MSNlover95

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It is not necessary, the dev will do it according to the commitments he punctually respects with financiers and supporters.
but them the $3 tiers on it the patreons and subscribestars supposed to getting the updates 4 days ago?? still not receiving.. :unsure:
 

Fascorslolen

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In the first part of the game when Stefany drives her husband home from work she states Arnold used to come over the old house alot and keep her company whilst the husband was at work, she was a nurse at the time and had to give the job up when she moved.

She then actually suggests sucking Arnold's cock.

Arnold showed up early to the house and she displayed alot of affection for him and his face was in her boobs.

He was very eager with her and she was wanking him alot whilst helping him pee.

The game will never outright say it but you wouldn't be that surprised.

Taking her dress off in the toilet at the movies surprised Arnold and he looked straight at her husband, he potentially thought we've not done this before in front of him, does he know ?.

Also there's the scene where Stefany masturbates on Arnold and when she squirts, she says to him I've finally squirted on you, implying she's masturbated before for him.

I think Arnold doesn't know the husband watches through the keyhole, the scene where Stefany whispers to hubby about the faux bj, he believed she performed on Arnold for example.
Your reasoning is very curable but in the game Stefany never betrayed Oliver
 
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Public wait long time, Similar Content every update, No hype feeling (or burning desire like before). that is why i believe excitement/enjoyment is fading away with this project. looking forward to next project from him.
 

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even though this game has the netorare tag it really shouldn't. the creator has said on multiple occasions this game will never have ntr in it . maybe netorase at best. it is a swinging game where they both just bang whoever whenever they feel like it. the netorare tag needs to be taken off and the swinging tag should be added. the game started out netorare but quickly changed and now is simply an all out bangfest whenever she gets around any man with a functioning tool and her husband is her biggest cheerleader . i will say if it did go the netorare route like beginning it would be much better game but still a good game just being mis-represented as ntr when it is a swinging game that's all
Nah, the tag is correct and needs to stay.

Why? Because Stefany very much did NTR to Oliver back when she was pushing him as hard as she could co she could suck and fuck Arnold any time she wished. NTR is when a partner of the person affected willingly does acts that they know will cause emotional impact and distress on their partner. Stefany did this at least twice in the beginning; 1) when she hid what she was doing but very clearly appeared (did) a BJ on Arnold in the tub when washing him. 2) When Oliver was looking through the keyhole Stefany deliberately went well beyond what they agreed she would do when she and Oliver talked about it before, such as (depending on who you ask( either faking, or having full blown fucking with Arnold well before they said it was ok.

Now some will downplay what Stefany did, saying that it was all agreed on beforehand but it wasn't. The supposedly faux fucking scene for example, and I say faux (fake) because Oliver himself *knows* she is really fucking Arnold although he doesn't want to admit to himself that she is. He alas, like a coward, refuses to actually confirm with her if she did or not after the fact. But as written in the story she was expressing exactly the same sounds and body movements that she does when fucked so it was clear Arnold was fucking her, unprotected, well before their 'approved' episode when they come back from the boss.

Basically the NTR here is that Stefany was deliberately doing things with Arnold, including BJ and sex, before they agreed she could go that far, for the simple purpose to hurt Oliver and make him go beyond his comfort zone so he would ultimately agree to her wishes to fuck anyone she wants. If you want to say "but Oliver wanted it!" I say go back and actually read the story of what Oliver is saying to himself and the pain he felt in his chest at seeing the (supposedly) fake fucking she was doing. He very much was in shock and pain that she did that without approval or asking, and thay pretty much broke whatever resistance he had to her fucking and she took the full reigns of the relationship at that time and the story has never looked back.

Stefany is really the MC of the story, until the dev tried to retcon in the last few releases and have it more balanced, but she very much did NTR against her supposedly loved husband, to get to a place where she wanted to be. The dev may write more comments form her recently that she loves Oliver and is only doing things for him, but really she's just grooming him and keeping him pacified so he doesn't realize what's going on and reject it. Same thing with her getting more women for him and 'allowing' him to have more sexual relations. She's controlling the show and is not doing NTR now because she doesn't need to, Oliver is broken and she can do what she wants because he accts her as a slut and likes it, when that wasn't at all what he wanted in the beginning when they talked about it. It was to be very controlled and only when they both agreed to a couples or swapping/swinging idea.

So the tag fits and was correctly applied and should stay.
 

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Nah, the tag is correct and needs to stay.

Why? Because Stefany very much did NTR to Oliver back when she was pushing him as hard as she could co she could suck and fuck Arnold any time she wished. NTR is when a partner of the person affected willingly does acts that they know will cause emotional impact and distress on their partner. Stefany did this at least twice in the beginning; 1) when she hid what she was doing but very clearly appeared (did) a BJ on Arnold in the tub when washing him. 2) When Oliver was looking through the keyhole Stefany deliberately went well beyond what they agreed she would do when she and Oliver talked about it before, such as (depending on who you ask( either faking, or having full blown fucking with Arnold well before they said it was ok.

Now some will downplay what Stefany did, saying that it was all agreed on beforehand but it wasn't. The supposedly faux fucking scene for example, and I say faux (fake) because Oliver himself *knows* she is really fucking Arnold although he doesn't want to admit to himself that she is. He alas, like a coward, refuses to actually confirm with her if she did or not after the fact. But as written in the story she was expressing exactly the same sounds and body movements that she does when fucked so it was clear Arnold was fucking her, unprotected, well before their 'approved' episode when they come back from the boss.

Basically the NTR here is that Stefany was deliberately doing things with Arnold, including BJ and sex, before they agreed she could go that far, for the simple purpose to hurt Oliver and make him go beyond his comfort zone so he would ultimately agree to her wishes to fuck anyone she wants. If you want to say "but Oliver wanted it!" I say go back and actually read the story of what Oliver is saying to himself and the pain he felt in his chest at seeing the (supposedly) fake fucking she was doing. He very much was in shock and pain that she did that without approval or asking, and thay pretty much broke whatever resistance he had to her fucking and she took the full reigns of the relationship at that time and the story has never looked back.

Stefany is really the MC of the story, until the dev tried to retcon in the last few releases and have it more balanced, but she very much did NTR against her supposedly loved husband, to get to a place where she wanted to be. The dev may write more comments form her recently that she loves Oliver and is only doing things for him, but really she's just grooming him and keeping him pacified so he doesn't realize what's going on and reject it. Same thing with her getting more women for him and 'allowing' him to have more sexual relations. She's controlling the show and is not doing NTR now because she doesn't need to, Oliver is broken and she can do what she wants because he accts her as a slut and likes it, when that wasn't at all what he wanted in the beginning when they talked about it. It was to be very controlled and only when they both agreed to a couples or swapping/swinging idea.

So the tag fits and was correctly applied and should stay.
New to the thread . Feels really bad for Oliver man after reading ur comment . I thought this will be like girlfriend unfettered where both mc and gf are swinging and having fun . Sigh let's see how the game is anyways .
 
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Nah, the tag is correct and needs to stay.

Why? Because Stefany very much did NTR to Oliver back when she was pushing him as hard as she could co she could suck and fuck Arnold any time she wished. NTR is when a partner of the person affected willingly does acts that they know will cause emotional impact and distress on their partner.
That is not what NTR means. Your monthly annual post of being incorrect about something never fails.
The term NTR /Netorare come from Japan and it occurs when a character's partner is stolen, and or taken. Whether the partner does so willingly is irrelevant. You can read Japanese Manga, or Korean Manhwa and get examples first hand on the NTR genre. I'll give an example, "Everything's Agreed" is a Korean manhwa that has Netorare, Netori, and Netorase all in the same webtoon. One of the character's girl is tied to a bed after being kidnapped and has sex forced on her. The MC doesn't see it. The woman isn't a willing participant, yet she's being "taken" by another man all the same. That's an example of Netorare. Now, with that said, a cheating partner can be seen as Netorase OR Netorare depending on the dynamics on the relationship. Going back to the manhwa I mentioned, the 2nd MC's has a Netorase fetish that he didn't previously know about, aka he's a cuck. As his girl is being forced to have sex he's actually turned on by it, such as Oliver does when he watches Stephany in this VN. The girl gets off being fucked by strangers while blindfolded, knowing her man is watching it and getting off. Eventually it goes from Netorase into Netorare as she realizes she enjoys it even without her man being present. I type this in an attempt to clarify for those that may read you constant misinformation about what happens in this game.

Stephanie and Oliver are both learning and pushing each other to test the limits of what they enjoy, and what could eventually end up being too much. For those that don't hold down CTRL and actually read their convos, nothing happens without permission. They have talks about pushing the other with the knowledge that the other can put a stop to anything at any time if they are uncomfortable. K4soft has placed situations where Steph didn't know what to do and was waiting for Oliver to stop thing from progressing, but he didn't. Steph was visibly uncomfortable but didn't stop because she thought it was what Oliver wanted, and they talked about it later. Just an example of the fact that they are still learning, as things in that particular situation could have ended badly if Steph allowed herself to go too far thinking it's what Oliver wanted. Likewise that would have meant Steph would have been in an unwanted sexual act thinking it was what Oliver wanted her to do, as her main goal is getting Oliver off via his cuck fetish, while obviously enjoying herself while doing so. Their relationship is 100% Netorase and has never dipped into Netorare at any point. Last, Oliver has given Steph permission to sleep with Arnold even when he's not around, because he wants to come home and catch them in the act. Steph could have had sex with Arnold at any point and yet to do so.

I hope that clears thing up for any newer players that are on the fence about the content within the game. Download and enjoy if you are looking for Netorase/ sharing/swinging/ cuck content. If you are looking for a cheating wife, hardNTR/ Netorare, it's not in this game.
Sorry for the wall of text!
 
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That is not what NTR means. You're monthly annual post of being incorrect about something never fails.
The term NTR /Netorare come from Japan and it occurs when a character's partner is stolen, and or taken. Whether the partner does so willingly is irrelevant. You can read Japanese Manga, or Korean Manhwa and get examples first hand on the NTR genre. I'll give an example, "Everything's Agreed" is a Korean manhwa that has Netorare, Netori, and Netorase all in the same webtoon. One of the character's girl is tied to a bed after being kidnapped and has sex forced on her. The MC doesn't see it. The woman isn't a willing participant, yet she's being "taken" by another man all the same. That's an example of Netorare. Now, with that said, a cheating partner can be seen as Netorase OR Netorare depending on the dynamics on the relationship. Going back to the manhwa I mentioned, the 2nd MC's has a Netorase fetish that he didn't previously know about, aka he's a cuck. As his girl is being forced to have sex he's actually turned on by it, such as Oliver does when he watches Stephany in this VN. The girl gets off being fucked by strangers while blindfolded, knowing her man is watching it and getting off. Eventually it goes from Netorase into Netorare as she realizes she enjoys it even without her man being present. I type this in an attempt to clarify for those that may read you constant misinformation about what happens in this game.

Stephanie and Oliver are both learning and pushing each other to test the limits of what they enjoy, and what could eventually end up being too much. For those that don't hold down CTRL and actually read their convos, nothing happens without permission. They have talks about pushing the other with the knowledge that the other can put a stop to anything at any time if they are uncomfortable. K4soft has placed situations where Steph didn't know what to do and was waiting for Oliver to stop thing from progressing, but he didn't. Steph was visibly uncomfortable but didn't stop because she thought it was what Oliver wanted, and they talked about it later. Just an example of the fact that they are still learning, as things in that particular situation could have ended badly if Steph allowed herself to go too far thinking it's what Oliver wanted. Likewise that would have meant Steph would have been in an unwanted sexual act thinking it was what Oliver wanted her to do, as her main goal is getting Oliver off via his cuck fetish, while obviously enjoying herself while doing so. Their relationship is 100% Netorase and has never dipped into Netorare at any point. Last, Oliver has given Steph permission to sleep with Arnold even when he's not around, because he wants to come home and catch them in the act. Steph could have had sex with Arnold at any point and yet to do so.

I hope that clears thing up for any newer players that are on the fence about the content within the game. Download and enjoy if you are looking for Netorase/ sharing/swinging/ cuck content. If you are looking for a cheating wife, hardNTR/ Netorare, it's not in this game.
Sorry for the wall of text!
Then there’s other games that have NTR (netori) in it (when your character has sex with a married woman) but they don’t even use that tag, they just use cheating
 

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Then there’s other games that have NTR (netori) in it (when your character has sex with a married woman) but they don’t even use that tag, they just use cheating
The truth is that all the variants of NTR that there are always confuse me a little because, for example, in cuckold there are only two Alpha-cuck and Beta-cuck, am I the only one who experiences this?:unsure:
 

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The truth is that all the variants of NTR that there are always confuse me a little because, for example, in cuckold there are only two Alpha-cuck and Beta-cuck, am I the only one who experiences this?:unsure:
There is no reason to be confused, ask yourself a question: are you interested in what you are interacting with?
Only two choices: yes or no which in terms of action respectively means: I continue to follow it or I stop being interested in it.
There is nothing left to comment on.
 

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I enjoy this game a lot and I know that this is an one-man project,
but it's sad that there are no choices whatsoever in the last three updates. :cry:
He could have done those updates as a pdf file...
 
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There is no reason to be confused, ask yourself a question: are you interested in what you are interacting with?
Only two choices: yes or no which in terms of action respectively means: I continue to follow it or I stop being interested in it.
There is nothing left to comment on.
I understand that it seems that you don't know much about the subject either and you are giving me an empty answer to my question about the NTR variants, thank you anyway "Peace":censored:
 

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I understand that it seems that you don't know much about the subject either and you are giving me an empty answer to my question about the NTR variants, thank you anyway "Peace":censored:
If you are busy with some type of exam I can give you paid lessons.
 
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