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Ren'Py Abandoned Summertime Saga [v0.20.16 Pre-tech] [Kompas Productions]

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CassidyPRO

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Kurpton said:
You should watch his streams and ask questions about if the game will ever get incest content. Btw, stop making wrong accusations.
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"Wrong acusations"... lmao.. YOu really do live in a wworld of fairy tales, dont you?



"You should ask DC" lmao... DC already said he would do it.. I just dont believe him in that matter because the facts are not on his side on this.. sry.
 
CassidyPRO

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j4yj4m said:
I think both are possible. If fans can patch it back in within a reasonable amount of time, DC and his team can certainly do it as well in even less time - of course only once the game is fully done and removed from patreon. Yes, a lot will depend on the reworks but at least in for example Diane's case the amount of work that's needed to properly adapt her story is small. A few new dialogs/poses and that's it.


I'm not sure about that. Right now it's clear that SS will stay on patreon and that the whole situation won't change for a long time. He can't and won't release a crippled game which doesn't make sense, so changes to adapt the new story had to happen. He simply hasn't got a choice but to move on right now. But that doesn't mean that dialogs and a few items can't be adapted later on. I mean, he's spending a way bigger amount of time on reworks right now and he was always willing to change things if he wanted it. So I don't see why it's "impossible" for him and his team to spend ~4 to 6 weeks at some point to create the "final version".
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Not talking about changes.. im talking about stuff that would work with the non incest game and would be easier to fix afterwards..he isnt going for that.. Its pretty clear that he wont restore it.
 
E-Dog

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Genji said:
So,in the end she fuck with many guys huh?
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I dont know about how many dude. I dont follow their lives. I thought she was sexy. It was stated who she was. I looked her up. Saw a bunch of scenes available. Some were lesbian. Some werent. I recognized one dude being rocco from the previews. Thats all i can say.
 
Genji

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E-Dog said:
I dont know about how many dude. I dont follow their lives. I thought she was sexy. It was stated who she was. I looked her up. Saw a bunch of scenes available. Some were lesbian. Some werent. I recognized one dude being rocco from the previews. Thats all i can say.
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oh,ok thanks dude,im not into adult video,but thanks anyway(y)
 
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Holy Bacchus said:
Was that a digital arts degree like mine that taught Photoshop and Illustrator or was MS Paint still all the rage 20 years ago? But I'm sure you're using that 20 year old degree to create digital works these days and not just sitting in a shed with your watercolours and easel, right?

No offense to you and your friend, but digital art is different from writing a book, or painting a masterpiece, or taking photographs, or creating a sculpture. These things are indeed fixed and unchangeable once they've been done, but digital art can be easily altered since all you have to do is re-open it in a software package. A game designer such as DC doesn't have to stick with the designs and art style they had when they started because the great benefit of digital art is that it can be improved as the artists skills improve. It's not uncommon these days for digital artists to go back and "remaster" their older works for this very reason.

The idea that an artist should never change their works is outdated when living in a digital age.
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I've been working with Adobe since Photoshop 5 or 5.5, I forget which exactly.

It's not any different. You can sit there tweaking any of them til the cows come home. Look at anything Da Vinci finished, there's tons of layers underneath it showing how he kept changing things. The guy finished like 14 things his entire career. All of them are only truly done when the artist stops working on them and artist can never be done. Never heard about this, but has DC ever set a hard deadline?

And I have no problem with going back and remastering, after a product is done. This not finishing and going back and changing the artwork, is only slowing down that finishing part. That's my issue with him doing this. He can do that til forever and it is done solely for his financial gain. It doesn't help deliver what he's supposed to those who are giving him money for a final product.

Was anyone begging for redesigns?
 
DrFog

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nopper said:
I've been working with Adobe since Photoshop 5 or 5.5, I forget which exactly.

It's not any different. You can sit there tweaking any of them til the cows come home. Look at anything Da Vinci finished, there's tons of layers underneath it showing how he kept changing things. The guy finished like 14 things his entire career. All of them are only truly done when the artist stops working on them and artist can never be done. Never heard about this, but has DC ever set a hard deadline?

And I have no problem with going back and remastering, after a product is done. This not finishing and going back and changing the artwork, is only slowing down that finishing part. That's my issue with him doing this. He can do that til forever and it is done solely for his financial gain. It doesn't help deliver what he's supposed to those who are giving him money for a final product.

Was anyone begging for redesigns?
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It has nothing to do with DC not being happy about his work, and it has nothing to do with money either. Read this and give it a rest already.
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Just chiming in for a quick note : the characters are being redrawn, yes, it takes time yes, but there's some very specific reasons as to why we're doing that.

First, art quality. We want to keep the game's overall graphics standards as high as possible.

Second, game size. Don't forget that we're building a game that can be installed on mobile devices. As it stands, the game is about 800 MB heavy. Not too much by PC standards, but huge for a mobile game. And a large part of the community is playing on mobile devices.

Third, future update speed. Redrawing and remaking character poses not only reduces the overall file size, but also increases flexibility. DC no longer has to make full body poses, just arms or facial expressions. That way, future updates won't require some poses, if they can be made with existing art. The downside is that it's an investment of time. Takes longer now for future benefits.
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j4yj4m

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CassidyPRO said:
Not talking about changes.. im talking about stuff that would work with the non incest game and would be easier to fix afterwards..he isnt going for that.. Its pretty clear that he wont restore it.
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It doesn't really matter though. In the end he's got everything he needs to change what he wants. He talked about it quite a bit yesterday and said that he's thinking about adding a switch in the end so both versions could stay. The game as we know it now and one incest version for those who want it. I mean, can you give me one example of how he had to change the game that he couldn't bring the incest back? All that's needed are new lines, a bit of posing, a few art adaptations and that's it. Sure, that's still some work but everything that's a lot of work (scenes, quests, minigames, etc.) can be used as it is.
 
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Genji

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j4yj4m said:
It doesn't really matter though. In the end he's got everything he needs to change what he wants. He talked about it quite a bit yesterday and said that he's thinking about adding a switch in the end so both versions could stay. The game as we know it now and one incest version for those who want it. I mean, can you give me one example of how he had to change the game that he couldn't bring the incest back? All that's needed are new lines, a bit of posing, a few art adaptations and that's it. Sure, that's still some work but everything that's a lot of work (scenes, quests, minigames, etc.) can be used as it is.
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Wait,he said he cant put incest back??That....That is shit,i start playin this game because of the alabama thing in it:cry:
 
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Engelstein said:
Should've included Jessie Rogers in the Augmented, still makes me sad thinking about those. :(
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Oh man I'm still pissed about that. She looked awesome before.

The plastic surgeon who did that work is probably the sibling of this woman:
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j4yj4m said:
No, he confirmed again that he will bring it back the end. CassidyPRO said that it's literally impossible and I don't see how that could be the case.
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CassidyPRO is right: it's impossible.

The reason: SS's development will never end, therefore DC isn't going to bring it back in the end.
 
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