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BigJoeHanson

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Mar 29, 2020
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Was super hype to see a new Kegani Labs game but from what everyone is saying in this thread its not as good as the rest. I mean i'm still gonna play it and try to find some enjoyment out of it but :cry:
Seems to just be the grind people have an issue with. So I guess the solution is to just cheat.
 

Ferghus

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Aug 25, 2017
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This is sort of what I tried to do by changing how Lust works with daily gains and only resetting if you finish a dungeon. The player then needs to run the dungeon but to defend her from actions there you need to spend contribution points.
And I appreciate that, but even then, it's relatively easy to run dungeons daily and maintain high contribution to keep training low. All you'd have to do is run the easiest dungeon on the lowest difficulty to minimize lust gain, and depending on your special attack level, you could oneshot the bats. If you're wailling to eat a few attacks to clothes, you could even get a net gain of contribution points. Gold is pretty much the only thing that doesn't remain static across different levels.

But either way, the dev should have really known better. The whole premise that the girl is literally just bait while the MC does all the fighting makes no sense when you're told that they specifically joined the guild to hunt dragons. Basically anyone could fill her role and she never gets better at defending herself.

In place of the static chance to not gain any training, I think the dev should have included a training tree for her to evade clothing damage attacks and defend against the guildmaster's attempts to molest her, with the effectiveness inversely scaling with her training/lust to represent her being less bothered by it. Narratively, self-defense training would be something the MC does to Mel (either because she trusts him more than the guildmaster, or the guildmaster encourages it knowing it would cause Mel to have negative perceptions of the MC) and it would require that he's chosen to spend the day with her to even train that. Mechanically, we could explain the drop in affection as her having doubts about his intentions. But either way, her being able to defend herself is a practical skill that makes sense to have instead of being a static target.

The other thing I think they could have done was to introduce a seduction skill (that also can be upgraded for additional turns) to purposely draw the guildmaster's attention to a specific body part at the cost of Mel's affection. Mechanically, it wouldn't be any more effective than going into a dungeon where monsters specifically target X or Y, for training, but it would serve as a counter skill to enemies directing the guildmaster to focus on a part. This should help minimize training XP to parts that lack clothes and should result in only a minor contribution penalty compared to the MC inferfering with the guildmaster directly. It also adds an element of debauchery because the MC's now introducing an element where he's encouraging cheating (and should reflect in the stats).
 
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liubeizhaoyun

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Mar 29, 2022
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The issue is that the game is fundamentally very bare bones. The easiest "fix" is to decrease the grind and increase the chance of peeping success because as a player, you want to see a break in the monotony of mindlessly clicking through the dungeon. Like the guy what the guide pointed out, there's basically no element of challenge.

In the other games, you're racing against time to get the girl before the other dudes do, and you have to make tactical decisions about what you're willing to sacrifice in the pursuit of that. That's what makes the NTR good, because a sense of urgency and anxiety looms over all your decisions. Or alternatively, as a voyeur trying to get the girl laid by someone else, you have to basically hunt for the scenes, which is its own fun.

But in this game, there's not dynamic decisions. Whether the girl has a lewd crest is up to you. Whether the girl prostitutes herself is up to you. Whether you want to grind favorability and Contribution risk-free is completely up to you. If you give all the control to the player, it's not really NTR anymore. The fact that training doesn't carry over either also means that you'll still have to spend hours clicking like an idiot before she has enough training to see anything.
i think the dev is changing his mind, i remember during the early development phase on this game, the dev ever mention on ci-en, said the local market trending pure love rather than NTR, er...yes, if you look at other JP NTR game, most of the case you can choose the route, NTR or non-NTR, maybe non-NTR have no scencs,
 

kR1pt0n1t3

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After playing it until the end I can safely say that the game is a nightmare to play if you want to avoid NTR.
It's so painfully hard to get enough gold to level up stuff that I ended up just selling her in the brothel myself.

Or maybe I missed something. Maybe there's a way to earn gold I've not found yet.
 

Malvorium

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Dec 25, 2018
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I have never used such programs. Therefore, I would like to know if there is at least some guide on where to enter gold indicators, etc. Because I sat for about an hour trying to figure it out using other people's video guides, but unfortunately it was all useless.
Hi. I made a video guide on how to install the mod and demonstration of what it can do. I've edited my original post to include the video links.
I hope this helps.
 

liubeizhaoyun

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Mar 29, 2022
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After playing it until the end I can safely say that the game is a nightmare to play if you want to avoid NTR.
It's so painfully hard to get enough gold to level up stuff that I ended up just selling her in the brothel myself.

Or maybe I missed something. Maybe there's a way to earn gold I've not found yet.
the major income of the gold is dungeon beside brothel. the high lv dungeon can earn quit a lot of gold. to beat the high end dungeon, beside upgrade your skill, the 4 bath girl also doing great part, one of the girl can increase the normal attack damage, the others giving good buff on trap, dropping rate.
 

Old Hentai

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One more update. Reworked some stuff, but two main points
1. NG+ dungeon progress doesn't reset
2. Defense value in the bath menu can now be set negative to increase training efficacy on those parts. With this maxed out you should be able to make her a turbo slut in just a few runs, and can easily target specific parts to unlock various CG scenarios.


This is sort of what I tried to do by changing how Lust works with daily gains and only resetting if you finish a dungeon. The player then needs to run the dungeon but to defend her from actions there you need to spend contribution points.
Your mod really makes some difference making the game a bit more interesting, I was thinking on do edits of the visuals or try to replicate the style of the artist to add more scenes animations clothes edits and maybe try uncensored patch but I lack of the skill to extract original files, do mods and then implement again to the game.

And with the state of the game im not sure if will be more worth it to try these visual edits to one of the previous games.
 
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kR1pt0n1t3

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Dec 31, 2017
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the major income of the gold is dungeon beside brothel. the high lv dungeon can earn quit a lot of gold. to beat the high end dungeon, beside upgrade your skill, the 4 bath girl also doing great part, one of the girl can increase the normal attack damage, the others giving good buff on trap, dropping rate.
Doesn't doing high level dungeon make her a slut faster. Since Bruno takes her to side and increases lust. I was trying to do like a non-slut virgin run. I guess the game wasn't designed for that :)
 

Ferghus

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Aug 25, 2017
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i think the dev is changing his mind, i remember during the early development phase on this game, the dev ever mention on ci-en, said the local market trending pure love rather than NTR, er...yes, if you look at other JP NTR game, most of the case you can choose the route, NTR or non-NTR, maybe non-NTR have no scencs,
It's fine if the dev doesn't want to do NTR anymore, but don't push out a half-assed game. He could have easily reused all the assets and game mechanics for a non-NTR game. Hell, I'd even argue that the bones of a good NTR game is built on the same foundation of a pure-love premise. Namely you, the player, having the ability to make (seemingly) impactful decisions. Games where "NTR" and "love" just happen without any player investment don't appeal to me.

That said, I am a sucker for slice of life cohabitation games too. But the good ones make up for the lack in meaningful decisions with rich story or high degree of interactivity. It's never just mindless grinding.
 

ServumMagnum

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Feb 20, 2019
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can you tell me how to use the cheat engine on the game
It should be as easy as:
1) launch cheat engine
2) load the game's exe into cheat engine's program
3) load the cheat table
then you can edit the numbers that appear next to the pointer for contribution and gold, so you can set those values to any number you desire. You can also click the box, which will show a red 'x', to prevent the number from changing
I hope this helps, but if you have any other questions, feel free to ask
 
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loghos

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Jun 16, 2018
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Hi. I made a cheat mod for the game.
It can:
  • Add Gold
  • Modify Contribution
  • Modify Skills (Special Attack, Herbology, Lockpick, AvoidTrap, Peeping, Ultravision/Special Eyes)
  • Modify Skill Limits
It requires to work. Please ensure the path to the game's exe is in english and does not contain any special or japanese characters.
Please choose v0.6.1 for the MelonLoader's version because the latest beta (v0.6.2) appears to have some issues when activating the mod.
I suggest using the automated installer for set up.
Afterwards, please drag and drop the LeaderCheatMod.dll file into the Mods folder located in the game folder.



Video Installation Guides:

i was wondering if you could also add the skill from the harem girls and parameters of the girl, like the training value of each part? as how the game is right now the cap can lock you out of some scenes but if we can go all the way to 999 with each part would be better? don't know if that could make some bugs tho and thx for the mod!
 

Firaxius

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After playing it until the end I can safely say that the game is a nightmare to play if you want to avoid NTR.
It's so painfully hard to get enough gold to level up stuff that I ended up just selling her in the brothel myself.

Or maybe I missed something. Maybe there's a way to earn gold I've not found yet.
Well if you want to keep her oral and vaginal safe, you could always opt to prostitute your gf anal, you get 300 and the rest ya get just from grinding in dungeons, least it the savest way of NTR to get her not pregnant by others, also get ya herbs up so ya can reduce her lewd crest in the evening together with the anal prostitution. Funny thing is i tried to see how easy she be in having sex with the master, but I gotten her on day 163 up to 999 lust and still all she did was french kiss him so, if you got high favor points with her, she doesn't give in so easy to sleep others not even the master. Another thing ya could do is unlock the harem, those girls if you gain favors with them help you in gaining better money from chests, heals from bottles and such and second one even give you boost to defence skills, not yet tried to get a third girl but obvious if get others ya will become eventualy the netori hero and the master doesn't have any girl left.
 

Dragul17

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Well if you want to keep her oral and vaginal safe, you could always opt to prostitute your gf anal, you get 300 and the rest ya get just from grinding in dungeons, least it the savest way of NTR to get her not pregnant by others, also get ya herbs up so ya can reduce her lewd crest in the evening together with the anal prostitution. Funny thing is i tried to see how easy she be in having sex with the master, but I gotten her on day 163 up to 999 lust and still all she did was french kiss him so, if you got high favor points with her, she doesn't give in so easy to sleep others not even the master. Another thing ya could do is unlock the harem, those girls if you gain favors with them help you in gaining better money from chests, heals from bottles and such and second one even give you boost to defence skills, not yet tried to get a third girl but obvious if get others ya will become eventualy the netori hero and the master doesn't have any girl left.
The master still fucks the harem girls if you don't have sex with them after a week. Still trying to figure out how to get him to creampie the main girl. maybe a combination of cuckold or cheating plus vaginal but with the way the training cap is so low there's no real point. you basically have to cut off any development of the other areas to even barely get 3 fetishes to max level. going for vanilla you have to get vaginal up to 900 in order creampie which grinds the bath and sex option really hard. basically asking the player to let the girl sleep with Bruno for him to develop her
 

Ferghus

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Aug 25, 2017
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The master still fucks the harem girls if you don't have sex with them after a week. Still trying to figure out how to get him to creampie the main girl. maybe a combination of cuckold or cheating plus vaginal but with the way the training cap is so low there's no real point. you basically have to cut off any development of the other areas to even barely get 3 fetishes to max level. going for vanilla you have to get vaginal up to 900 in order creampie which grinds the bath and sex option really hard. basically asking the player to let the girl sleep with Bruno for him to develop her
Can't you just run dungeons where monsters target the lower body to encourage vaginal training?
Well if you want to keep her oral and vaginal safe, you could always opt to prostitute your gf anal, you get 300 and the rest ya get just from grinding in dungeons, least it the savest way of NTR to get her not pregnant by others, also get ya herbs up so ya can reduce her lewd crest in the evening together with the anal prostitution. Funny thing is i tried to see how easy she be in having sex with the master, but I gotten her on day 163 up to 999 lust and still all she did was french kiss him so, if you got high favor points with her, she doesn't give in so easy to sleep others not even the master. Another thing ya could do is unlock the harem, those girls if you gain favors with them help you in gaining better money from chests, heals from bottles and such and second one even give you boost to defence skills, not yet tried to get a third girl but obvious if get others ya will become eventualy the netori hero and the master doesn't have any girl left.
See, if the guild master's intention was to turn MC into a netori champion, it would make sense for MC to inherit the guild position. But apparently, guildmaster just wants to cuck him, specifically, for some reason.
 
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