Fasil

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Just replayed this one, really one of the best, bought it even 2 times(dllsite and saikey) big thanks to the producers, really looking for their next game wich is out soon:)
 
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9am2pm.tkk

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Gotta post this here and make life easier on this grindfest bs that are some games alongside some explanations.
Here's a package with 3 different real time editors for MV that can work alongside each other but may have issues depending on base game RPG Maker version and overall plugins. The following cheat plugin/menus package contains the following:
- Azillen Cheat Plugin(Around v2.11). -> This comes with EnigmaVBUnpacker on most recent as well.
Azillen is by far, the best real time avaliable editor/plugin. Before installing, u can check the hotkeys so they don't meet other editors at all, normally the key to start the menu is L within game, on later versions they added shortcut to save menu and load taking key 1 and 2, however this conflicts with other plugin that is on 1 so i moved the key to "Home" and "End". The pros is that it works on real time, is very fast, can mod the data within game easy and even freeze/copy variables name so u can translate and find what u need. Cons... it only works for very first version of MV, the old exe with around 1.5mb and sometimes may conflict with plugins that are already in-game, such as one recent game named "Knight Regina" or something, literally making the game stop working.

- Emerald Plugin
The most basic and introductory one, you copy files to folder(don't have a install button such as the one above) and press on the bat file within the folder to auto set/configure and change the js files so key 1 acts to open it. It can save u time from grinding with easy enough to give exp/instant win battles, though most games may crash if u just insta win, but can always lower mobs hp to 1 and do the final hit. It can also read and change variables with the cons that even if it's fast enough, u can only change a single thing per time and whatever it's focused on screen. This plugin tends to work with most games(if not all MV/MZ) with minor exeptions such as Karryn's Prison game that instead of variables, uses different scripts to change edicts and events in-game, thus, it requires a modified version of this one to work(yeah, it also exists as one exclusive for Karryn somewhere) but this one is the basic.

- Paramonos Cheat Plugin.
This one is an hybrid between the 2 above, it requires no installation, just moving the cheated files to folder and u can open the cheat menu in-game pressing ctrl+c, issues are that the menu have a limitation on values in-screen simultaneously and if u don't use something like Azillen version to find specifics, it also uses outside plugin for translation of content in-game name. Up to u if u want to use.

Note that all 3 of those above can be used if set/configured under different keys and helps u to change/mod stuff freely while in-game. They all can be found here or in ulmf forum.

---> Special Mention/Addition
Outside of those 3 above, there's also the MQ made by an chinese guy and avaliable for download at ulmf forums. This one is the most complete/capable of reading most games including older versions of RPG maker BUT, it also the slowest to mine data and may have small issues changing values as it's slow to even mod numbers somehow. Ideally it's the most complete with translation and other stuff, but since it's also too big to be attached here, it's not. You can find this one and their updates here:


This game is compatible with all real time editors from above, u can use them all together. It also makes easier to reach/understand the game if u translate variable names and try to meet the conditions... there's one specific variable that dictates the chance of Lawrence acting on the girl/getting pissed of, or doing NTR in dungeons. This value must be negative with a cap of -100, where around -25 only minor harassment happens and closer to -100 it moves into sexual stuff. Also it's flagged as a "virus" because in theory and how it works, it is. It attaches itself to process and read data. So exactly like Cheat Engine and similars, up to you if u want to use(in this case, targetted process is MV related).
I'm absolutely loving this game, but ONLY while using a cheat engine (that this gem of a poster shared way earlier in the thread). Highly recommend picking up Azillen's Cheat Menu (MVMZ Cheat.exe) and figuring out some of the important variables. I used a screen translation tool to mass translate a bunch of the fields at once ( lets you take a screen snippet and translates the text in place) to make it a lot easier to figure out what's what. Kinda wish there was a way to permanently map variable names since there are so many it can be annoying to look them up often.

But basically just ignoring combat in this game makes it a much better game. Things I recommend to cheat:
- Auto win combat rounds
- Give yourself a hundred of those stupid torches for the church map
- Give yourself a bunch of cameras
- Give yourself a bunch of mysterious items to unlock the next level of the phone status viewer
- Tweak the love and corruption variables to speed things along or slow them down
- Freeze the time variables to give yourself time to get to her when she calls for help

Things I haven't figured out how to cheat but would like to:
- Twitter app images (I always see the same 4-5, how do I progress this?)
- Skip the days when Lawrence is out of town (I'M HERE FOR THE NTR BABYYYY!)

Also the cheat menu kinda makes the game lag if it's open for too long. So I just close/reopen it every so often and it fixes it.

Side question though: Does anybody know of more good games like this? Also a fan of Big Brother, Third Crisis and Special Request (corruption themed games, some with NTR), but this one has really been great. The grainy camera scenes is such a cool idea I haven't seen anywhere else.
 

Bleh21

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Kinda lost in this game.Im just going around doing the same three dungeons and watching events unfold at night. Am i supposed to be accomplishing anything here besides unlocking the occasional H-scene?
 
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S3vatari0n

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Kinda lost in this game.Im just going around doing the same three dungeons and watching events unfold at night. Am i supposed to be accomplishing anything here besides unlocking the occasional H-scene?
Depends on if you want the NTR ends or the normal/true ends.

NTR - keep doing what you're doing, eventually Kana's submission will force the NTR end.

Normal end - Go fight the final boss in the Top Left map when Blondie is away

True End - follow a convoluted guide that's actually easy once you know the steps. It's in this thread like 8 times, so you can search up True End yourself.
 

Bleh21

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Depends on if you want the NTR ends or the normal/true ends.

NTR - keep doing what you're doing, eventually Kana's submission will force the NTR end.

Normal end - Go fight the final boss in the Top Left map when Blondie is away

True End - follow a convoluted guide that's actually easy once you know the steps. It's in this thread like 8 times, so you can search up True End yourself.
I started playing cause I read there was a Netorase path? How would you get that ending?
 

Iexist

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I started playing cause I read there was a Netorase path? How would you get that ending?
There isn't a Netorase Path, there's a Netorase ending, but the way to get there is not typical of Netorase stories.

To get it you need to unlock the Porn Shop in town, have a conversation with the owner and gain the ability to record day time events. After that, you need to let L molest Kana during the day, catch them on camera, not interfere and record the interaction. Then you sell the recordings to the porn shop owner.

You need to do that until you hit... uh... I think it was 120k currency made solely out of selling the vids. Which, if you start from the very beginning, was... uh... I think until 1-2 sex variations? You didn't need to make it all the way to the anal scenes. Anyway, this is with hi-rez cameras. I have no idea how many vids it takes with low-rez ones, or if it's even possible with those. Dunno if there's differences in prices and whatnot.

Anyway, once the 120k are done, you need to go and beat the final boss on the weekend when L is away, and the game will automatically transition into the Netorase ending.

It's very tricky to achieve this ending on the 1st playthrough, because you can't severely weaken Kana with the curse cards to make daytime events easier. You also might not have access to hi-rez cameras aside from a few. You also can't control her submission stat at all... so it very easy to land straight into the full-on Netorare ending trying to get this.

Imho, this is by far the hardest ending to get out of all of them.
 
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S3vatari0n

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I started playing cause I read there was a Netorase path? How would you get that ending?
Unlock the Adult Video shop, rig up all the recovery room cameras you can in the daytime part, record all the dungeon NTR events and then sell them to the AV shop. After a certain $$ earned this way, the Netorase end will be locked in.
 

Bleh21

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There isn't a Netorase Path, there's a Netorase ending, but the way to get there is not typical of Netorase stories.

To get it you need to unlock the Porn Shop in town, have a conversation with the owner and gain the ability to record day time events. After that, you need to let L molest Kana during the day, catch them on camera, not interfere and record the interaction. Then you sell the recordings to the porn shop owner.

You need to do that until you hit... uh... I think it was 120k currency made solely out of selling the vids. Which, if you start from the very beginning, was... uh... I think until 1-2 sex variations? You didn't need to make it all the way to the anal scenes. Anyway, this is with hi-rez cameras. I have no idea how many vids it takes with low-rez ones, or if it's even possible with those. Dunno if there's differences in prices and whatnot.

Anyway, once the 120k are done, you need to go and beat the final boss on the weekend when L is away, and the game will automatically transition into the Netorase ending.

It's very tricky to achieve this ending on the 1st playthrough, because you can't severely weaken Kana with the curse cards to make daytime events easier. You also might not have access to hi-rez cameras aside from a few. You also can't control her submission stat at all... so it very easy to land straight into the full-on Netorare ending trying to get this.

Imho, this is by far the hardest ending to get out of all of them.
Good thing I have all the cheats
 

BodaC

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Finally played this game all the way through. Great art. Good NTR ramping. Loved the unique gameplay loop. But by the end of my 10+ hr play through (Not even getting all the scenes I was really wanting) I was burnt. I really enjoyed grabbing someone else’s save and watching the full NTR ending, and a few of the other full slut/verbally consensual scenes. I hope their next game is going to balance out the reward/effort scale. THE ART IS AMAZING, the premise was AMAZING, even the gameplay loop for 4-5 hrs was stimulating, but the learning curve and overall effort to get there really hurt the payoff.
 

Bleh21

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Im so done with this game, apparently paying 12k to the bartender permanently disables Lawrence for that day. Now he's coming in three days a week. Thanks but not thanks. Good hentai but absolutely braindead mechanics with zero explanations make for a terrible game.
 

BodaC

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Im so done with this game, apparently paying 12k to the bartender permanently disables Lawrence for that day. Now he's coming in three days a week. Thanks but not thanks. Good hentai but absolutely braindead mechanics with zero explanations make for a terrible game.
omg i forgot about this, I happened to save a day or two before i did that TWICE IN A ROW lmfao, so i reloaded, but i did not understand what the bartender meant at first either.
 

Tankylentil

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For anyone that is intrested RJ01153037 is one of the new games BBQLover is making but i don't think that it's an NTR one.
 

Sheppd

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For anyone that is intrested RJ01153037 is one of the new games BBQLover is making but i don't think that it's an NTR one.
The product description and patreon is basically "No gameplay mechanics, short and easy game, because so many of you people just want an image gallery instead of an actual game..... I used real life locations for every area, and this past year has been a nightmare getting a business license in Japan..." bitterness, heh.

If nothing else this thread has highlighted why all the mechanics stuff.
 
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Pr0GamerJohnny

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The product description is basically "No gameplay mechanics, super short brain dead game, because so many of you people just want an image gallery instead of an actual game....." bitterness, heh.

If nothing else this thread has highlighted why.
False dichotomy, as if the only 2 options are pages of image galleries or lazily designed grindfests :cautious: Demand more of your developers!
 
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Iexist

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BBQ Lover has a number of projects in the works right now and this thing that's upcoming now is basically a small side-project. It's barely an RPG and it's not a NTR work in any way either, and it's secondary to the Priest PRG thing that, from what I remember will be a NTR game, as well as the FPS game which I don't remember what kind of game it's intended to be, aside from being action packed with Hentai.

Oh, and they also have 2 ASMR projects in the works too, one for Nebel which I believe is meant to be a sequel to the first ASMR pack, and another for the Priest RPG. Said Priest RPG will, if things go very well, supposedly, get a demo/trial some time this month, but that's the optimistic estimate that's not very likely.

There was a mention about the complexity of the combat, but that's in relation to the Priest RPG, not this thing that's coming out now, back in February. They did mention that they got a good amount of comments on its complexity yada yada... but from what I've been seeing on ci-en, more people are commenting for the complexity of Nebel rather than against it, with more criticism being along the lines of better integrating the combat with the NTR experience or to make it clearer to understand how it's supposed to work. Oh, and of course, there's people that don't want combat at all and basically just want a gallery with extra steps, but literally every game with actual gameplay gets those kinds of comments...

Point is, the nature of the current upcoming game has nothing to do with Nebel's criticism or lack thereof.
 
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Chaussettes

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Is there a full save ? I know there was someone who put out a NG+ with a lot of things unlocked but there's still a lot of blocked scenes, and the game is really, really grindy (I still found most of the scenes on my own) I already spent like 6-7 hours in with speedcheat on.

There's a fairy that says that you can unlock all CGs if you speak to the fairy at the bottom of the dreamworld map but she doesn't seem to be there.
 

BodaC

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Is there a full save ? I know there was someone who put out a NG+ with a lot of things unlocked but there's still a lot of blocked scenes, and the game is really, really grindy (I still found most of the scenes on my own) I already spent like 6-7 hours in with speedcheat on.

There's a fairy that says that you can unlock all CGs if you speak to the fairy at the bottom of the dreamworld map but she doesn't seem to be there.
There is a save in here somewhere, with all the gallery, having a hard time finding it. It does suck that the game is so grindy though. I found it exciting calling Kana and finding her in random places doing “random” things but I hated that I spent over ten hours waiting for the rng to put her in the situation I wanted. Even blocking off the facilities in the dream world would BARELY help sometimes. Sorry I know you didn’t ask for a rant, but I srsly love this game and hate it so much lol. I did play this initially for 10 hrs and have gone back multiple times and started new games. Probably the only game I’ve done that with.

I know you were just saying it was grindy, but I srsly suggest starting a new game plus and going back through and enjoying the mechanics and premise. This game is a gem. I think certain mechanics (like the grindiness and the RNG) were implemented to make the game feel fresh and exciting each time you see a scene. Even if you’ve seen it before. The devs put a lot of love and time into the planning and implementation for sure.

Damn, I think this is one of my favorite games ever honestly.
 
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Chaussettes

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There is a save in here somewhere, with all the gallery, having a hard time finding it. It does suck that the game is so grindy though. I found it exciting calling Kana and finding her in random places doing “random” things but I hated that I spent over ten hours waiting for the rng to put her in the situation I wanted. Even blocking off the facilities in the dream world would BARELY help sometimes. Sorry I know you didn’t ask for a rant, but I srsly love this game and hate it so much lol. I did play this initially for 10 hrs and have gone back multiple times and started new games. Probably the only game I’ve done that with.

I know you were just saying it was grindy, but I srsly suggest starting a new game plus and going back through and enjoying the mechanics and premise. This game is a gem. I think certain mechanics (like the grindiness and the RNG) were implemented to make the game feel fresh and exciting each time you see a scene. Even if you’ve seen it before. The devs put a lot of love and time into the planning and implementation for sure.

Damn, I think this is one of my favorite games ever honestly.
Oh no I agree, I did play the game normally and got all the scenes that I got on my own. It's more complicated that it needs to be but it adds to the experience, and tbh after a moment you start to understand. It's just that yeah to get all the scenes you have to spend so much time so at least for the ones I didn't get I wanted the save.

Wait you can block some mechanics you don't want ? Damn that'll be helpful.
 

Chaussettes

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Nevermind actually, it was pretty easy to get the full save.

You just need to have seen one ending then when you go to the dreamworld (not the memory room, the one you enter when you go sleep if there is a scene that has happened) and you just go at the bottom even if the floor ends and there's an npc that unlocks everything except the true ending.
 
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