmap which will target older characters, and we will work towards finishing those.

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I can understand the frustration regarding the "slow" progress. Please remember that this is a one person project not 6 like summertime saga, or even 2 like MITY. But with that aside I want to say that the older characters were never abandoned, what happened is they go to a state of needing animations. Adding those animations (which people loved initially) was they add a significant time sink (upwards of 2 weeks per) to development. When you only have roughly 2.5 weeks a month to get content in you reach for the low lying fruit in order to get something out the door. This was a mistake and we are aware of that. Moving forward we will be adding simpler animations to finish off characters (flip book style) and then when time permits go back and complete those that can be completed. Thank you for taking the time to write all that up, it really helps us get better.

 

[CodeMonkey]

Just wish SR7 would do more with robotics lab at a later date, just saying there are some interesting characters and interactions to be had. Darci Mason, Randa Duane, replica's of other characters.

 

[BubbleMunch]

If this game ever has an event that introduces older Starfire and Raven or ever includes characters like Jinx and Argent and if both artist would be willing to collab, Wilko does some nice Raven/Starfire/Jinx/Argent art.

 

[Skads]

If this game ever has an event that introduces older Starfire and Raven or ever includes characters like Jinx and Argent and if both artist would be willing to collab, View attachment 56115 Wilko does some nice Raven/Starfire/Jinx/Argent art.

Im against this, the art in the game is made to look like the JL tv shows.

 

[gnd53]

If this game ever has an event that introduces older Starfire and Raven or ever includes characters like Jinx and Argent and if both artist would be willing to collab, View attachment 56115 Wilko does some nice Raven/Starfire/Jinx/Argent art.

Wow I’d be incredibly disappointed if that kind of art made it into this game.

There are plenty of things another person could work on to ease the work load without compromising the game, but mixing multiple art styles would be garbage.

 

[CodeMonkey]

If this game ever has an event that introduces older Starfire and Raven or ever includes characters like Jinx and Argent and if both artist would be willing to collab, View attachment 56115 Wilko does some nice Raven/Starfire/Jinx/Argent art.

so against this as you are mention distinct art styles that differ greatly from the Aesthetic the game goes for, go watch JL, JLU, Batman the Animated Series(or any of it's movies) , Superman the Animated Series, or Batman Beyond all of them have a very distinct art style that they all use hell Young Justice picks up the art style and so does Teen Titans to some regards, the only two DCAU series that really don't follow the style so great are Project Zeta and Static Shock, but I think this is because they were more their own content rather then pre-established and that they are far more light hearted and also probably cheaper animation budgets as they were both created during the dying years of saturday morning cartoons.

tho as far as Static shock goes not sure how light hearted a cartoon is when half the school is either Bullies or some kind of wannabe gangster...

 

[HaseoOfDeath]

Ever since Sunset implemented the Events system, he can now do a wide assortment of things without being bogged down by the current SU system of the Bordello, Cells, etc.

While he plans on doing an event every so and so update, you guys will be seeing more characters join in. This was the main point of the Events system. Basically do things that would otherwise seem a bit weird in the main SU story.

At the end of this month you will see a lot of things that flow better but the build that is coming in April will be the update that Sunset wants to make the best he can. You will all be getting a lot of Streams and you will be getting the first Roadmap. The April update if everything works out right, will really showcase what a 2 month build can bring.

Sunset should be streaming either today or tomorrow. Canadian internet is very...shitty. So keep an eye out for that.

Stay tuned until the end of the month for more news outside of Streams.

Take care!

 

[jonrage39]

so against this as you are mention distinct art styles that differ greatly from the Aesthetic the game goes for, go watch JL, JLU, Batman the Animated Series(or any of it's movies) , Superman the Animated Series, or Batman Beyond all of them have a very distinct art style that they all use hell Young Justice picks up the art style and so does Teen Titans to some regards, the only two DCAU series that really don't follow the style so great are Project Zeta and Static Shock, but I think this is because they were more their own content rather then pre-established and that they are far more light hearted and also probably cheaper animation budgets as they were both created during the dying years of saturday morning cartoons.

tho as far as Static shock goes not sure how light hearted a cartoon is when half the school is either Bullies or some kind of wannabe gangster...

DCAU was basically created by Bruce Timm, the later stuff all built on what he started. Even if he wasn't the main artist he was basically the overlord of everything animated for DC, so as other artists came in they all emulated his style to make all the different shows/movies feel like they were a part of the same universe.

 

[CodeMonkey]

DCAU was basically created by Bruce Timm, the later stuff all built on what he started. Even if he wasn't the main artist he was basically the overlord of everything animated for DC, so as other artists came in they all emulated his style to make all the different shows/movies feel like they were a part of the same universe.

DCAU does not incorporate all DC Animated Projects just certain ones. mostly around Warner Bros Afternoon animation block and JL and JLU which sent to Cartoon network, still kind of bitter that Batman beyond ended early because of JL despite being the second most critically acclaimed & Awarded series in the DCAU. tho I keep purposely leaving out Gotham Girls from the DCAU cause A UGH... , B. it really doesn't add anything to discussion except some throwaway characters, C. Worst Animation out of the lot of them you can tell this one was cobbled together on the smallest Budget which isn't a surprise since it's blasted web cartoon.

so the following are the DCAU
Batman: Tas, it's sequel that everyone automatically lumps in with it The New Batman Adventures, Batman: Mask of the Phantasm (loads of refrences to this in the original show), Batman & Mr. Freeze: Sub Zero (the Theatrical Finale for TAS before TNBA was made), Batman: Mystery of the Batwoman(takes place before the Flashback events of Return of the Joker, but after the three part episode Starcrossed in JL but before the episode Initiation in JLU) Batman & Harley Quinn (Bruce Timm says it is part of the DCAU the studio has failed to comment on if this is actually the case, tho there are references that are not in TAS)

Superman: Tas, Superman: Last Son of Krypton, The Batman Superman Movie: World's Finest, Superman: Brainiac Attacks.

Batman Beyond, Batman Beyond Return of the Joker (which the flash back scenes were a re-imagining of the Killing Joke comic, which would later have it's own animated movie in a similar but darker style, but was not canonical.)

Justice League, Justice League Unlimited

Static Shock (way to many cross over episodes. but adds another tech company besides star labs)

Project Zeta (really only ties into Batman Beyond)

Gotham Girls..... (because some twisted mind at the Studio thought this was a good idea to link this?)

Lobo (cause why not?)

and about 30 or so comic book series with way too many focusing on Poison Ivy and Harley Quinn

What's Not in the DCAU,
Teen Titans, Young Justice, any animated Movie that isn't Listed above.
Edit: For the Record, just because a Static Shock episode makes reference to the TT it was a reference to a cancelled project that got replaced with the TT we know, which I'm not sure how it would of went as the JL Pilot has Cyborg as a Girl.

 

[gnd53]

so against this as you are mention distinct art styles that differ greatly from the Aesthetic the game goes for, go watch JL, JLU, Batman the Animated Series(or any of it's movies) , Superman the Animated Series, or Batman Beyond all of them have a very distinct art style that they all use hell Young Justice picks up the art style and so does Teen Titans to some regards, the only two DCAU series that really don't follow the style so great are Project Zeta and Static Shock, but I think this is because they were more their own content rather then pre-established and that they are far more light hearted and also probably cheaper animation budgets as they were both created during the dying years of saturday morning cartoons.

tho as far as Static shock goes not sure how light hearted a cartoon is when half the school is either Bullies or some kind of wannabe gangster...

But they are all distinct series. You would never expect to see the JLU art direction used in an episode of Teen Titans.

Similarly, this game has a distinct (and in my opinion excellent) art style that would look completely out of place in other games.

 

[CodeMonkey]

But they are all distinct series. You would never expect to see the JLU art direction used in an episode of Teen Titans.

Similarly, this game has a distinct (and in my opinion excellent) art style that would look completely out of place in other games.

seriously dunno why people have a fascination with trying to explain something to me when it's not needed you quite clearly can see it's a reply to someone asking for an artist like wilko (who has a very distinct and gawdy artstyle) which is what garnered the response, but then again I guess some people are just too daft to read something other then the white box. if anything I could probably talk circles around half the people trying to explain things to me because I've actually watched everything in the DCAU and actually enjoy it. as Far as Bubble Munch's comment goes the one everyone seems to effing ignore while trying to explain an Explanation. amtmodollas at Deviant art would be a much better Artist over all for a project like this then Wilko

as amtmodollas (a pixel artist btw) has experience redoing characters in the DCAU style, the Young Justice Style, and Injustice art style. Considering they did all the CW DC heroes in a DCAU style I'd rather go with them then that example of Wilko's work.

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[jonrage39]

seriously dunno why people have a fascination with trying to explain something to me when it's not needed you quite clearly can see it's a reply to someone asking for an artist like wilko (who has a very distinct and gawdy artstyle) which is what garnered the response, but then again I guess some people are just too daft to read something other then the white box. if anything I could probably talk circles around half the people trying to explain things to me because I've actually watched everything in the DCAU and actually enjoy it. as Far as Bubble Munch's comment goes the one everyone seems to effing ignore while trying to explain an Explanation. amtmodollas at Deviant art would be a much better Artist over all for a project like this then Wilko

as amtmodollas (a pixel artist btw) has experience redoing characters in the DCAU style, the Young Justice Style, and Injustice art style. Considering they did all the CW DC heroes in a DCAU style I'd rather go with them then that example of Wilko's work.

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Dunno if this was partially in response to me, but I wasn't trying to correct you or anything, I was agreeing with you, and attempting to expound on your point for the benefit of people who aren't as familiar with the source material.

 

[gnd53]

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Okay rereading through this thread I realize I got confused at one point. I was meaning to reply to BubbleMunch, not you.

 

[rle68]

The one thing that seems to be the most agreed upon aspect is the art...seems as if if the art matches it doesnt really matter who they add.. i mean lets be honest if the art is good who cares where they come from this isnt cannon...

i mean take the bj scenes in here.. they were basically all copied from SDT super deep throat in case you wonder.... now i dont care but its funny to see people not know that fact

i do like the fact that once a month we get new content i do wish there was more to some girls then others but we all have our own likes.. so nothing news shattering there

i tend to think its a free game and if you like it fine if you dont thats fine too if you want to donate good for you if not good for you too...it just bothers me that people who do donate think they have the market cornered on what is right or wrong in a game.. opinions are like assholes we all have them and they all stink at one point or another

 

[CodeMonkey]

The one thing that seems to be the most agreed upon aspect is the art...seems as if if the art matches it doesnt really matter who they add.. i mean lets be honest if the art is good who cares where they come from this isnt cannon...

the fun fact about DC especially the DCAU is if you understand what is available there is absolutely no individual Lex could not target in this game if it's properly written for. you have time travel, mind control, robot duplicants, double crossing, secret para military organizations, Alternate realities, etc... while this game isn't cannon it can easily be written in such a way if the material is appropriately applied that it could quite mistakenly be as long as it keeps a strong storyline and works out some of the finer kinks.

 

[steverogers5]

Nice! i lost that option :coldsweat: will check it out.
Also noted you can upgrade the the device a third level, i take it that is not possible in the game's current version..

Hmm..I'm not sure what version you've got, (I have 2.1.3) but I've always been able to upgrade the device to level 3 in my game. In fact I think you have to have it at this level for more out of the girls. In fact if I remember correctly to get everything from Batgirl you have to have upgraded her to level 6 on her individual screen. I know the devices when used for capture can only be upgraded to level 3, but then afterwards you can continue upgrading them for each girl in question to get more out of them in the game. Though be wary not to go one step further beyond six. As you could end up unlocking Batgirl which will send her to the cells for that whole story part, and thus you'll have skipped her Private Room scenes in the Bordello.

 

[RobertoCasas]

i mean take the bj scenes in here.. they were basically all copied from SDT super deep throat in case you wonder.... now i dont care but its funny to see people not know that fact

Only part I disagree with, unless there's a version of Super Deep Throat that's not 100% side view.
Tala's bj is front view, Harley's is between front and 3/4. Can't remember others. will check list.

 

[rle68]

Only part I disagree with, unless there's a version of Super Deep Throat that's not 100% side view.
Tala's bj is front view, Harley's is between front and 3/4. Can't remember others. will check list.

good point but those have been added since the start... mercy bj is almost direct copy..in the underground.. and in the club is one as well.. should have stated that my bad

 

[BubbleMunch]

seriously dunno why people have a fascination with trying to explain something to me when it's not needed you quite clearly can see it's a reply to someone asking for an artist like wilko (who has a very distinct and gawdy artstyle) which is what garnered the response, but then again I guess some people are just too daft to read something other then the white box. if anything I could probably talk circles around half the people trying to explain things to me because I've actually watched everything in the DCAU and actually enjoy it. as Far as Bubble Munch's comment goes the one everyone seems to effing ignore while trying to explain an Explanation. amtmodollas at Deviant art would be a much better Artist over all for a project like this then Wilko

as amtmodollas (a pixel artist btw) has experience redoing characters in the DCAU style, the Young Justice Style, and Injustice art style. Considering they did all the CW DC heroes in a DCAU style I'd rather go with them then that example of Wilko's work.

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Those designs are 10/10, the whole Wilko thing seems silly now that I actually seen a picture of what they look like in the style. I guess I was thinking if they collaborated Wilko would not put too much of their style in and it would look as closely as possible to the DCAU art style.

 

[CodeMonkey]

Those designs are 10/10, the whole Wilko thing seems silly now that I actually seen a picture of what they look like in the style. I guess I was thinking if they collaborated Wilko would put too much of their style in and it would look as closely as possible to the DCAU art style.

It's a minimalistic style used for animation that is suppose to allow for ease of expression, it's a tough style to actually pull off, the young justice art style is a variation of it, more is done in the young justice style as it takes less time to produce then DCAU's because one was done digitally and the other by hand. About 95% of Batman:TAS was animated on black paper so a lot of the shadowing and dark scenes are just absences, also why a good portion of scenes with Harley quinn parts of her costume are a bluish white rather then true white, this wasn't so much a design choice as it's tough to make white appear white on top of black.

when I say black paper I mean they did the animation cell (a clear sheet) on top of black paper, it was a cost saving maneuver as well as a way for them to get those rich dark tones with a limited color pallet.