What makes/breaks a game for you?

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Dr PinkCake

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On the topic of player choices in game, I've been running into this one lately that really bugs me. Pick A or B? Okay, I pick B. Wrong! That was stupid, we are doing A! Okay, well fucking don't let me pick it. The ones that really bug me are when they seem like arbitrary choices. Like outfit A or outfit B? I dunno, they are both kind of sexy, but not risque, so B. God, you're a pig, I'm wearing outfit A. (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

One place this type of thing just skates by as being acceptable is "how far can you go?" Rub her ass / Stop -> Rub her Pussy / Stop. At least in this scenario, I know one option is testing the limits and I know the other option is safe. So in that sense I can forgive it. I still don't really like being given this choice in the dark. Like I want some indicators. (She seems to be really enjoying it) or (She seems a bit nervous). But don't you fucking trick me with this shit (She seems to be enjoying it.) -pick rub her pussy- "What the fuck, asshole?" (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
I agree. In my mind options given to the player should not result in game over and should serve an actual purpose. Look at all Telltale games. Every choice is meaningful, their consequences can be hard to predict and it feels very engaging.
 

rin-aid

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I tend to stay away from games that include:

1. Incest and/or beastiality- Family and animals are a no-go for me

2. Lolicon and/or shotacon- character age and/or the fact that it's just "creative work" can never justify an interest in seeing child-like images in a sexual way.

3. Extreme fetishes, depravity, and corruption. Many of Lillith's games are prime examples and then some because of the endings.

4. Rape and blackmail. Gomly1980 stated the reasons best.

I'll admit that I have a few exceptions like Rune's Pharmacy (I can bypass a lot of what dislike) and Monster Girl Quest (losing is mostly an option in that game), but I prefer games without those aspects in it. Otherwise, I'll play the game if the storyline and artwork is good.
 

GuyFreely

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Sorry if this is off-topic a bit, but I'm curious about the people for whom incest breaks the game. Does the circumstances of incest-adjacent content change anything? For example, if it's a step-mother, step-sister meaning there is no blood relation, is that different? If the MC is simply a house guest, no relation at all, is that acceptable?

I guess my point is that in all three scenarios (family, step-family, house guest) you could have the MC be an 18yo guy who lives with an older woman and one or more girls/women closer in age to the MC. Is context everything? Is it shit like "oh my mom's tits are so hot" that puts you off? If it's just "Linda's tits are so hot" does that let you enjoy it? Would some pronoun swapping be enough? Serious question.
 

rin-aid

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Sorry if this is off-topic a bit, but I'm curious about the people for whom incest breaks the game. Does the circumstances of incest-adjacent content change anything? For example, if it's a step-mother, step-sister meaning there is no blood relation, is that different? If the MC is simply a house guest, no relation at all, is that acceptable?

I guess my point is that in all three scenarios (family, step-family, house guest) you could have the MC be an 18yo guy who lives with an older woman and one or more girls/women closer in age to the MC. Is context everything? Is it shit like "oh my mom's tits are so hot" that puts you off? If it's just "Linda's tits are so hot" does that let you enjoy it? Would some pronoun swapping be enough? Serious question.
Incest, with me, is a violation of family code regardless of blood relations or not. If you're family, you are family! That's not to say that I do not understand the situations where person A grew up with person B (or even just spent some time person B) and eventually fell for them. I can respect that it happens in life and I respect the games that take the time to flesh out the story and depth behind the situation. I just can't respect a videogame that uses flimsy excuses (ex: he's / she's been looking hot for a while) just to get family members in the sack. I also don't care for the more creative excuses either (mind-breaks, hypnosis, spells, etc).
 

spambot

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Sorry if this is off-topic a bit, but I'm curious about the people for whom incest breaks the game. Does the circumstances of incest-adjacent content change anything? For example, if it's a step-mother, step-sister meaning there is no blood relation, is that different? If the MC is simply a house guest, no relation at all, is that acceptable?

I guess my point is that in all three scenarios (family, step-family, house guest) you could have the MC be an 18yo guy who lives with an older woman and one or more girls/women closer in age to the MC. Is context everything? Is it shit like "oh my mom's tits are so hot" that puts you off? If it's just "Linda's tits are so hot" does that let you enjoy it? Would some pronoun swapping be enough? Serious question.
Step relations only makes a difference if the characters involved are both clearly adults (look at least mid 20s) and did not grow up together. Housemates and guests are far more palatable even if the result is often cringy in that how-can-I-pay-the-pizzaguy sort of way. It IS porn after all so bad writing is to be expected. Besides, from what I've seen, most of the characters in incest games don't even look remotely related, so a simple pronoun change is often enough for people turn off by incest.

Now, the main protagonists in these games often being extremely creepy, incest or not, is an entirely different matter...
 

spambot

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To respond to the OP, I'm sure there are countless trauma-inducing fetishes I luckily don't even know about. Among those I have seen, my biggest turnoffs are

1) Exaggerated proportions
2) Underage-looking characters
3) Incest
4) Extreme violence (basically anything that leaves more than a slight mark)
5) Misogyny

What I mean by 5) is misogyny that seeps through outside sex scenes. My main fetish is BDSM but only in a strictly sexual context. Spanking, tying each other up, rough sex are all great and fun in the bedroom but I have no tolerance for bigotry elsewhere. Off-hand comments and attitudes from characters about "a woman's place" or slut-shaming only reflect badly on the ideology of the developers themselves.
 
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CheekyGimp

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Turn-offs for me:
NTR (No issues if the MC is fucking someone elses girl, but I do not want to watch some douche fucking the MC's girl)
Tentacles (i just do not get it)
Inconsistency between sexual encounters, e.g. a character that sucks your cock one day, and then has a shit-fit the following day if you touch their ass / kiss
Or not behaving differently based on previous choices (or at least mentioning the choices), e.g. after hours of grinding, you finally fuck a character and then when you speak to them the next day, they just give you their normal routine answers (as per previous days) without even commenting on the fact that you fucked.
Under-age looking characters
Grind ! ( repetition of the same task over and over just to increase a stat)

Turn-ons
Slow build-up
I know we shouldn't, but I cannot help it scenarios.
Multiple characters.
Natural dialog (characters should speak like real people, not like a 4 year old's story-book)
Some humour. Or any type of emotion in story / dialog.
Freedom to play to your own personality, i.e (perv, voyeur , nice guy, rough/gentle lover) without being forced into a particular trope.
The ability to tell a female character to fuck off, instead of fucking them (if you're just not into that particular character)
FFM
 

Power Broker

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Game breakers:
Internet connection required: your game can be a masterpiece, if it requires an internet connection I'm not playing it.

Apart from that, there are no real game breakers, just things that add or subtract to the appeal of the game. If the negative things are too much, I'm not trying it.
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MrGhostRider

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Breaks the game

* Massive un-realistic tits
* Pointless Grinding
* Wrong Game Engine
* Needlessly big game size
* Fighting

Makes the game

* Corruption
* Pure to Slut
* Good Art
* Girl PC
* RL Photos in game
 
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Game breakers:

Huge tits - meh
Boring grinds - I don't expect great gameplay from these types of games but if it makes you wander in a featureless dungeon for 10 mins between anything remotely interesting happening.. fuck that.
Too much scat or incest - I can just ignore gross things for a while but at some point its too much.
Gore or mutilation - red bums from spanking is about as far as I go, the moment limbs start coming off, I'm gone lol

Game makers:

I like a good plot twist, poetic justice, good artwork, good gameplay.. pretty generic I guess.
 
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Namco15

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Makes the game : when I can choose sex and name of my MC

Breaks the game : when I need to constantly see a walkthrough sad2.gif
 
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Karmadjan

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If you asked about fetishes:

A good "game maker" would be corruption, at least for me. Corruption requires a good writing and argumentation. It needs to go at a progressive pace and it needs to be reasonable and convincing. Corruption is something that goes from white to black, sweet to spicy, gradually picking the spectator's heart into a fire that slowly burns a wood. It's not easy to build and it can easily fail due to the author's unpatience and inexperience.

Now, a game breaker would be anything related to furry. I just can't stand cartoonish humanoid animals doing dirty things. Everything about furries, for me, colects the worst aspects of everything a game doesn't need to have: bad art, bad writing, bad plot, bad dialogs, bad ending. It always resumes itself into a nightmarish piece of art that should never come to existence.
 

Domiek

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I enjoy good pacing and pushing the boundary. The most enjoyable parts of a game for me is the beginning/ middle where a female characters defenses/morals/etc get whittled down. Later on when it's essentially nothing more than just mindless sex scenes i lose interest because at that point i can simply watch porn. I like seeing a buildup and progression.
 

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forceable rape of main character or travel companions. If you can avoid it fine by me but if it's unavoidable than i just quite. And i like to choose who i have sex with. With a male protagonist i'm more okay with it but if i play as a female protagonist i usally only do lesbian routes. So if it's makes me have sex with a dude i usally stop playing.
 
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Galavan

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Makes a game:
Incest
Feet
Adult Characters
Anal
Good Story

Breaks a game:
NTR
Cockholding
Cheating
Child age Characters
Rape
Too much grinding
 

desmosome

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Just like how some people cannot understand NTR, I absolutely do not understand the appeal of futa/shemale and transformation stuff. Its a bit jarring, because like 90% of the art collections seem to be futa, and 90% of HTML games seem to be transformation.
 

GuyFreely

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Just like how some people cannot understand NTR, I absolutely do not understand the appeal of futa/shemale and transformation stuff. Its a bit jarring, because like 90% of the art collections seem to be futa, and 90% of HTML games seem to be transformation.
Bit of a tangent here, but here's my take on futa content. If you enjoy looking at nude women, it makes some sense you might enjoy two nude women having sex with each other. Lesbian content is fairly popular with a lot of straight men, for example. The "problem" with a lesbian scene is that they can't penetrate each other as in straight sex. The natural inclination was to use dildos and strap-ons to simulate this penetration. We know, however, that the woman wielding the strap-on has no sensation in the dildo part even if it is somehow stimulating her indirectly. So what if the woman could feel the dildo? What if it was a penis? Now a guy can relate to the sex vicariously through the penis even though it's two women. There ya go, we got futa. It's a sort of have your cake and eat it too scenario.

TLDR: Futa lets two women fuck each other with full penetration and sensation.
 
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baneini

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Bit of a tangent here, but here's my take on futa content.
You could also have a guy fucking a woman scene.
Wouldn't need magic, would get to enjoy seeing a naked woman getting fucked and you'd be spared of the utter boredom that is 2 women awkwardly rubbing against each other for "sex". Can't see any disadvantages to a futa scene.