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My big problem with how things are going is that, even if he needs the extra time, it feel like he isnt doing much, because he keeps redoing the same things over and over again, for multiple reasons, im pretty sure the sister and the aunt had at least 2 "re-updates" for each!

this new one he is working on will take around 4 months to be delivered, thats 1/3rd of a year, for a character that already had content remade.

as things are progressing, i wouldnt be surprised if he anounce that he will need even more time, and up it for 1 update every 6 months.

and this isnt to say his content is bad, but its also nowhere near as good as many people say, with multiple updates being 2 hours of fetch, only to get the same scene in diferent flavors at the end. for example Mia is probably the worst offender, being ALOT of busy work, only to be rewarded with almost nothing! but hey, at least we did get something diferent with her, as opposed to pretty much the rest of the cast "as vanilla as possible"...
I personally do not understand, how you condition yourself, to feel butthurt over something, that is none of your concern? What time he takes, or what he does with his game, is none of anyone elses business, go do something else.
 
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To be fair, he tried shorter updates before and people didn't like them because content was missing and they felt rushed. Hence he went from 50 to 100 day releases. Focussed updates may sound good but I don't think they really fit the story writing in general. Roxxy's update for example would have beem worse without Missy and Becca and for example Mia's story makes very little sense without Helen, etc.

Else it's worth noting that it's a difference wether a dev actually sells the game like most (early access in various degrees) or wether the game is free for all. In one case people obviously expext the game, because they pay for early access, in the other case it's less clear.

I think you missunderstood. Patreons can "buy" dialogs which the drunk pirate at the pier will shout if you activate it in the menue. But else there's no additional content for patreons. Everybody gets the same game.
It's more than 100 days update though. The current update is only 65% completed, and it's been well over 3 months. Again, I really really hope I'm proven wrong by this upcoming update, and it's going to be a long and succesful one. But I won't hold my breath. This always happens with these kind of games, with a huge fanbase.
 
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It's more than 100 days update though. The current update is only 65% completed, and it's been well over 3 months. Again, I really really hope I'm proven wrong by this upcoming update, and it's going to be a long and succesful one. But I won't hold my breath. This always happens with these kind of games, with a huge fanbase.
You may end up being proven right, but so what? The point being, that all this is still none of your business to concern yourself about. Whether you like his busniess activity or not, is irrelevant and a waste of time and thread space.
 

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It's gona be ready when it's ready, and Summertime Saga is already more complete then any other game I see around here.
Not by a long shot. People get so hyper focused on this one game to the exclusion of anything else. So most people dismiss other games which may fill in the downtime just to sit in here and bitch for the umpteenth time about things they can't change. Mental Masturbation. Slow killer of people's minds and time more than the real thing...

I'm tired of everyone blindly defending this game from legitimate complaints.

If you think you're tired, try reading it for 500+ pages and how many times this cycle has gone on. People SHOULD focus on other games if the production values on this one are too long. Instead, they snipe each other, denigrate DC and forget that there are other games to look up while this one is on the backburner.

Hell, at this point, I'm just gonna go on Nutaku and try those games out. Whether SS updates doesn't stop me from playing Roundscape Adorevia and other games and trying out new things. But damned if people don't just look up the completed tags around here and YOLO on something new.

To each their own, I guess...
 
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You may end up being proven right, but so what? The point being, that all this is still none of your business to concern yourself about. Whether you like his busniess activity or not, is irrelevant and a waste of time and thread space.
It's a public game, posted on a public site, but it's none of my concern... okay then. Kinda dumb, but sure.
 

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It's a public game, posted on a public site, but it's none of my concern... okay then. Kinda dumb, but sure.
Take your critisim of his business practice where it will do the most good, his discord. This dev does not come here or respond to peoples posts here. I had an idea once for some scenes I wanted to see in his game, I went to his discord and made the suggestion, he responded, and now it is part of the game. going there, and talking to him, will give you a much clearer understand of why things are what they are.
 
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Take your critisim of his business practice where it will do the most good, his discord. This dev does not come here or respond to peoples posts here. I had an idea once for some scenes I wanted to see in his game, I went to his discord and made the suggestion, he responded, and now it is part of the game. going there, and talking to him, will give you a much clearer understand of why things are what they are.
I was only having a decent discussion on this public forum. I have no intention of trying to make DC change his ways. It is not my business to manage his game the way I want. It's solely his issue, but that doesn't mean I am not allowed to criticize it.
 
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He needs to redo the code to make save files compatible, since a shit ton of people complain about it every update. Yes, it is his fault for not making it right from the start, but he has stated that he had no substantial knowledge of coding when he started.
Really adds to his "I worked in the gaming industry" talk.

and if he knows what the bottlenecks that needed to fix are, it makes no sense they take longer to make, than the original update they got.
The bottleneck remains the art and DC absolutely refuses to let anyone else touch it because he'd make less money if he sped that up and it gives him an eternal excuses to be slow and milk it.
 

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Really adds to his "I worked in the gaming industry" talk.
Because he worked in the gaming industry he has to know how to code? Especially in Python, the language Ren'Py uses?

Well, I work in the printing industry. But I couldn't operate a Heidelberg Speedmaster nor a Fujifilm Jet Press. But guess what, the printer, the man/woman working those machines I mentioned, couldn't do my job either, namely typesetting or imposition.

Who'd a thunk an entire industry could encompass different and highly specialised jobs?!
 

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I was only having a decent discussion on this public forum. I have no intention of trying to make DC change his ways. It is not my business to manage his game the way I want. It's solely his issue, but that doesn't mean I am not allowed to criticize it.
I only suggest that you ask him personnaly, instead of making criticisms based on only things you have told yourself?
 
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I only suggest that you ask him personnaly, instead of making criticisms based on only things you have told yourself?
My criticism is based on observation. I have been playing since almost the beggining, I know what I'm talking about. But sure, keep blindly defending him because he answered your discord message, oh em gee senpai noticed me. Ask him what, exactly? There was no question, I was making a statement. What the hell are you even smoking, my guy?
 

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It's more than 100 days update though. The current update is only 65% completed, and it's been well over 3 months.
Well, not really, the "secret" 17.5 update was released shortly before christmas and they took the holidays off. So apart from some minor work in november/december they started in the first week of january. That means we are basically 60-something days in.
 
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Well, not really, the "secret" 17.5 update was released shortly before christmas and they took the holidays off. So apart from some minor work in november/december they started in the first week of january. That means we are basically 60-something days in.
Yes, but that is dishonest, isn't it? I wasn't talking about when they started working. That does not matter one bit. What matters is the time between updates.
 
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Because he worked in the gaming industry he has to know how to code? Especially in Python, the language Ren'Py uses?

Well, I work in the printing industry. But I couldn't operate a Heidelberg Speedmaster nor a Fujifilm Jet Press. But guess what, the printer, the man/woman working those machines I mentioned, couldn't do my job either, namely typesetting or imposition.

Who'd a thunk an entire industry could encompass different and highly specialised jobs?!
So what your saying is you didn't learn anything even remotely related to your job while working at your job. Good to know.
 

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I'm just glad this game is still up there with somewhat regular updates, great content and increasingly quality. I actually don't care how long it takes to finish, might as well enjoy the journey rather than cut it off. Although I'm really curious to see the game that will come after SS.
 

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I feel like people on this site go out of their way to misinform when it comes to Summertime Saga. The Jenny and Diane update are ment to moved them onto the code because the old code was shit, rework their story and move the art to the rig system, and finally introduce the pregnancy system. Also DC planing to do the same with Mia, Eric, and the mom
i think you just didnt understand what he is saying. lol
 
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