As Hones said, rooms are for main characters, not side characters. Giving Lucia a room would mean I would have to make her a room. All rooms are made specifically for the character's in them.
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I really wish the punch option had worked with that slave owner. When I finally figured out how to invite Lin to sleep in my bed at night I picked just sleep (as that slave owner event had just happened), is the lewd option meant to be a one off thing because now it doesn't appear we just go straight to sleep every time.
Edit - And as your here thanks for making a great game Runey.
Edit - And as your here thanks for making a great game Runey.
- Aug 10, 2018
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Yes the lewd option with Lin seems to be just a onetime thing, but sometimes she sleeps in her leaf outfit and stuff which is adorable, I wish there were other outfits she could wear to bed.
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Main characters are what I meant by "Paying Guests" I was not suggesting it was a permanent assignment of a room
Sure sounds good to me. But I thought there might be a prehistory that goes a little deeper, I would deepen the whole story and divide it up like you do in thrillers and dramas.
If you only have Ellen telling something now, the whole thing seems like, how am I supposed to say that: "Boring". That's why I had suggested that you split it up and for example the other characters in the discovery of the prehistory (legend) of Harem Hotel. But as I said, I leave that to you.
Well, that was just a fixed idea to justify the "success" with the main character with the women.
Honestly to offer that as a reason is abundant ... *PIEP*. Honestly, I mean it's a story (an erotic story) but don't you think it's a bit flat? So the character doesn't exactly look like a Womanizer. Story Technically he likes to say the right things and the girls might be attracted to him but don't you think that there is no girl who would just tolerate it all? So this part of the story I would definitely reconsider.
Therefore I came at least from the logical view on another solution .. how one can read ideas technically in my preceding post.
Hmm, okay. Superficially I only say OK. But still nothing is explained. Nice that there are the androids and that they are considered as a substitute for elves because they can do more and also longer but well... I find it a bit flat. I miss the reason why this model of Android is in this hotel. Why this model carries this AI in herself and behaves like this. I lack the whole structure concerning this character.
As I said before, even if it was considered a gift, I lack the structure of the character.
Oh and these are the reasons why there must be no competition? Both in the Android workshop and in the hotel industry? Really now?
So I think these are the reasons why someone has to expect competition. Money rules the world. It doesn't matter if it's about androids, if it's cheap, if it comes from the elves or if it's a hotel. There are always envious people who want to try to make as much profit as possible. Just that is also a good 2 hanger for a game. To captivate the players with a next to main story. There would fit again the bar girl well and/or the sister and much more. Furthermore you can hide the main story if it's not very good. To build up suspense this is especially well suited in the interaction with the grandfather, the story of the hotel etc. and also makes for some logic. After all, everything has to be paid for, money also plays a role.
I designed this side story as an example! Nothing more than an example how to further invent the already existing stories.
Anyway, even if Lucia was still a virgin, that doesn't mean that your father couldn't have a relationship... There is still oral and anal and much more without losing virginity.
Besides, the father is gone now that doesn't mean that the father is always gone. The father to Kali, right at the beginning of the story, that she must stay another year in the hotel, so the contact must still exist.
Just to spin that once more: Just because they haven't told the dark side of their lives yet doesn't mean they don't exist.
That was now an example of how you could tell the story of Kali and Lucia and get a new turning point in and build tension.
In every good story there are turning points... The order for movies and novels and games is the same:
Start -> Introduction and announcement of the first characters
Structure -> The first structure of the story is built.
1st turning point -> An event that influences the story. For example something happens and the main character goes on his journey.
2nd turning point -> Often an event that influences history and thus completely rebuilds it. For example someone dies or something happens or someone tells something. From enemy becomes friend from friend becomes enemy.
3. finale announces itself -> danger of life. Held manages to fulfill his mission. (But is it also fulfilled?) Is something still possible happening? Is someone still dying?
4. end hero returns home or? End?
This quite quite quite rough structure applies to all stories.
In my opinion you are just at the 2nd turning point.
As I said, I don't want to tell you anything or anything ... I just want to help you that everything makes more sense.
That's why my example also applies to all other characters. Can't you do something about the story? Like I said, I write stories.
Just to say that again clearly .. I try not to force anything on you I just try to give the whole something more story, more depth and not only superficial fuck around.
Shoulder shrug. OK I leave it at that for now. I think you already understand so approximately what I mean.
- Aug 10, 2018
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The android in the hotel was built by the grandfather because he wanted the perfect maid, there are a few scenes in the game explaining her origin and the reason she acts the way she does is because of errors in her a.i, you had the whole thing with Kali trying to fix it etc...
Yes, I'm aware of that. Even if the character structure is so present I still find that the icing on the cake is missing. For me this character simply represents a better F..k machine. At least as it is at the moment. A F..k machine that can cook and clean ... and nothing else... in my eyes is the waste of resources. There is a lot of potential in it. As in all characters...
That post was huge, haha. It's hard to keep track of what was said. I'll try my best to respond to it.
All the girls have their reason for liking MC. Ashley's is unknown and will be explained in v0.5 and v0.6. Lin likes MC because he's one of the nicest Master's she ever had, and through the story, they grew together. Kali likes MC because Kali has always pushed people away, but MC didn't give up. There are always reasons as to why each girl becomes attracted to MC. When I say "MC says the right things" I don't mean he's just charismatic or something, all these girls seem to have an MC shaped hole in their hearts. Again, I don't mean to say MC is just perfect for everyone. I don't want to have to explain in depth every reason the girls like MC, that's explained in the story.
Why does there need to be an epic story behind why Androids exist? They're robots meant to do what humans don't want to. And you can have sex with them whenever you'd like. They don't have rights, they aren't conscious, and you don't have to pay them. Elves cost money to feed, and they need to be paid a wage now. Civilization is changing because of the rights Elves were given. People voted for Elvish rights, but those who owned Elves voted against it. Now the people who abused Elves can't anymore, so they're investing into Androids. Your Android was build with a Model-1 Framework by your grandfather, he made it custom for him. In doing so, he messed up and created life.
I didn't mean to say there was no competition. In any case, the game takes place in the hotel, not the world it exists in. This nation is growing, it has a lot of land to build upon. There's not much competition because there doesn't have to be. It's said that the place the Hotel is at, it's not rural, and it's not in the city, it's a nice middle ground. In the city, perhaps there would be more competition. Hotels and apartments are very profitible because of everyone coming it, but there aren't enough hotels and apartments to warrant competition. Like I said, this is a growing nation. But now I'm talking about things that aren't canonically in game.
Every character goes through an arc, Ashley is going through one in v0.5, it started in v0.4, and will likely end in v0.6, Android's arc was wanting to become perfect and realizing perfection isn't what she wants at all. I don't mean to say this will be their only arc, but it's their current arc.
This has made me wonder if you've even played through the characters stories. She has the abilities to be an amazing fuck machine, but is shy, and she's conflicted with it. Everything she knows is telling her she needs to obey, but she doesn't want to. Eventually she starts liking MC due to her trying to understand herself, and they're able to have some good sex.
I really don't want to sit here and explain everyone's story in complete detail, that's in game. Some questions you've asked are fair, like the like of competition. But a lot of the questions you've asked lead me to believe you haven't played through the character's stories. It sounds to me like you started, but then stopped.
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Sorry but I fail to see your point you asked
Answer is She is there because she was built there to be a perfect maidSion.Savior said:
Answer is because of an error causing her shy quirky personaSion.Savior said:
This game is still in development, Just like all the other main cast Android will have a character arc, here own story where maybe she will grow as an individual, Currently she acts how she is meant to as an android that has errors causing her to have that quirky shy personalty.Sion.Savior said:
After reading this i want answer first to this!!
In short! I played the Story from Start to finsih! Even the Side stories. That's why I think so much about it.
I will of course answer everything else also still fals I have something to say to it ... but that was important to me already now to say.
Here's the rest I promised you:
I don't care about the android himself. It's about the general story. I'm of the opinion that the characters lack the final touch. I only chose some characters to explain my ideas with a few examples. Everything is basically related to all characters and not only to single ones like Kali or the androids. That's why I always mention that it applies to all of them. The androids were only medium to the purpose to make clear what I am missing.
Besides, I didn't talk about any epic story ... all I rudimentarily hinted at are fundamental things. Say fundamental in a story. That's why I take the corresponding examples from the story and try to clarify what's missing. As I said, this is not about the individual as such, but about the whole narrative structure.
Be that as it may. Whether you believe me or not I played the whole game doesn't matter anyway. It's just a rudimentary matter that certain things are superficial so far! That's all I want to suggest. I have only given examples to deepen the whole thing a bit like in a novel.
As I said before, I write novels.
Nevertheless I think it is a good story with a lot of potential. Since I want this potential to be used! That's why I put a lot of effort into making my views clear.
I hope that it will become more understandable that I don't hang on single things but refer to everything in a rudimentary way. So all character stories. All background stories. All main stories etc. I hope this makes sense for you now.
I can't explain it any better. Unfortunately my English doesn't allow that. I am native German and not English.
- Oct 5, 2017
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I'm not sure I understand. If you replace instances of [name] in Ash's dialog with [ash.mcname], how does that change what (for example) Maria calls you? She would use [maria.mcname] in her dialog.
I don't get that either. Why would you need a version of the event where she calls you [name]? Just start [ash.mcname] as equal to [name], just like you'd start [ash.name] to be equal to "Ashley".
I'm having trouble answering questions at the moment, I'm barely awake right now, haha.
Maybe that's possible? I would have to replace all the instances of [name] with something else, which would take time, but not so much that I would never do it. So, maybe? I'll have to think on that more. But, giving the girls a pet name is definitely doable.
Alright, I appreciate the questions and everything, but I feel as most of these things are said in game. Some are subtle and they usually don't stick around too long. They speak of the world they live in, but this game isn't about the world, it's about the hotel. Basically, this is a microscope on the paper. You're only looking at one page as opposed to the book.
I'm well aware of that. But I see your story from the writer's point of view. Therefore the suggestions.
But. It's your story. I don't interfere. I can only tell you what is missing and exactly that and nothing more I do.
- Jun 24, 2018
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Man this game is so great. I love it, props to the developer for being so active and willing to interact with fans. Whenever i am torn on what game to support next, little things like that make that the decision easy for me.
Keep up the good work, your game is great.
Aww, that's a shame, well at least we have Violet from Dreamscape and Maria's Succubi outfit.
Keep up the good work, your game is great.
Admittedly, I have no knowledge or experience with programming so I am probably missing something obvious or just totally off base. That said...
At the beginning of the game when you name the MC, could you have it set multiple states? As in could it dictate [name] and [petnamefromash] and [petnamefromkali] and [petnamefromlin] and so on and so forth all at one time. So the girls would all start calling you "MC name" because that is what was set as their "pet name", but later on they all offer you the chance to change that for their individual setting? I mean, you would have to go back through and change ALL of those places in the code and you have a LOT of text. I am not asking you to do it. I just saw the problem you posted and think it might be a viable way to accomplish the individual pet names.
Potential side bonus: this could allow some light-hearted teasing between the girls or even towards MC. For instance, Maria could overhear Kali talking to you at one point and then later on use that name when talking with you both: "I'm sure he would love to take us to the beach. Isn't that right, [petnamefromkali]?" Kali would become flustered and embarrassed and deny it and run away as she does.
Anyway, just a thought. Not sure if it actually would work or not.
Yes, I could do that, but the issue is, I would have to rename all of the [name] instances to something else, which would take too much time and is not something I would want to do. Especially since I'd have to find when Maria said [name], versus when Kali said [name].
There are exactly 996 instances of [name] currently. That's a lot of rummaging.
That is about what I expected. There are certainly higher priority things to be working on. Not only would you need to find each one and figure out the basic context, but figuring out which ones were appropriate for the pet name as opposed to the standard name and I am guessing it would cause new issues to arise that would need to be fixed and addressed, even if it was a simple matter of typos or whatever.
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Well sure, it would take some time to do manually, but I'd be surprised if you couldn't change them all at once with a regex. I don't program in Ren'Py specifically, so I don't know the syntax you'd have to use, but I'd expect it to be possible.
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I don't think that would work, yes you could change all instances of [name] in one, but that's not what you would want to do you need to go through them so you can understand who is using [name], in what context [name] is being used and if that particular instance would work being changed to [apetname].