VN Ren'Py Abandoned Soul Of The Paintings [v0.9] [TiDeMooN]

[Radriewyn]

I really wish the dev would either put this one or room mate from hell on hold. It seems like both or getting worse because they are trying to divide time between the two. I use to love this one, but the more they update the worse it gets. When it goes from good story with some sex scenes to little to no story with lots of sex scenes and also changing the protag doesn't sit well in my opinion. On top of mistakes in which character says what, hell it is even getting so bad that some of the chars looked different (imho worse) from what they looked like at the beginning. This used to be a consistent update in story and chars, now it has taken a nose dive on both fronts.

 

[Alley_Cat]

Is it possible to play as Alex from the beginning? I downloaded the game because of the female protag tag, but I only get (and hear about) the male option.

 

[Mormont]

Is it possible to play as Alex from the beginning? I downloaded the game because of the female protag tag, but I only get (and hear about) the male option.

No, you are both male and female MC so far it's mostly been scenes with the male MC with a few of Alex.

 

[anne O'nymous]

TiDeMooN , during the scene between Rhea and Alex, the dialogs are inverted in regard of the CG you used.
When Rhea eat out Alex, she's saying how good it feel to be eated out, and when it's the opposite, then Alex talk about how good Rhea tongue feel.

The decision to make Alex the protagonist, abandon everything the story had been building, and force the player to play out the betrayal of our harem girls must count as one of the worst storytelling choices I’ve ever seen.

Just epically bad.

I fail to see how it can be bad that all the girls in my harem start to be intimate with my sister...
Don't you want them to be happy ? Don't you want them to slowly open to bisexuality ? Don't you want them to accept an open relationship with you ? Don't you want them to eat each other out while you take turn in their pussies and asses ?

But, more than all this, don't you want them to continue to accept your dick once you'll get ride of the curse ? Because right now, most of them would just reject you, they aren't "corrupted" enough yet. It's the sister opening their mind that will do this, in the same time than helping you to definitively be ride of the curse at the end.

 

[frozenfeet]

TiDeMooN , during the scene between Rhea and Alex, the dialogs are inverted in regard of the CG you used.
When Rhea eat out Alex, she's saying how good it feel to be eated out, and when it's the opposite, then Alex talk about how good Rhea tongue feel.




I fail to see how it can be bad that all the girls in my harem start to be intimate with my sister...
Don't you want them to be happy ? Don't you want them to slowly open to bisexuality ? Don't you want them to accept an open relationship with you ? Don't you want them to eat each other out while you take turn in their pussies and asses ?

But, more than all this, don't you want them to continue to accept your dick once you'll get ride of the curse ? Because right now, most of them would just reject you, they aren't "corrupted" enough yet. It's the sister opening their mind that will do this, in the same time than helping you to definitively be ride of the curse at the end.

No.

 

[Tyrranus]

damn... this sounded really interesting and was plannin to give it a go but sounds like the ending takes the game in a direction Id hate

 

[ubblesnop]

I fail to see how it can be bad that all the girls in my harem start to be intimate with my sister...
Don't you want them to be happy ?

We’re going to run into some issues here where “your kink is not my kink and that’s ok,” when we discuss this. For me, and for a lot of others, there is NO DIFFERENCE between this and any other form of NTR. Your argument can be applied to any male character: “How can it be bad that the girls in the story are intimate with Eric, don’t you want them to be happy?”

But this, in this game, the player HAS NO CHOICE in the matter. It’s like playing a heterosexual porn game and suddenly the dev decides the male protagonist wants to get gangbanged by a group of men. As gaming, it’s idiotic; as porn, it’s a huge turnoff; as storytelling, it’s a betrayal of the audience.

And before anyone throws down, yes, I *did* support this dev on Patreon, for months. I regret it 100%.

Don't you want them to slowly open to bisexuality ?

I don’t blame you if that’s your thing, but I’d rather get punched in the face, repeatedly.

Don't you want them to accept an open relationship with you ?

That sounds fucking miserable. Have you ever known straight guys in open relationships with hot girls? The girls get tons of action while the guy sits at home alone eating pizza and drinking his sorrows away.

Don't you want them to eat each other out while you take turn in their pussies and asses ?

No, I don’t.

 

[frozenfeet]

I fail to see

Of course you fail to see because you are you and I am me. I dont think like you. I dont want to think like you. I want to be myself not you. You go do you and I will go and do me.

 

[-CookieMonster666-]

TiDeMooN , during the scene between Rhea and Alex, the dialogs are inverted in regard of the CG you used.
When Rhea eat out Alex, she's saying how good it feel to be eated out, and when it's the opposite, then Alex talk about how good Rhea tongue feel.

The decision to make Alex the protagonist, abandon everything the story had been building, and force the player to play out the betrayal of our harem girls must count as one of the worst storytelling choices I’ve ever seen.

Just epically bad.

I fail to see how it can be bad that all the girls in my harem start to be intimate with my sister...
Don't you want them to be happy ? Don't you want them to slowly open to bisexuality ? Don't you want them to accept an open relationship with you ? Don't you want them to eat each other out while you take turn in their pussies and asses ?

But, more than all this, don't you want them to continue to accept your dick once you'll get ride of the curse ? Because right now, most of them would just reject you, they aren't "corrupted" enough yet. It's the sister opening their mind that will do this, in the same time than helping you to definitively be ride of the curse at the end.

No.

damn... this sounded really interesting and was plannin to give it a go but sounds like the ending takes the game in a direction Id hate

We’re going to run into some issues here where “your kink is not my kink and that’s ok,” when we discuss this. For me, and for a lot of others, there is NO DIFFERENCE between this and any other form of NTR. Your argument can be applied to any male character: “How can it be bad that the girls in the story are intimate with Eric, don’t you want them to be happy?”

But this, in this game, the player HAS NO CHOICE in the matter. It’s like playing a heterosexual porn game and suddenly the dev decides the male protagonist wants to get gangbanged by a group of men. As gaming, it’s idiotic; as porn, it’s a huge turnoff; as storytelling, it’s a betrayal of the audience.

And before anyone throws down, yes, I *did* support this dev on Patreon, for months. I regret it 100%.

Don't you want them to slowly open to bisexuality ?

I don’t blame you if that’s your thing, but I’d rather get punched in the face, repeatedly.

Don't you want them to accept an open relationship with you ?

That sounds fucking miserable. Have you ever known straight guys in open relationships with hot girls? The girls get tons of action while the guy sits at home alone eating pizza and drinking his sorrows away.

Don't you want them to eat each other out while you take turn in their pussies and asses ?

No, I don’t.

This is exactly the issue I have with the turn in the direction of the game. Firstly, the way it's done feels like NTR, even if it's not supposed to be. The MC doesn't go to the party because he doesn't want to kill Kylie, so instead sister goes, flirting with and/or sleeping with 3 girls from the harem. It doesn't feel like she's "helping" in any way; it feels like she's horny and trying to take girls away from you. (She even says, "I swear if [the MC] doesn't step up with her I'm going to".) This is drastically different from what the MC's sister does in Parental Love, for example. And what's worse, there is literally no option to avoid it. You have no choice but to watch (or quit playing the game).

I don't have a problem with the incest scenes. I don't have a problem with the lesbian scenes. I don't have a problem with the MC's sister helping. But what she's doing feels almost like an attack on what the MC has. I don't even have a problem with NTR per se. But when I'm playing a game, I want to know what to expect from it going forward. Sudden, out-of-nowhere pseudo-NTR is not only jarring but it makes very little sense. The actual plot of the game was previously:

The MC gets cursed with a tattoo that forces him to fuck or die. Women who feel attracted to the MC will succumb to their lusts and fall under the control of the tattoo. If there is mutual love between the MC and a woman, culminating that in sex will kill the woman and revitalize the witch. The MC decides he'll avoid doing that to Kylie at all costs.​

Now the plot is:

The MC gets cursed with a tattoo that forces him to fuck or die. Women who feel attracted to the MC will succumb to their lusts and fall under the control of the tattoo. If there is mutual love between the MC and a woman, culminating that in sex will kill the woman and revitalize the witch. The MC's sister, realizing the predicament of her brother, decides to take advantage of him and steal everything she can. She pretends to care about him but really just wants to screw him and everyone else, quite literally.​

That kind of plot shift is ridiculous and nonsensical. Personally, I don't think the sister being in the game is a problem; I think it's what TiDeMooN has done with her, viz., the approach used in her story progression that's the biggest problem.

 

[anne O'nymous]

That sounds fucking miserable. Have you ever known straight guys in open relationships with hot girls? The girls get tons of action while the guy sits at home alone eating pizza and drinking his sorrows away.

Well, it was just for less than the two summer months, they were just three, and I was young. But while I surely shared some pizza, and probably stayed home alone few times (it was almost 30 years ago, my memory haven't kept track of things like this), I clearly remember that I never had to drink my sorrows away. If it was what happened to you, you clearly did something wrong.
By the way, they did had tons of action, way more than me, and I'm alright with this. I was alone, they were three... not a single second I expected to be able to fuck them all to sleep every day, and not a single second they expected this from me.

Of course you fail to see because you are you and I am me. I dont think like you. I dont want to think like you. I want to be myself not you. You go do you and I will go and do me.

Interesting. You have all right to express your disliking for what the game become, but when I express my liking, I should just have shut the fuck up because I'm not you...

Now the plot is:
[...] The MC's sister, realizing the predicament of her brother, decides to take advantage of him and steal everything she can. She pretends to care about him but really just wants to screw him and everyone else, quite literally.

That's a hell of biased reading of the dialogs, as well as a sad and depressing opinion about girls.

 

[Alley_Cat]

When does it switch to Alex's POV? I'm still a little intrigued about this game, I just don't want to play as a male MC.

I'm finding it fascinating that I have the same problem with the game as many others seems to - the switching of the characters, but for the opposite reason. The idea of the sister stealing his power and women sounds fun, but then again, I do enjoy lesbian harem games when I can find them.

 

[frozenfeet]

Interesting. You have all right to express your disliking for what the game become, but when I express my liking, I should just have shut the fuck up because I'm not you...

But none of us were expressing it towards you. You were expressing it towards individuals in this chat. None of us were telling others in this chat what they should like unlike you.

You can talk about what you like all you want, no one cares. Its telling others that they should like it too, just because you do, is when it becomes annoying.

 

[anne O'nymous]

None of us were telling others in this chat what they should like unlike you.

Half of what I said was questions, while the other half was an explanation about why the game take this turn... None of this was near to the stupidity you describe.

It's you who decided to take personally a diverging opinion, and then to enforce your right to be different (which was denied at no time), instead of doing what cookiemonster666 did ; explain why, for you, it's a bad move. Now, thanks to him, I don't fail anymore to understand why. It's because some persons see it as NTR.

 

[frozenfeet]

Half of what I said was questions, while the other half was an explanation about why the game take this turn... None of this was near to the stupidity you describe.

It's you who decided to take personally a diverging opinion, and then to enforce your right to be different (which was denied at no time), instead of doing what cookiemonster666 did ; explain why, for you, it's a bad move. Now, thanks to him, I don't fail anymore to understand why. It's because some persons see it as NTR.

I'll just let you keep that stupidity to yourself then.

 

[anne O'nymous]

I'll just let you keep that stupidity to yourself then.

Off course I'll keep it. You offered it with so much passion, it would be rude for me to do otherwise.

 

[frozenfeet]

Off course I'll keep it. You offered it with so much passion, it would be rude for me to do otherwise.

You are welcome .

 

[-CookieMonster666-]

That's a hell of biased reading of the dialogs, as well as a sad and depressing opinion about girls.

Not at all. She specifically says she'll take Kylie if the MC isn't going to act. She hits on every single girl she meets, even if the MC has already mentioned he's got a relationship with them. She did this even before having the tattoo transferred. With a sister like that, why would the MC ever want her around? If the MC were in a normal situation, clearly the sister would be hitting on his girlfriend as well.

And it's not an opinion about girls; it's an opinion about one single character in a game. That's a pretty big leap to assume I feel that way about all girls or something, as you imply.

 

[anne O'nymous]

Not at all. She specifically says she'll take Kylie if the MC isn't going to act.

If the MC isn't going to act ; the condition is important here. She don't say that she'll steal Kylie, and didn't tried during the party. She's waiting to see if her brother really care about her or not.
If I put something on display on the side of the road, clearly stating that I don't want it, the person that will take it is not stealing it.

With a sister like that, why would the MC ever want her around?

Because she's his sister, he know her from way longer than we know her. he'd seen her behave all her life, seen her hit on girls during all her teenage years. It's not the first time she hit on a girl that he like, or with who he's in a relationship. If she was a bitch that had already stolen at least one of his girl in the past, he would have put a stop on this instead of what he did.

He know how the power works, and he used it on more than a person in the atelier. When Rhea entered in the room, he could have stay, neither her (influenced) nor his sister (they had sex more than once) would have cared, he know it. He could also have asked his sister to command Rhea to have sex with him ; from his experience in the atelier, he know that it works, and that it effectively offer a release of the power.
But instead of this, he proposed to his sister to use Rhea as release for the power, while he was somewhere else. Simply because he know her. He trust her, and know that she isn't a menace, she'll not steal his girls. They are his, and he agree to share them with his sister.

It doesn't mean that you have to agree with this, but it's what happen. It's sharing, not stealing.

 

[Radriewyn]

If the MC isn't going to act ; the condition is important here. She don't say that she'll steal Kylie, and didn't tried during the party. She's waiting to see if her brother really care about her or not.
If I put something on display on the side of the road, clearly stating that I don't want it, the person that will take it is not stealing it.

The biggest problem, in my opinion, is that it shouldn't have been said by the sister. The sister "knows" that the MC loves Kylie, and is trying his best to keep away from her because he is afraid the power will be used on her. But the sister says that if the MC isn't going to act? How is he suppose to act? He can't go to her because of what the witch wants. So back to the point it should not have been said by the sister, and then Kylie saying that about the MC, making it out like the MC doesn't want to be with her. Yeah, lets just continue going down the rabbit hole with this game.

I'm not treating the sister deal as NTR personally, I just hate playing a game that is suppose to be a male protag, then just out the blue, oh look at me now I'm playing a female protag.

They really need to work less on animations, and more on story, or quit rushing the coding/story to make more time for 4 animations of the same thing just different views of it.

 

[anne O'nymous]

[...] How is he suppose to act? He can't go to her because of what the witch wants. So back to the point it should not have been said by the sister, and then Kylie saying that about the MC, making it out like the MC doesn't want to be with her.

I can be wrong, but for me, it was the premise of what the game will become ; a bother and a sister sharing the girls. Therefore, it doesn't mater this much which one act first, simply because the girl will always be for both of them.
But I fully understand your point of view. It wasn't necessarily the best way to present it. Simply adding a, "for him", after the, "I'll do it", would have changed a lot of things.

I'm not treating the sister deal as NTR personally, I just hate playing a game that is suppose to be a male protag, then just out the blue, oh look at me now I'm playing a female protag.

Perhaps have I play too much games already, but it don't bother me this much. For me she isn't the protagonist, just another character that time to time I have to control.
But once again I got your point, and I understand that it can be confusing at least. Especially if you aren't more than that into female MC.

They really need to work less on animations, and more on story, or quit rushing the coding/story to make more time for 4 animations of the same thing just different views of it.

+1 on this one. While still having a good amount of content, in regard of the CG, this update felt particularly empty.