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Then don't ask a dumb question only to claim to move on after explaining to you
I'm moving on because continuing will get us nowhere, and it will be the same if I argue with you about saying my question was dumb. It will be an eternal deadlock. So now, I'm moving on from this brief convo too.
 

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I'm moving on because continuing will get us nowhere, and it will be the same if I argue with you about saying my question was dumb. It will be an eternal deadlock. So now, I'm moving on from this brief convo too.
Because it was dumb. You were basically implying a character shouldn't be popular because they are bitchy. Assuming everyone prefers nicer girls and acting like they deserve the popularity more.
 

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It probably wouldn't have, and I share your speculation on multiple restarts. I suspect the primary reason they haven't changed engines to something more friendly is because they'd be sacrificing easy Android support in the process. Since they've said in the past that a significant portion of their audience is mobile users and that removing the black bars on the phone screen was a major impetus for switching to widescreen, they're stuck trying to modify Ren'Py into something it was never designed for.

It's particularly concerning that they haven't closed a single coding task in nearly four months, even after splitting things up to reflect the current state of development. The tracker on :
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vs. the tracker today:
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Username7, you maybe got a tracker update? Last month's progress report had coding doing some asinine stuff like reworking the Ren'Py dissolve effects, so I have a sinking feeling that DC has him off on side-quests in addition to being the de facto project manager for the posing crew.
Sorry about the late reply for whatever reason I didn't get notified you'd asked and I mostly ignore this dumpster fire of a thread unless I have something to report or there's a Patreon update. But as you can see from this month's progress report Stray once again spent yet another month ping ponging around doing whatever DC deemed more important. As far as the tracker goes for the last two months anything that has moved into the completed sections has moved so close to the progress report that its not really worth posting about it when it'll be in the Patreon write up in a few days anyway.
 

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The only thing I want to know is why paypigs are donating since 2021?
Probably for the same reason people still go to church and donate even though it's common knowledge some priests have a deep connection to minors.

They do what they think is right, don't dig any deeper, yes?
 

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A good Easter day to all you, fans of the work of DarkCookie and this amazing game Never ending Story Saga.
I mean Summertime Saga. : )
Yeah, there was character like that once. He got his fanbase and then fore some bizarre reason decided to halt any work on his lifetime project. He did some bizarre shit like small works for chidren, he did anything but his main work. And that shit lasted for years. You can predict how it all ended. He died without finishing his main project. I dunno what circle of hell he is enjoying now, but is seems DC is willing to repeat that feat.
20+ scenes and counting :oops:. By far the most of any girl. She'll reach 30 scenes at this rate before other neglected girls get some haha
You mean - before those simpletons start suspect something, while being milked?
 
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If/When DC starts mentioning a second project, then he will start pushing for the game to actually end


Obsessing over this game and it's development doesn't make sense at this point and hasn't for at least the last 2-3 years.
 

itsyeboii

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So what if she is? People like taming the bitchy girl and making her warm up a little. It's much more satisfying than other route. (Roxxy is also popular for the same reason). Also Jenny has the hottest scenes in the game so that helps her case. At the end of the day, the sex scenes matter more than anything in a light-hearted porn game.

Not everyone likes generic sweet and kind girls, people like a mean girl if handled properly.
Is she handled properly though? She's beyond cliche and has barely any depth to her other than being a psycho bitch for no reason whatsoever.

I would've like her more if she acted a bit more normal when she does warm up to MC, and if she would've been somewhat submissive in the dom route. Essentially just better writing.
 

j4yj4m

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I would've like her more if she acted a bit more normal when she does warm up to MC, and if she would've been somewhat submissive in the dom route. Essentially just better writing.
To be fair, I don't think this warming up part was ever really meant to be part of her story, but because they added these choices which lead to nothing, it kinda feels like it should be. But at least in my mind, that role has been mostly occupied by Roxxy and probably by Ronda/Annie to some degree, too.

Just like so many other characters, a proper choice (or no choice) in her story would have been good. So you'd have a branch, where she's actually dominating MC and one where MC clearly has the upper hand and she's got the submissive part. I think especially the first part would be much closer to what her role in the game was supposed to be.

So yeah, especially in her case I don't really get why they never elaborated these parts. It's not like they'd really require a lot of additional art or such.
 
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So what if she is? People like taming the bitchy girl and making her warm up a little. It's much more satisfying than other route. (Roxxy is also popular for the same reason). Also Jenny has the hottest scenes in the game so that helps her case. At the end of the day, the sex scenes matter more than anything in a light-hearted porn game.

Not everyone likes generic sweet and kind girls, people like a mean girl if handled properly.
I think its equivalent to girls liking "bad boys"
and saying shit like "I will change him" or "he will change for me"
 

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Is she handled properly though? She's beyond cliche and has barely any depth to her other than being a psycho bitch for no reason whatsoever.

I would've like her more if she acted a bit more normal when she does warm up to MC, and if she would've been somewhat submissive in the dom route. Essentially just better writing.
By your logic 90% of characters are not handled properly since almost every route and character are cliche and barely have depth, so what's your point? (Only Eve's route and the main plot have a semblance of depth.)

Jenny doesn't need a reason for anything, people are getting what they want from her: Taming her and dominating her. And she is somewhat submissive in the dom route, have you been playing with your eyes closed?

Jenny being the most popular character proves she is handled properly to an extent. What DC did with her has been successful. People don't care about this supposed depth and writing she's apparently lacking, they are more than happy with her the way she is.
 
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j4yj4m

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By your logic 90% of characters are not handled properly since almost every route and character are cliche and barely have depth, so what's your point? (Only Eve's route and the main plot have a semblance of depth.)

Jenny doesn't need a reason for anything, people are getting what they want from her: Taming her and dominating her. And she is somewhat submissive in the dom route, have you been playing with your eyes closed?

Jenny being the most popular character proves she is handled properly to an extent. What DC did with her has been successful. People don't care about this supposed depth and writing she's apparently lacking, they are more than happy with her the way she is.
To be fair, there's a bit of history to it. Jenny's character was popular back when there was still incest in the game. As such she had a lot of content before the reworks started. She simply benefits from being one of the very first characters to get content and isn't necessarily the most popular one.

The comparison between her and Eve/the main story is actually kinda the point. Jenny's story is supposed to be pretty much done, just as those two you mentioned (and unlike others which are meant to be reworked) but it still feels somewhat incomplete in comparison.

I'm very aware that the game isn't supposed to elaborate fetishes in depth, but in Jenny's case it really feels unnecessarily shallow at times. Especially if you consider the choices, which in return hardly make a difference.
 
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While there is a few, they are an extreme minority. It's common sense to always check your bank balance and look at what you've bought, so a huge majority of people do this. So most people who are patrons are knowingly spending money on him.

Even if you don't check your bank account a lot, you can know if you are still paying by reading your emails, or checking what current subscriptions you have.
 

itsyeboii

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By your logic 90% of characters are not handled properly since almost every route and character are cliche and barely have depth, so what's your point? (Only Eve's route and the main plot have a semblance of depth.)

Jenny doesn't need a reason for anything, people are getting what they want from her: Taming her and dominating her. And she is somewhat submissive in the dom route, have you been playing with your eyes closed?

Jenny being the most popular character proves she is handled properly to an extent. What DC did with her has been successful. People don't care about this supposed depth and writing she's apparently lacking, they are more than happy with her the way she is.
Sure, I'd like to see better writing overall, that doesn't take away from Jenny's bad writing though. My point still stands, I don't think her bitchy persona is handled properly at all. I'm not asking for Oscar worthy writing here, just something better than the juvenile shit we have now. It will only make the game more satisfying.

I was just trying to have a discussion about the actual game for once, but you're clearly taking this the wrong way.
 

SenkuIshigami

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Sure, I'd like to see better writing overall, that doesn't take away from Jenny's bad writing though. My point still stands, I don't think her bitchy persona is handled properly at all. I'm not asking for Oscar worthy writing here, just something better than the juvenile shit we have now. It will only make the game more satisfying.

I was just trying to have a discussion about the actual game for once, but you're clearly taking this the wrong way.
And I'm discussing with you so idk where that assumption is coming from.

You asked if Jenny was handled properly, I'm trying to tell you that yes, she objectively is. Because she fulfilled her character archetype. And people are happy with it, that's all that really matters. The route isn't well written, but I don't find it bad either. She was never set up for for a deeper storyline. Sure, I'd like to see more depth like you but my point is it's not really necessary for someone like her / storyline like hers.

We have two very different views on well handled characters - Yours is based on how good the character's writing is and mine is how well received the character is regardless of writing. It's your opinion if you didn't like the writing and that's fine, but questioning if she's well-handled when she's such a successful character? C'mon.
 
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