Iexist

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I agree with that possibility of Aida just being petty and Misaki could have little to do with hurting the MC and it's not in her character to screw over the MC. So it was likely just Aida's petty revenge for the most part. Yes, it is END 06. The son does eventually move out or run away and re-establishes relations with his father, since the MC is aware of where his son is and they keep in touch. The MC found it strange that Misaki never re-married, despite nothing seemingly stopping her, and then when he saw her again at the owner's restaurant, she was changed. Misaki had really suffered and gained weight and her appearance and changed according to the descriptions. Perhaps because of guilt, shame, and regret that the MC had to suffer for her mistakes and their divorce, which she really wanted to avoid at all costs. I think they still could've gotten back together, but the issue in that END was that he was with
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and he avoided for Misaki to see him again because he knew it would hurt her more than him.

You're right, it is funny that Aida never wins

Happy New Year! :)
First of all, Happy New Year to you, and every other perv that might be reading this post so soon into 2024.

At the end of the day, I suspect that we need to take most of the non-Fin endings with a grain of salt. Much like those weird Dead End branches that don't quite make full sense in terms of WHY they're dead end branches. After all, even if Shiobara dies early on in a car accident after seeing the thing with Nao, that wouldn't actually impact the majority of the story, just the endings much later on.

To an extent, I feel like a bunch of the early endings were written to allow someone without a guide to get used to how the choice system works in this VN, which in turn allows them to navigate to the more complex endings eventually. Because of that, a lot of the early endings needed to be light on the details, which where then added in much later in the Fin 1 and Fin 2 branches.

Speaking of, I wonder why they made two Fin type endings... It's obviously impossible for a game to have two True Endings, and from what I've seen, the story doesn't have a direct sequel (and thus no more presence of the MC and Misaki), but I understand that it has an indirect sequel, a three part story that involves their son. And if I understood correctly, Aida also appears in those and claiming that he was severely traumatized by big tiddy tomboys or some such.

If that is indeed true, I personally believe that Fin 2 is the True Ending. The reason for that is because it's in this branch that Misaki goes nuts on him, threatens to kill him and fucks off with nearly all of his home-made AVs. I think some people in this thread commented that they believed that it was Endings 2/3 or some such... but I don't think so. In those endings, Aida wasn't traumatized by Misaki. He was depressed and angry, but he wasn't traumatized or put off. However, in the Fin 2 branch, Misaki moved from just saying that she still loved her husband more than Aida, to actively demonstrating that even with all his training, she could and would absolutely defy him the moment he genuinely crossed the line completely.

That in my opinion is a pretty solid gut punch for him, a demonstration of his complete failure in making Misaki actually love him, as well as his inability to control her through her urges even after years of training and fucking her over 100 times and whatnot.

I imagine most NTR bastards would be extremely shocked if the girl they thought they broke turned on them so completely.

The fact that she latter actually gets back with the MC and they eventually fix up their life almost life nothing happened at all would likely hit him even worse, because the news would reach him. I have little doubt that Kurokawa and Chinnen would be petty enough to rub it in his face that his dickery failed so completely.

On a different note... another funny thing about this story is that, by modern definitions of NTR, Aida really was NTRed at the start of things. He was a close family friend of Misaki's family, he was an older brother figure to her, he loved her first, in his own twisted way... and then MC rolls in and steals her away from right under his nose. Written a little differently, it could have been a revenge story where Aida did indeed win back what was rightfully his. What's even MORE funny, at least to me, is that I think that if he was more forward with some things earlier on and didn't play stupid games, he could have gotten Misaki in his bed before MC ever appeared in his life, and she'd have totally been his perfect slut AND happy about it all in the long run.

Amazing just how much nuance there is in this hentai VN.
 

Lex Thorson

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First of all, Happy New Year to you, and every other perv that might be reading this post so soon into 2024.

At the end of the day, I suspect that we need to take most of the non-Fin endings with a grain of salt. Much like those weird Dead End branches that don't quite make full sense in terms of WHY they're dead end branches. After all, even if Shiobara dies early on in a car accident after seeing the thing with Nao, that wouldn't actually impact the majority of the story, just the endings much later on.

To an extent, I feel like a bunch of the early endings were written to allow someone without a guide to get used to how the choice system works in this VN, which in turn allows them to navigate to the more complex endings eventually. Because of that, a lot of the early endings needed to be light on the details, which where then added in much later in the Fin 1 and Fin 2 branches.

Speaking of, I wonder why they made two Fin type endings... It's obviously impossible for a game to have two True Endings, and from what I've seen, the story doesn't have a direct sequel (and thus no more presence of the MC and Misaki), but I understand that it has an indirect sequel, a three part story that involves their son. And if I understood correctly, Aida also appears in those and claiming that he was severely traumatized by big tiddy tomboys or some such.

If that is indeed true, I personally believe that Fin 2 is the True Ending. The reason for that is because it's in this branch that Misaki goes nuts on him, threatens to kill him and fucks off with nearly all of his home-made AVs. I think some people in this thread commented that they believed that it was Endings 2/3 or some such... but I don't think so. In those endings, Aida wasn't traumatized by Misaki. He was depressed and angry, but he wasn't traumatized or put off. However, in the Fin 2 branch, Misaki moved from just saying that she still loved her husband more than Aida, to actively demonstrating that even with all his training, she could and would absolutely defy him the moment he genuinely crossed the line completely.

That in my opinion is a pretty solid gut punch for him, a demonstration of his complete failure in making Misaki actually love him, as well as his inability to control her through her urges even after years of training and fucking her over 100 times and whatnot.

I imagine most NTR bastards would be extremely shocked if the girl they thought they broke turned on them so completely.

The fact that she latter actually gets back with the MC and they eventually fix up their life almost life nothing happened at all would likely hit him even worse, because the news would reach him. I have little doubt that Kurokawa and Chinnen would be petty enough to rub it in his face that his dickery failed so completely.

On a different note... another funny thing about this story is that, by modern definitions of NTR, Aida really was NTRed at the start of things. He was a close family friend of Misaki's family, he was an older brother figure to her, he loved her first, in his own twisted way... and then MC rolls in and steals her away from right under his nose. Written a little differently, it could have been a revenge story where Aida did indeed win back what was rightfully his. What's even MORE funny, at least to me, is that I think that if he was more forward with some things earlier on and didn't play stupid games, he could have gotten Misaki in his bed before MC ever appeared in his life, and she'd have totally been his perfect slut AND happy about it all in the long run.

Amazing just how much nuance there is in this hentai VN.
Thank you! Happy New Year to you too and everyone here! You do make a good point that those initial dead-ends were a bit introductory and tutorial-like and lacked too much information as they were not the focus of the story or canon endings, and in some cases were extended on and better explained in further endings.

I definitely agree that FIN 2 is probably the canon ending as there are many hints throughout the story that tell you that FIN 2 is the right path and you practically get called an idiot if you pick wrong. In various parts of the FIN 1 route you get called out for giving up on Misaki. Shiobara, Kurokawa, and the MC wonders it really was the best idea to give up on her so soon. Then, we of course see that she didn't give up on the MC and still wished to be his wife and only his wife. While in the beginning of the FIN 2 route, in that dream sequence of being trapped, you actually find the key and solve the trapped dream successfully, which is a big hint already. If you meet her and choose not to forgive her, even the MC made the realization that he was an idiot and wished to go back in time and tell his younger self not to give up on Misaki...

Yes, definitely unlike other NTR bastards, Aida failed spectacularly or Misaki was too strong or too loyal to fully break, even if it initially seemed like he succeeded. Pleasure doesn't rule her heart, only her body.

Yep, Kurokawa and Chinnen would rub it in. Yes, Aida was NTRed from a certain point of view since he saw her and loved her first, so he has dibs. True, he might have succeeded before the MC enters the story if he was luckier or tried a different strategy or never recruited the MC for the job, that was his biggest mistake. And if that happened he would have gotten his chance to break her fully, since without her knowing the MC, she would have little reason to resist, and he would dominate, conquer, and tame her. It would be doubtful for the MC to win her heart at that point, if they even ever met.
 
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Sinrare

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Am I missing something? After she gets drunk in the party, i have the option of playing the game over again or playing another game? Where is the rest of the story?
 

stupid_army

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Am I missing something? After she gets drunk in the party, i have the option of playing the game over again or playing another game? Where is the rest of the story?
Read the walkthrough . I think you pick wrong choice in part one.
 
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Iexist

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Am I missing something? After she gets drunk in the party, i have the option of playing the game over again or playing another game? Where is the rest of the story?
If you correctly finish the first sequence of the game, the second section of "What she did, what was done to me" will open up, and you'll be sent back to the main menu, where you're supposed to select this section to continue the story. Then when that section is done, the next one will open. Then when that one's done, the last and final section of the story will open up. The story is basically split into 4 chapters, focusing on 4 different things.

Much like the guy above me said, I genuinely recommend using the walkthrough, because the trigger system for this VN is a tad convoluted and you'll waste quite a bit of time messing around with it to get everything out of it. Though I suppose you don't have too if you have a lot of time on your hands.
 

Lex Thorson

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Am I missing something? After she gets drunk in the party, i have the option of playing the game over again or playing another game? Where is the rest of the story?
Yes, what the others said. If your stuck with only Chapter 1 in the Main Menu then it could be that you picked the wrong choice and thus should consult the walkthrough. If, however, you do have Chapter 2 unlocked, then that is the continuation you should choose. While it may seem, initially, like it's skipping to a different story or a different game with different characters. It will all make sense later. You probably want to know what happened after Misaki was drunk, just as I did, and you will. You just need to be a little patient.
 

Sinrare

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If, however, you do have Chapter 2 unlocked, then that is the continuation you should choose. While it may seem, initially, like it's skipping to a different story or a different game with different characters.
That's exactly it. Thank you, that's so strange.
 

stupid_army

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do you know a site like seaart.ai, but fully open to nsfw? (not only for anime)
yodayo.com?

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Didn't realize the model author also make Sakimi model before
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