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SortaLewd

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thought of checking in on this game after 2-3 years of not paying attention to it...formerly fallen doll?
reading through the last few pages of comments here...it seems this game is something else entirely now..

out of curiosity in case i misunderstood some stuff in those comments...
is it only online now?
Yep, Helius added Denuvo and made all progress server-side so it's fully online only now.

is it pay2progress now? (like irl money spending to get anything)
Helius opted for a gacha gameplay loop, so it's more like pay to skip the grind I guess, and like most gacha games, if you aren't spending extra money then the grind is annoying.

is it outside of steam playable? (official not cracked) since my country banned porngames on steam i cant access or even look at those sites anymore and already owned porngames also gone -.- imagine being 32 years old and not being allowed to play/buy what you want to play/buy...
No, you can only access it by pledging on Patreon which gives you a key to the closed beta on Steam.


does this have anything at all in common with fallen doll anymore?
would be great if someone that actually owns the official version or knows the actual answer to these questions could answer (y)
Not really. The female character and the strip club map from the original Fallen Doll is still there, but other than that, no. It shifted from a single-player porn game to an online only multiplayer porn game with gacha mechanics.
 

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is it only online now?
yes (there is a very old cracked version available somewhere here)

is it pay2progress now? (like irl money spending to get anything)
yes it's basically a gacha game now

is it outside of steam playable? (official not cracked) since my country banned porngames on steam i cant access or even look at those sites anymore and already owned porngames also gone -.- imagine being 32 years old and not being allowed to play/buy what you want to play/buy...
That sucks. I believe it's only on steam and online only.

does this have anything at all in common with fallen doll anymore?
sadly the answer is not really

Not everything is bad... there are some decent animations, characters, costumes, fairly detailed locations, lots of potential. But it's just too annoying to play it currently and the monetization and grind is so obvious and unfun. I was an early supporter but wouldn't recommend paying for it anymore. They went in the wrong direction with this one.

I recommend Last Hope if you haven't tried it yet.
thanks for the answer, just the steam part alone is enough for me to not support obviously...
but it being a gacha game now...yikes
 
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Yep, Helius added Denuvo and made all progress server-side so it's fully online only now.



Helius opted for a gacha gameplay loop, so it's more like pay to skip the grind I guess, and like most gacha games, if you aren't spending extra money then the grind is annoying.



No, you can only access it by pledging on Patreon which gives you a key to the closed beta on Steam.




Not really. The female character and the strip club map from the original Fallen Doll is still there, but other than that, no. It shifted from a single-player porn game to an online only multiplayer porn game with gacha mechanics.
thanks to you as well..

guess i will just forget about this game and maybe check back in a year if its cracked
 
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where are all the old heads gone? a couple of months ago this thread was fun and full of angry people.

now this is getting boring
 

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Users on this thread like to express different opinions on how they view the game.

well if you find that the opinions of others amuses you, i am happy for you. :) Everyone tends to think differently on how they view a game.

Here is their patron page.
is this guy even real?

a few dozen of replies just from this guy in one month.
 

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where are all the old heads gone? a couple of months ago this thread was fun and full of angry people.
now this is getting boring
Gone I assume, this thing is 10 years old. People have shit to do and lives to live.
When the game came out, people that were 30 are now 40 and people who were 20 are now 30.
You don't jerk off to animated games forever..
(I hope there's an FF fan here lol)

is this guy even real?
a few dozen of replies just from this guy in one month.
hu lover the user, is real.
You can't synth his gnarly multi paragraph responses, ai ain't that good yet.
I've seen his comments on other threads, that would be a VERY advanced AI to be able to differentiate between game titles and their individual idiosyncrasies. While also being consistent in articulation.

Not possible atm.
I mean come on, being on this site you have to know MTL fucking sucks?
Basic word phrases, sure. But advanced comprehensive understanding, noo way.

What an interesting thing to say from an account that's 4 years old and has 17 comments..
What's causing you to think that?
Is it just consistent replies? Because I have also replied to quite a bit in the past handful of months.
Or is it something else?
 

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Are you real? Can you prove you are not part of dead internet "theory"?
Yeah.

"Do not buy any product sold by an international company as its likely they will have bent or broken the law to become an international company. Avoid buying products from popular brands as much as possible. Do not trust the government they are never there to help you. Anything bigger than family level group of people is unlikely to be nice for the sake of kindness and you should be paranoid"
 

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thanks for the answer, just the steam part alone is enough for me to not support obviously...
but it being a gacha game now...yikes
Just so you are aware the gacha part is a bit exaggerated. It really depends.

Are you someone who likes only 1-2, maybe 3, specific girls currently out? Not a problem to unlock the vast majority of their poses completely free with minimal grinding and zero money spent beyond the $36 to actually purchase the game. Just use the character specific card redemption to stop wasting in-game currency on characters you don't care about.

Are you someone who obsessively, maybe even unhealthily, must collect every pose for every character including the ones you will not use? You're definitely fucked unless you either grind a ton or spend a few dollars (small enough to not care unless you're quite poor).

This is essentially the nature of gacha systems, granted some are more abusive and will essentially nearly lock progress behind such systems or leave you excessively underpowered in some games.

As for the online part, really who cares? Please don't respond on this point. I've already seen every version of the same asinine idiotic argument. I'm only telling you that such complaints are stupid. You make of it what you will.

thanks to you as well..

guess i will just forget about this game and maybe check back in a year if its cracked
Not likely. It is server side hosting a lot of the data.

You also will not find any other porn game with this quality of animation because they all suck and are cash grabs, have asinine development progress, and go no where... while the company Illusion has faded from its own repetitive outdated products. Progress here also has its sore points, like character variety is shit and updates often lead to technical issues, VR support got axed for absolutely no reason and still isn't back in the game and keeps getting the "Soon" treatment, and so on. So you can either enjoy this or settle for another subpar option, or simply skip porn games entirely and go watch actual porn or hentai. Either way, situation is unfortunate.
 
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SortaLewd

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Just so you are aware the gacha part is a bit exaggerated. It really depends.

Are you someone who likes only 1-2, maybe 3, specific girls currently out? Not a problem to unlock the vast majority of their poses completely free with minimal grinding and zero money spent beyond the $36 to actually purchase the game. Just use the character specific card redemption to stop wasting in-game currency on characters you don't care about.

Are you someone who obsessively, maybe even unhealthily, must collect every pose for every character including the ones you will not use? You're definitely fucked unless you either grind a ton or spend a few dollars (small enough to not care unless you're quite poor).

This is essentially the nature of gacha systems, granted some are more abusive and will essentially nearly lock progress behind such systems or leave you excessively underpowered in some games.
Not going to lie, the way I interpret this is you essentially saying, "purchase this porn game if you only want to see a select portion of said porn, otherwise grind like crazy, and if you actually want to access the entire game you purchased, maybe you have an unhealthy obsession"

And at that point, why even bother purchasing the game at all? Most people don't spend a dime on normal porn, and now you're basically suggesting to spend $36 and maybe get $10(or whatever ratio to dollar you consider 1-3 girls) of content.

Also, it's been a while since I last booted Fallen Doll, but I remember when Cecil, or whatever the engineer girl's name is released, I spent the season pass or whatever the booster item is called to unlock stuff and it didn't unlock all of her animations let alone enough for 2 or 3 girls. I believe there were account resets though so maybe things have changed since then. Anyone else that also owns the game correct me if I'm wrong, but $36 dollars, which is the base tier to get you access to the game, isn't enough to "unlock the vast majority of their poses completely free with minimal grinding and zero money spent beyond the $36 to actually purchase the game". Yeah, maybe you could spend a few dollars extra to skip the grind, but again, why would people do this when they don't even pay for normal porn? Imagine actually buying a porn film that's 30 mins long, but unless you go through hoops you only get 10mins out of said movie. Spent $20 on a porn film and got $5 worth of content from it.


As for the online part, really who cares? Please don't respond on this point. I've already seen every version of the same asinine idiotic argument. I'm only telling you that such complaints are stupid. You make of it what you will.
Just because you personally might be comfortable with the online aspects of Fallen Doll doesn't mean others will share the same sentiment, being dismissive of it doesn't invalidate people's preferences or make them stupid lol. It's cool the game is up your alley, but people are free to feel differently.
 

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Just so you are aware the gacha part is a bit exaggerated. It really depends.

Are you someone who likes only 1-2, maybe 3, specific girls currently out? Not a problem to unlock the vast majority of their poses completely free with minimal grinding and zero money spent beyond the $36 to actually purchase the game. Just use the character specific card redemption to stop wasting in-game currency on characters you don't care about.

Are you someone who obsessively, maybe even unhealthily, must collect every pose for every character including the ones you will not use? You're definitely fucked unless you either grind a ton or spend a few dollars (small enough to not care unless you're quite poor).

This is essentially the nature of gacha systems, granted some are more abusive and will essentially nearly lock progress behind such systems or leave you excessively underpowered in some games.

As for the online part, really who cares? Please don't respond on this point. I've already seen every version of the same asinine idiotic argument. I'm only telling you that such complaints are stupid. You make of it what you will.


Not likely. It is server side hosting a lot of the data.

You also will not find any other porn game with this quality of animation because they all suck and are cash grabs, have asinine development progress, and go no where... while the company Illusion has faded from its own repetitive outdated products. Progress here also has its sore points, like character variety is shit and updates often lead to technical issues, VR support got axed for absolutely no reason and still isn't back in the game and keeps getting the "Soon" treatment, and so on. So you can either enjoy this or settle for another subpar option, or simply skip porn games entirely and go watch actual porn or hentai. Either way, situation is unfortunate.
thank you for clarifying, i know very well what gacha is since i play a ton of mobile gacha games..

as for the online part..i wouldnt mind it that much...my problem (as stated in my first post) is that i cant use steam for suich games since steam locked germany out of it because of my government. Yes i could use vpn but since steam is against this and it wouldnt be the first time for them to ban people using it to get games not allowed in a country, i would risk losing my account with over 2k games on it. Just for one porn game, no thanks.
 

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thank you for clarifying, i know very well what gacha is since i play a ton of mobile gacha games..

as for the online part..i wouldnt mind it that much...my problem (as stated in my first post) is that i cant use steam for suich games since steam locked germany out of it because of my government. Yes i could use vpn but since steam is against this and it wouldnt be the first time for them to ban people using it to get games not allowed in a country, i would risk losing my account with over 2k games on it. Just for one porn game, no thanks.
IIRC there were plans to make the game available on another platform eventually, I believe DLsite or something like that. Probably not anytime soon, but if you're really interested in this game then it might be worth keeping an eye out for that.
 

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thanks to you as well..

guess i will just forget about this game and maybe check back in a year if its cracked
That's a pipe dream considering there is only one person that is publicly known to be able to crack denuvo. Who knows maybe helius will do a capcom and eventually remove denuvo in 2 or so years after launch.

Edit: wait was it capcom that does that? Or ubisoft?
 
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That's a pipe dream considering there is only one person that is publicly known to be able to crack denuvo. Who knows maybe helius will do a capcom and eventually remove denuvo in 2 or so years after launch.

Edit: wait was it capcom that does that? Or ubisoft?
As long as the backer still pouring free money to helius, he will keep the denuvo intact. Lets just say, if he is still got $50K per month, or even $30K, paying $2-3K per month for denuvo license is a trivial thing for him. He know he get the guarantee of the best protection in the world right now. Even if someone crack the game, he can just update the game, add new animation and update the denuvo, and all is well again. And he got it ALL FREE.

Unlike other companies who had to factor in denuvo license factor against their sale revenue, that makes them remove denuvo at some point because the license fee tilting heavily against their revenue, helius doesn't have to think about it at all because he got the money for free, from donation, not from sale.

The only way to make helius abandon denuvo is for backer to stop supporting this scam. If he's only getting <$5K donation this month, I bet you he will remove the denuvo next month.
 

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Not going to lie, the way I interpret this is you essentially saying, "purchase this porn game if you only want to see a select portion of said porn, otherwise grind like crazy, and if you actually want to access the entire game you purchased, maybe you have an unhealthy obsession"

And at that point, why even bother purchasing the game at all? Most people don't spend a dime on normal porn, and now you're basically suggesting to spend $36 and maybe get $10(or whatever ratio to dollar you consider 1-3 girls) of content.

Also, it's been a while since I last booted Fallen Doll, but I remember when Cecil, or whatever the engineer girl's name is released, I spent the season pass or whatever the booster item is called to unlock stuff and it didn't unlock all of her animations let alone enough for 2 or 3 girls. I believe there were account resets though so maybe things have changed since then. Anyone else that also owns the game correct me if I'm wrong, but $36 dollars, which is the base tier to get you access to the game, isn't enough to "unlock the vast majority of their poses completely free with minimal grinding and zero money spent beyond the $36 to actually purchase the game". Yeah, maybe you could spend a few dollars extra to skip the grind, but again, why would people do this when they don't even pay for normal porn? Imagine actually buying a porn film that's 30 mins long, but unless you go through hoops you only get 10mins out of said movie. Spent $20 on a porn film and got $5 worth of content from it.




Just because you personally might be comfortable with the online aspects of Fallen Doll doesn't mean others will share the same sentiment, being dismissive of it doesn't invalidate people's preferences or make them stupid lol. It's cool the game is up your alley, but people are free to feel differently.
You can reasonably grind like 85% of the poses for 3-4 characters with almost zero effort. You should very obviously start by focusing on the first 1-2 you like the most and pick those character packs. If you spam a non-character pack and get duplicates or get poses for characters you do not want then, yeah, it will be grindy because that is insanely inefficient. The exception is if you want to collect every single pose, no matter how trivial the pose is even if you wont use it or for characters you will barely touch... that becomes more of an unhealthy achievement hunting problem than an issue with the game. Alternatively, for a couple of dollars you could just pay away the grind like many MMOs and such allow. Personally, I'm level 8 in the game and have around 75% of the poses unlocked for Alet and quite a few for Erika/Anya (probably around 40% give or take). I'd play more but I'm not a fan of the current roster of characters.

Naturally, almost any game you play you don't just get "everything unlocked" without grinding. Almost no game, except the most linear of games, function this way.

As for spending the initial $36 on a porn game, if that is a problem then don't and enjoy free porn. This isn't even an argument that would make sense to have.

The online requirement complaints are, in fact, quite stupid. The game wants to fight piracy specifically because, oh look a mega 700+ page piracy thread with people who are so desperate they will willingly download malware hoping it has up to date content and beg without reading instructions for the newest crack. Porn is one of the most pirated media, too, and it essentially destroyed the most prominent porn game company, Illusion. As for the complaints against online components there hasn't been a valid one yet.

thank you for clarifying, i know very well what gacha is since i play a ton of mobile gacha games..

as for the online part..i wouldnt mind it that much...my problem (as stated in my first post) is that i cant use steam for suich games since steam locked germany out of it because of my government. Yes i could use vpn but since steam is against this and it wouldnt be the first time for them to ban people using it to get games not allowed in a country, i would risk losing my account with over 2k games on it. Just for one porn game, no thanks.
You could consider using a VPN on a completely different account. They shouldn't punish you on all accounts as long as you don't log in to the main one you want to not risk while on VPN. You could also setup a virtual machine or an alternate PC (granted this is more costly). Beyond that I'm not sure unfortunately. As SortaLewd said, the game may release on other storefronts one day but operating in Helius time that ETA is probably somewhere in between bullshit and the apocalypse.
 

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You can reasonably grind like 85% of the poses for 3-4 characters with almost zero effort.
I would like to see proof that you've done that.
Because saying it's possible without actually doing it yourself is quite dishonest.

What's your research level?
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Ah shit nvm, missed this part.

Personally, I'm level 8 in the game and have around 75% of the poses unlocked for Alet and quite a few for Erika/Anya (probably around 40% give or take). I'd play more but I'm not a fan of the current roster of characters.
So you haven't "reasonably grind like 85% of the poses for 3-4 characters with almost zero effort".
You just made that shit up to sound smart.

If you spam a non-character pack and get duplicates or get poses for characters you do not want then, yeah, it will be grindy because that is insanely inefficient.
What? Non-character packs? You need duplicates to get rare positions you haven't been able to get with RNG packs?
Previously you could choose: character specific or experiment specific(human or alien).(*they've changed this a couple times)
Now it's ONLY character specific. 6 individual choices.

Honestly it sounds like you played the game a while back and haven't since..

As for the complaints against online components there hasn't been a valid one yet.
Well there's the "gay" argument: "Have you ever jerked off your friend with his hand? It's not gay I swear! Here let me show you"
Meaning: none of us want to jerk off with some other dudes character or even with them around. It feels gay.
But I digress, all jokes aside a valid argument would be:

When a game is ONLINE ONLY, you don't OWN shit. You just paid a licensing fee to rent it.
You even said as much in your reply here:
Nothing they said suggested this, so I'm not sure why you would phrase it this way even if the end result is technically true. They didn't make any comments explicitly stating this, though obviously just like any other online only game you would lose access if servers went down. This is kind of how online only games work, duh. Same would happen if Final Fantasy XIV, Guild Wars 2, or some other online game went down.
Obviously, this would suck but unless they completely screw up this shouldn't be a concern for many years and by the time it actually happens we should have better and more advanced games out to fill the gap.
"this would suck" was your response to purchasing a game with the intent of owning it, but then loosing it once it goes offline.
Or technically in this instance "the fact that you'll lose "harem" mode if the game's server goes down".

Even then you dismiss ownership ENTIRELY because "this shouldn't be a concern for many years and by the time it actually happens we should have better and more advanced games out to fill the gap".

Utterly spitting in the face of retro games.

I would argue you just don't care if it's online or not because: you're level 8, you barely play this game, and don't care if it shuts down cuz something else should be out soon.
 

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You can reasonably grind like 85% of the poses for 3-4 characters with almost zero effort. You should very obviously start by focusing on the first 1-2 you like the most and pick those character packs. If you spam a non-character pack and get duplicates or get poses for characters you do not want then, yeah, it will be grindy because that is insanely inefficient.
I haven't looked at it in a while so the only thing I have to go by is my own past experience when unlocking the engineer girl. What you said was, "Are you someone who likes only 1-2, maybe 3, specific girls currently out? Not a problem to unlock the vast majority of their poses completely free with minimal grinding and zero money spent beyond the $36 to actually purchase the game" and I commented on that because from my experience, that wasn't true. I focused on one singular character using the currency and booster you get that comes with the $36 tier and still didn't unlock all poses for her.

The exception is if you want to collect every single pose, no matter how trivial the pose is even if you wont use it or for characters you will barely touch... that becomes more of an unhealthy achievement hunting problem than an issue with the game.
I also commented on this because it's a pretty weird outlook when it comes to games. If you look at Elden Ring for example and you see someone that wanted to obtain all spells the game has to offer, would you consider that an unhealthy achievement hunt? Is it really odd to expect that someone who paid for a game would like access to all the content they paid for without hassle even if they might not use it all the time?

Alternatively, for a couple of dollars you could just pay away the grind like many MMOs and such allow. Personally, I'm level 8 in the game and have around 75% of the poses unlocked for Alet and quite a few for Erika/Anya (probably around 40% give or take). I'd play more but I'm not a fan of the current roster of characters.

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As for spending the initial $36 on a porn game, if that is a problem then don't and enjoy free porn. This isn't even an argument that would make sense to have.
Combining these two points. I think you misunderstood, I wasn't saying $36 or any amount of money was the issue here, it's that what you were suggesting was to pay the initial price then also chip in extra as a means to skip an annoying grind just to get a portion of the content you paid for. Unlike MMOs, Fallen Doll isn't packed full of content, all it has to offer is its porn. In MMOs a lot of the time you have to do x, y, z and that can take you a while to get to where you want to be to comfortably play certain content available, and in those cases, I could see MTX to skip grinding making sense. Warframe is a great example of this. In Fallen Doll there's just porn locked behind a grind purposely made annoying to encourage extra spending just to get a slice out of the whole pie you purchased.

Naturally, almost any game you play you don't just get "everything unlocked" without grinding. Almost no game, except the most linear of games, function this way.
This is true, but Fallen Doll Operation Lovecraft started with this function. Before Harem mode was introduced there was only Gallery mode that offered everything unlocked without grinding.

The online requirement complaints are, in fact, quite stupid. The game wants to fight piracy specifically because, oh look a mega 700+ page piracy thread with people who are so desperate they will willingly download malware hoping it has up to date content and beg without reading instructions for the newest crack. Porn is one of the most pirated media, too, and it essentially destroyed the most prominent porn game company, Illusion.
You can add whatever anti-piracy methods to a game and still not have it be online only in the sense of forced multiplayer. See Helldivers 2 as a more recent example of this. An online only game with GameGuard that offers both co-op and single-player.

And from what I've seen from a lot of people that actually own the game in this thread, the issue is less about Helius trying to fight piracy and more-so that in doing so he completely changed up the game from what a lot of us originally supported, which is why you had people that actually own the game using the cracked version instead of the live version before the game updated beyond v0.49. This thread has hundreds of pages but a lot of the usual chatters are older supporters.

As for the complaints against online components there hasn't been a valid one yet.
It isn't up to you to determine whether someone's preference is valid or not. You can have your own opinion on the matter and that's fine, but it'd be no different than me saying this game doesn't need females curvier than Anya then saying people that disagree have no valid reasons to disagree. It's preference. You may prefer or like one thing, others can like something else. The script can be switched and I could ask you why this game needs forced multiplayer then claim you have no valid responses.
 
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