Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.4468] [Kompas Productions]

[DrFog]

I think the game's been getting less and less grounded since the Mia update, myself. When the typical "girl next door" storyline took a jetpack into parental kidnapping (tonally jarring, but sadly not unrealistic) and then full-on nun-sploitation out of the 70s. I think that should have been our warning that SS is less of a "realistic game where everyone's extra-horny for the sake of convenience," though it might flirt with that for certain characters, and more of a "trip to PornLand, the theme park where everyone is a walking fetish and the points don't matter."

Personally I don't have anything wrong with that (though I still find the Mia storyline to be super jarring), but I can understand why others might. Personally, I like it when the stories are neatly divided between "realistic" (say, Roxy) and "bizarre" (Daisy), and I'm less fond of stuff like Mia and Debbie where the realism level shifts mid-storyline. Weirdly, I have no problems walking from Roxy and straight to Daisy! I guess my brain can just shift gears no problem?

Yeah, I can agree with this. The monster girls, Diane, Mia (to some extent), Mrs. Okita as well as some other story lines are pretty far-fetched, but I feel like the game benefits more from it than it would without some sense of fantastical plot. Having Diane's milking story and Aqua's tentacle lair are nice reprieves from otherwise somewhat vanilla story lines like Debbie's, and Roxxy's.

 

[Xenephon]

Playing the Bissette path, and the Quick Mafs book is not showing up in Dexter's locker after I speak to him. Is there a workaround for this?

 

[CassidyPRO]

DC said once they finished the game, they will bring back to incest dialog and everything. For those who are into incest has to wait.

lol and Do you believe in that?

The sctructure of the dialogue is COMPLETLY different for it. Things that could work for the non incest thing but would make it easier for them to "fix" the game adding back the incest later are NOT being implemented lol.

DC wont bother with it. dont fool yourselfs. XD

 

[CassidyPRO]

Indeed, i was looking forward to her update, but since the Patreon shitstorm the original 0.16 (which should have been her update) got to Roxxy and the Aunt update removed more than improve it, i'm hesitant into trying her update, especially if it's going to be written as if she wasn't MC's sister her scenes are not going to be the same.
Especially if she's (from what i've understood) going to have some of her scenes removed, and i would rather have her scenes improved on (like the mom's 0.14.5 update) and add new scenes just like the mom, maybe a missionary on bed\ tittyfuck or bj\hj\69 or improve her request scenes to add progression to add more than groping her boobs for 500 $, when she lets us pound her for free in the shower\bed\couch\camshow.

But it's her love confession the thing i looked forward the most.

I agree... I kinda lost interest because of all those things.

 

[obiwan]

lol and Do you believe in that?

The sctructure of the dialogue is COMPLETLY different for it. Things that could work for the non incest thing but would make it easier for them to "fix" the game adding back the incest later are NOT being implemented lol.

DC wont bother with it. dont fool yourselfs. XD

What he said. Pretty sure DC won't put back thr incest in the game. Our only hope are fan patches for that

 

[DrFog]

lol and Do you believe in that?

The sctructure of the dialogue is COMPLETLY different for it. Things that could work for the non incest thing but would make it easier for them to "fix" the game adding back the incest later are NOT being implemented lol.

DC wont bother with it. dont fool yourselfs. XD

What he said. Pretty sure DC won't put back thr incest in the game. Our only hope are fan patches for that

Idk, it really wouldn't take that much effort to change it. Just certain dialog would need to be fixed, most if not all of the artwork is fine the way it is. Seeing as how DC has already promised this and a good portion of his patron base is expecting it, I doubt he'll forget about it, especially if he decides to make another game after SS. In fact, if there was a good enough incest patch out for it by the time of completion, they could just integrate that and be done with it. Idk, maybe you guys are right and he'll just drop the ball on us like that, but I really doubt it.

 

[CassidyPRO]

Idk, it really wouldn't take that much effort to change it. Just certain dialog would need to be fixed, most if not all of the artwork is fine the way it is. Seeing as how DC has already promised this and a good portion of his patron base is expecting it, I doubt he'll forget about it, especially if he decides to make another game after SS. In fact, if there was a good enough incest patch out for it by the time of completion, they could just integrate that and be done with it. Idk, maybe you guys are right and he'll just drop the ball on us like that, but I really doubt it.

Its about management and dev processes.. If you intend to do something like that, there is NO REASON to do the new content in a way that will make it much more difficult to restore the old stuff.

Dc is experienced in that field.. If he is not doing it, its because he wont restore it.

 

[DrFog]

If you intend to do something like that, there is NO REASON to do the new content in a way that will make it much more difficult to restore the old stuff.

He redid the family scenes to have them make more sense while the game is in development. Yeah, it's a questionable move for sure, but even so, it really wouldn't be that hard to change back to true incest. The story lines may have changed some, but not so drastically that it would be that hard to restore.

 

[j4yj4m]

What he said. Pretty sure DC won't put back thr incest in the game. Our only hope are fan patches for that

I think both are possible. If fans can patch it back in within a reasonable amount of time, DC and his team can certainly do it as well in even less time - of course only once the game is fully done and removed from patreon. Yes, a lot will depend on the reworks but at least in for example Diane's case the amount of work that's needed to properly adapt her story is small. A few new dialogs/poses and that's it.

Its about management and dev processes.. If you intend to do something like that, there is NO REASON to do the new content in a way that will make it much more difficult to restore the old stuff.

Dc is experienced in that field.. If he is not doing it, its because he wont restore it.

I'm not sure about that. Right now it's clear that SS will stay on patreon and that the whole situation won't change for a long time. He can't and won't release a crippled game which doesn't make sense, so changes to adapt the new story had to happen. He simply hasn't got a choice but to move on right now. But that doesn't mean that dialogs and a few items can't be adapted later on. I mean, he's spending a way bigger amount of time on reworks right now and he was always willing to change things if he wanted it. So I don't see why it's "impossible" for him and his team to spend ~4 to 6 weeks at some point to create the "final version".

 

[CptRexx]

lol and Do you believe in that?

The sctructure of the dialogue is COMPLETLY different for it. Things that could work for the non incest thing but would make it easier for them to "fix" the game adding back the incest later are NOT being implemented lol.

DC wont bother with it. dont fool yourselfs. XD

You should watch his streams and ask questions about if the game will ever get incest content. Btw, stop making wrong accusations.

 

[Genji]

You should watch his streams and ask questions about if the game will ever get incest content. Btw, stop making wrong accusations.

indeed,you can just ask him

 

[Dogeek]

Just chiming in for a quick note : the characters are being redrawn, yes, it takes time yes, but there's some very specific reasons as to why we're doing that.

First, art quality. We want to keep the game's overall graphics standards as high as possible.

Second, game size. Don't forget that we're building a game that can be installed on mobile devices. As it stands, the game is about 800 MB heavy. Not too much by PC standards, but huge for a mobile game. And a large part of the community is playing on mobile devices.

Third, future update speed. Redrawing and remaking character poses not only reduces the overall file size, but also increases flexibility. DC no longer has to make full body poses, just arms or facial expressions. That way, future updates won't require some poses, if they can be made with existing art. The downside is that it's an investment of time. Takes longer now for future benefits.

 

[Genji]

Just chiming in for a quick note : the characters are being redrawn, yes, it takes time yes, but there's some very specific reasons as to why we're doing that.

First, art quality. We want to keep the game's overall graphics standards as high as possible.

Second, game size. Don't forget that we're building a game that can be installed on mobile devices. As it stands, the game is about 800 MB heavy. Not too much by PC standards, but huge for a mobile game. And a large part of the community is playing on mobile devices.

Third, future update speed. Redrawing and remaking character poses not only reduces the overall file size, but also increases flexibility. DC no longer has to make full body poses, just arms or facial expressions. That way, future updates won't require some poses, if they can be made with existing art. The downside is that it's an investment of time. Takes longer now for future benefits.

it is really true DC into pregnant stuff?

 

[Bruce_Wayne18]

Just chiming in for a quick note : the characters are being redrawn, yes, it takes time yes, but there's some very specific reasons as to why we're doing that.

First, art quality. We want to keep the game's overall graphics standards as high as possible.

Second, game size. Don't forget that we're building a game that can be installed on mobile devices. As it stands, the game is about 800 MB heavy. Not too much by PC standards, but huge for a mobile game. And a large part of the community is playing on mobile devices.

Third, future update speed. Redrawing and remaking character poses not only reduces the overall file size, but also increases flexibility. DC no longer has to make full body poses, just arms or facial expressions. That way, future updates won't require some poses, if they can be made with existing art. The downside is that it's an investment of time. Takes longer now for future benefits.

Is incest coming back to the game? I think that's what most people are worried about. I know DC said yes because I asked him about it on stream, but hearing it from you would put a lot of people's minds at ease, including my own

 

[Trapezio]

Just chiming in for a quick note : the characters are being redrawn, yes, it takes time yes, but there's some very specific reasons as to why we're doing that.

First, art quality. We want to keep the game's overall graphics standards as high as possible.

Second, game size. Don't forget that we're building a game that can be installed on mobile devices. As it stands, the game is about 800 MB heavy. Not too much by PC standards, but huge for a mobile game. And a large part of the community is playing on mobile devices.

Third, future update speed. Redrawing and remaking character poses not only reduces the overall file size, but also increases flexibility. DC no longer has to make full body poses, just arms or facial expressions. That way, future updates won't require some poses, if they can be made with existing art. The downside is that it's an investment of time. Takes longer now for future benefits.

Fine, but I think you should realize that Time is your worst enemy.

No one REALLY needs Summertime Saga: we will move on to something else because life goes on, you know. Meanwhile, there are TONS of lewd/porn games we can download HERE and play.

To put it bluntly, dude,

"So long, and thanks for all the fish": it was fun while it lasted.

 

[Glorious Cat]

And a large part of the community is playing on mobile devices.

Really ?
Out of curiosity, can you share some numbers (if you have some) ? Like x% on windows, x% mac, x% mobile etc.. ?
And those numbers came from the download count ?

 

[Hero1]

No one REALLY needs Summertime Saga: we will move on to something else because life goes on, you know. Meanwhile, there are TONS of lewd/porn games we can download HERE and play.

While it is true that no one needs Summertime Saga, everybody moaning about the speed of the development time clearly WANTS it. Otherwise they wouldn't complain about the time between updates.
Somebody that doesn't care or has moved on is not giving input on how to improve what is being done wrong (in their minds). What would be the point?

 

[Trapezio]

While it is true that no one needs Summertime Saga, everybody moaning about the speed of the development time clearly WANTS it. Otherwise they wouldn't complain about the time between updates.
Somebody that doesn't care or has moved on is not giving input on how to improve what is being done wrong (in their minds). What would be the point?

This is just idle chatting. People come and go, then they get sick and move on to something else.

 

[j4yj4m]

This is just idle chatting. People come and go, then they get sick and move on to something else.

That's pretty normal though and happens to every game. The advantage of SS in that regard is simply its top 5 spot on patreon, no. 1 spot for NSFW games on patreon and the fact that most people who play NSFW games have heard of it. If somebody is looking for any NSFW game they'll find SS at some point, which is quite a difference compared to most smaller games. So it's not like the game is solely dependend on one small userbase - people come and go while others will return at some point.

 

[Hero1]

People come and go, then they get sick and move on to something else.

And if the amount of pages in this thread is any indication, they'll eventually come back.