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When you have a high dedication for hating loli content. That you unironically falsely accused an artist for making such content to justify them getting arrested.
 

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edit : I always find it funny when people claim porn is truly "illegal" there, when we got companies making porn figs openly there like these
It is illegal by definition. Whether it is enforced is another argument. Just like how weed in the US is still illegal at a federal level. At any time, if they so chose to, the DOJ can shut down every "legal" dispensary and arrest everyone. Just because the states and these shops openly publicize themselves doesn't make it any less federally illegal.
 

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Being China if he had paid his taxes on the income they probably would of left him alone to keep the money rolling in.
 
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When you have a high dedication for hating loli content. That you unironically falsely accused an artist for making such content to justify them getting arrested.
why would this loser use some random ass picture of a genshin girl instead of just grabbing from his animation bruh. legit lame ass coom bait thumbnail.
 
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Being China if he had paid his taxes on the income they probably would of left him alone to keep the money rolling in.
Or just like A*T , just go overseas
From what I heard A** is on Japan
He have his own website , have dubbing , have opened a commission
And he is still fine~

China suck:ROFLMAO:
 

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It is illegal by definition. Whether it is enforced is another argument. Just like how weed in the US is still illegal at a federal level. At any time, if they so chose to, the DOJ can shut down every "legal" dispensary and arrest everyone. Just because the states and these shops openly publicize themselves doesn't make it any less federally illegal.
My point is alot of times these are white elephant laws made to appease the conservative, only used as a premise when they need to strike someone down. Espeically in Asia, even my country does the same thing.

People spreading "china bad" because of minority cases like this are just ridiculous. Isn't that simply being xenophobic and spreading hyperbole and hate.

But of course if we are to make comparisons and a list of "which country is best for porn production", china definitely isn't on the top
 
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My point is alot of times these are white elephant laws made to appease the conservative, only used as a premise when they need to strike someone down. Espeically in Asia, even my country does the same thing.

People spreading "china bad" because of minority cases like this are just ridiculous. Isn't that simply being xenophobic and spreading hyperbole and hate.

But of course if we are to make comparisons and a list of "which country is best for porn production", china definitely isn't on the top
be honest ,you dont konw anything about china, ”conservative“?hahahahah 。if you konw anything china you won't say such word。as a chinse this is so ridiculous i dont even konw how to disprove
 

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It is illegal by definition. Whether it is enforced is another argument. Just like how weed in the US is still illegal at a federal level. At any time, if they so chose to, the DOJ can shut down every "legal" dispensary and arrest everyone. Just because the states and these shops openly publicize themselves doesn't make it any less federally illegal.
actually is quite different ,first of all we dont konw this NSFW content is from taiwan or hk even American , second china isnt a federal contry ,the law about country is the only law ,About those law in province is barely meanless ,at least i dont konw any thing about my province got any different between national law。 if you ask is there nswf content from main land of china the answer is yes(and they dont pay tax)。 but like first we dont konw where is these guy from and even we know it from china 。ccp wont use so many resources to handle this nsfw content(we baned from fire wall) ,and the influence is really bad (if they care),after all china not even a country ruled by law ,As we often say 睁一只眼闭一只眼,it dont enforced it doesn't mena it legal,they dont care and pretend it doesn't exist if not hurt their main core interests , and people also konw how is the contry real work 。sorry my english is bad i dont real konw how to explain with english it realy complicated ,but iam sure pewpewsmurf dont konw anything about china。 idont konw why he pretend he konw much and try to be neutral
 
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Muting this thread for 10 years for when Shirakami is released and there's a possibility of there being more content from him again (if he's convicted and if he moves somewhere else after)
 

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be honest ,you dont konw anything about china, ”conservative“?hahahahah 。if you konw anything china you won't say such word。as a chinse this is so ridiculous i dont even konw how to disprove
be honest about what? It's pure facts that they even openly held events for nsfw stuff, as long as they are censored in public. Just scroll through that twitter account post and you can see they particpated in wonderfest event in SHANGHAI years back. There are even figure reviwers on Bilibili as long as they censor the figures. Were they caught? Nope

first of all we dont konw this NSFW content is from taiwan or hk even American
This particular brand was formed in Guangdong back in 2019, China. Heck as I said already most japanese 18+ figures are made in china. Not HK, not TW.

You literally said most of the time it's just being ignored 睁一只眼闭一只眼 , isn't that what I was saying. White elephant laws.
In the books, yes it's illegal. But you yourself said they don't go around wasting resources catching every single person, basically just further elaborating on what I said. Don't do stupid shit, don't get unneeded attention, go your way.

Conservative laws, Capitalist nation. Welcome to Asia

idont konw why he pretend he konw much and try to be neutral
Maybe because China isn't really that bad? Isn't that your own country, so you are just here to shit on it yourself?
 
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actually is quite different ,first of all we dont konw this NSFW content is from taiwan or hk even American , second china isnt a federal contry ,the law about country is the only law ,About those law in province is barely meanless ,at least i dont konw any thing about my province got any different between national law。 if you ask is there nswf content from main land of china the answer is yes(and they dont pay tax)。 but like first we dont konw where is these guy from and even we know it from china 。ccp wont use so many resources to handle this nsfw content(we baned from fire wall) ,and the influence is really bad (if they care),after all china not even a country ruled by law ,As we often say 睁一只眼闭一只眼,it dont enforced it doesn't mena it legal,they dont care and pretend it doesn't exist if not hurt their main core interests , and people also konw how is the contry real work 。sorry my english is bad i dont real konw how to explain with english it realy complicated ,but iam sure pewpewsmurf dont konw anything about china。 idont konw why he pretend he konw much and try to be neutral
stop using chnglish.
"Keep silent and make money" is the only law of survival in china
 
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be honest about what? It's pure facts that they even openly held events for nsfw stuff, as long as they are censored in public. Just scroll through that twitter account post and you can see they particpated in wonderfest event in SHANGHAI years back. There are even figure reviwers on Bilibili as long as they censor the figures. Were they caught? Nope


This particular brand was formed in Guangdong back in 2019, China. Heck as I said already most japanese 18+ figures are made in china. Not HK, not TW.

You literally said most of the time it's just being ignored 睁一只眼闭一只眼 , isn't that what I was saying. White elephant laws.
In the books, yes it's illegal. But you yourself said they don't go around wasting resources catching every single person, basically just further elaborating on what I said. Don't do stupid shit, don't get unneeded attention, go your way.

Conservative laws, Capitalist nation. Welcome to Asia


Maybe because China isn't really that bad? Isn't that your own country, so you are just here to shit on it yourself?
《关于惩治走私、制作、贩卖、传播淫秽物品的犯罪分子的决定》
《关于严禁淫秽物品的规定》
it say : 海关要加强进出口环节的查禁工作。凡携带、邮寄或走私入境的淫秽物品,由海关一律予以没收,并可对当事人处以罚款。对情节严重的,由公安、司法机关依法惩处。 the export not include in so the figure it legal if you ask the twitter account i guess it running on hk or pretend it running on hk (the twitter name and profile it traditional Chinese only use in hk and taiwan and 澳门 )about the events ;it say : 具体描写性行为或露骨宣扬色情淫荡形象的录像带、录音带、影片、电视片、幻灯片、照片、图画、书籍、报刊、抄本,印有这类图照的玩具、用品,以及淫药、淫具。it say: like Videotapes, audiotapes, films, TV shows, slides, photographs it illegal, like adlut doll figure masturbation cup it legal so you cant find av in that place at least i cant find it(ihaven't been there)。 that is what i find sorry iam not a expert about law if you can find it illegal please tell me
and about White elephant laws sorry idon‘t know it special meaning as you can see my english is bad but i guess it got slightly different from 睁一只眼闭一只眼 and country without the rule of law ,the Labor Law it White elephant laws ? the constituents is White elephant laws ? like you say communism it s White elephant laws ?
All in all, maybe you can say China is not that bad, but if you search, you will find that there are many cases in China where people were sentenced for spreading NSFW content. If you are not caught, how could you know you won’t be one of them? Fear is what they want. They let us self-censor and it is still very difficult to watch porn if you don’t know how to use a VPN, even if it is legal to watch it. In a country with so much sexual depression, what do you think this place will be like? Would you like to know what it’s like for feminism, LGBT, and respect for women in this place?
Like the case you mentioned with Bilibili, I’m sure you’re not familiar with China. Maybe China isn’t really that bad? I guess it depends on your perspective. At least as a Chinese person, in my opinion, it’s a shit place that doesn’t even mention or discuss or stuff. Yeah, I’m shitting on it myself. Fuck the CCP, fuck China. (What, you can’t hate your party? Where are you from, North Korea? Russia?)
And most importantly, why are you trying to be neutral towards a man caught because of a shit law? What white elephant laws are fair? Every man has sexual desires. Use your basic gut instinct - do you think it’s fair or reasonable?
 
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《关于惩治走私、制作、贩卖、传播淫秽物品的犯罪分子的决定》
《关于严禁淫秽物品的规定》
it say : 海关要加强进出口环节的查禁工作。凡携带、邮寄或走私入境的淫秽物品,由海关一律予以没收,并可对当事人处以罚款。对情节严重的,由公安、司法机关依法惩处。 the export not include in so the figure it legal if you ask the twitter account i guess it running on hk or pretend it running on hk (the twitter name and profile it traditional Chinese only use in hk and taiwan and 澳门 )about the events ;it say : 具体描写性行为或露骨宣扬色情淫荡形象的录像带、录音带、影片、电视片、幻灯片、照片、图画、书籍、报刊、抄本,印有这类图照的玩具、用品,以及淫药、淫具。it say: like Videotapes, audiotapes, films, TV shows, slides, photographs it illegal, like adlut doll figure masturbation cup it legal so you cant find av in that place at least i cant find it(ihaven't been there)。 that is what i find sorry iam not a expert about law if you can find it illegal please tell me
and about White elephant laws sorry idon‘t know it special meaning as you can see my english is bad but i guess it got slightly different from 睁一只眼闭一只眼 and country without the rule of law ,the Labor Law it White elephant laws ? the constituents is White elephant laws ? like you say communism it s White elephant laws ?
All in all, maybe you can say China is not that bad, but if you search, you will find that there are many cases in China where people were sentenced for spreading NSFW content. If you are not caught, how could you know you won’t be one of them? Fear is what they want. They let us self-censor and it is still very difficult to watch porn if you don’t know how to use a VPN, even if it is legal to watch it. In a country with so much sexual depression, what do you think this place will be like? Would you like to know what it’s like for feminism, LGBT, and respect for women in this place?
Like the case you mentioned with Bilibili, I’m sure you’re not familiar with China. Maybe China isn’t really that bad? I guess it depends on your perspective. At least as a Chinese person, in my opinion, it’s a shit place that doesn’t even mention or discuss or stuff. Yeah, I’m shitting on it myself. Fuck the CCP, fuck China. (What, you can’t hate your party? Where are you from, North Korea? Russia?)
And most importantly, why are you trying to be neutral towards a man caught because of a shit law? What white elephant laws are fair? Every man has sexual desires. Use your basic gut instinct - do you think it’s fair or reasonable?
You probably should visit any other Asia countries and look at which actually have laws that allow porn production. Almost all of them don't support it, except Japan with their own exception due to loopholes. China isn't any special or worst just because it's illegal.

Does it stop people from making and spreading porn? Obviously no.
 
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You probably should visit any other Asia countries and look at which actually have laws that allow porn production. Almost all of them don't support it, except Japan with their own exception due to loopholes. China isn't any special or worst just because it's illegal.

Does it stop people from making and spreading porn? Obviously no.
of course it stop making and spreading ,like i say you turely dont konw anything about china stop useing you barren knowledge try to be neutral this is really embarrassed (sorry i cant choose a better word)
yeah i konw there is many shit place in Asia but you forget korean, republic of china aka taiwan(share same clture even same nation) ,hk(even part of china ) , Israel , Turkey 。hahaha hard to image there is so many contry and nation or clture in Asia right?sorry I am not sure about the specifics of other Asian countries. but idont care what like in other contry be like 。Does the backwardness of other countries hinder China’s backwardness?we are all humanbe why we cant choose more advanced systems and laws ?
 

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Hello guys.

I see interesting subject here:
"Is porn illegal in China ?"
Well porn itself isn't illegal, humain naturally needs to satisfy their sexual desire. What makes it illegal is its purpose and consequences.

be honest about what? It's pure facts that they even openly held events for nsfw stuff, as long as they are censored in public. Just scroll through that twitter account post and you can see they particpated in wonderfest event in SHANGHAI years back. There are even figure reviwers on Bilibili as long as they censor the figures. Were they caught? Nope
This is true :
Selling sex toy isn't illegal in China because its purpose isn't bad (why ? it's your philosophic test, you have 4 hours), either its consequences (not yet ?).

Another interesting thing is "Adult doll experience hotel" : . You pay 168RMB (21€) for an hour to do whatever you want with a sex doll. And this activity is legal.

3 years ago, I heard an organisation being arrested because they were forcing girl to making pornography.
1 years ago, I heard another organisation being arrested because they were producing massive pornography and making tremendous profits. ( the organisation is called "Madou" : )
This time, it seems to not have a bad purpose and bad consequence but, on social media, the most loud saying are "Well done, this harmful people are finally arrested...", "These girls should have shame about themselves...", of course there were people who's sad about it but most are saying "Go to jail to think how to make good porns ...".

You guys may have noticed, most of Chinese people were not that "open" on sex, especially on the old generation (~ 40 years old) because they were grown up under an era where the government was very "strict". Sex education's importance was payed lately, before some of young girl don't even know how to handle their period.
But the thing is changing, you have selling of almost naked figurine, cam girl, increasing of gay, trans, lesb, furry, kigurumi and Walmart bag in open public and on social media.

Return to our Shirakami.
Does he had a bad purpose while making Nilou porn ?
Does one of us fainted by faping over a night because Nilou's animation is fucking good ?
Does one of us being degenerated with "Waiting for XXX" ?
Does one of us being depraved a whole week to watching porn ?
Does he evade taxes ?

It seems more reasonable to arrest him with tax evasion rather than making profit by spreading pornography.
He can hire a lawyer to defend that he is not committing a crime while making his 3D animation as some of you may want, but he didn't, maybe because he is just a normal person who dont want to start a revolution asking for legal forgiveness ? maybe he fears the governement ? or maybe he consider he is doing a bad thing ?

Rational speaking, he is not doing a very bad thing, except for not paying taxes (on the governement side), I think the result wont be catastrophic for our Shirakami.
 

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iam sorry Do you think that Asia and Africa are the same, in that they are very backward due to political, geographical, and historical reasons, so much so that only Japan has a somewhat incomplete legal system? Also, you should study some about comparative politics. god why i have to explain about thos basic stuff, Did your school not teach logic, like in China?
I don't even get your point at all.

Anyone can easily look up new articles about porn creators arrested in China and see how they even got arrested. Alot of times it's because they are reported by the public because they felt offended, not because the government went and knock on their door themselves unless they did some silly mistake like in Shirakami's case. The conservative laws are created to appease the conservative nature of us Asians, it's only logical. The government is just there to collect taxes, they don't really care.

That comment above by luewh pretty much summed it up.
 
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He can hire a lawyer to defend that he is not committing a crime while making his 3D animation as some of you may want...
Idk, fella.

But, hiring a lawyer for tax evasion is a bit gambling. Once the government has solid-proof / evidence that he did tax evasion, there's nothing else he can deny on the court.

And same goes with my country, government will only force taxation towards people with very huge amount of income. NSFW artist with hardly any income are safe from the gov's tax watchlist.
 
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Hello guys.

I see interesting subject here:
"Is porn illegal in China ?"
Well porn itself isn't illegal, humain naturally needs to satisfy their sexual desire. What makes it illegal is its purpose and consequences.


This is true :
Selling sex toy isn't illegal in China because its purpose isn't bad (why ? it's your philosophic test, you have 4 hours), either its consequences (not yet ?).

Another interesting thing is "Adult doll experience hotel" : . You pay 168RMB (21€) for an hour to do whatever you want with a sex doll. And this activity is legal.

3 years ago, I heard an organisation being arrested because they were forcing girl to making pornography.
1 years ago, I heard another organisation being arrested because they were producing massive pornography and making tremendous profits. ( the organisation is called "Madou" : )
This time, it seems to not have a bad purpose and bad consequence but, on social media, the most loud saying are "Well done, this harmful people are finally arrested...", "These girls should have shame about themselves...", of course there were people who's sad about it but most are saying "Go to jail to think how to make good porns ...".

You guys may have noticed, most of Chinese people were not that "open" on sex, especially on the old generation (~ 40 years old) because they were grown up under an era where the government was very "strict". Sex education's importance was payed lately, before some of young girl don't even know how to handle their period.
But the thing is changing, you have selling of almost naked figurine, cam girl, increasing of gay, trans, lesb, furry, kigurumi and Walmart bag in open public and on social media.

Return to our Shirakami.
Does he had a bad purpose while making Nilou porn ?
Does one of us fainted by faping over a night because Nilou's animation is fucking good ?
Does one of us being degenerated with "Waiting for XXX" ?
Does one of us being depraved a whole week to watching porn ?
Does he evade taxes ?

It seems more reasonable to arrest him with tax evasion rather than making profit by spreading pornography.
He can hire a lawyer to defend that he is not committing a crime while making his 3D animation as some of you may want, but he didn't, maybe because he is just a normal person who dont want to start a revolution asking for legal forgiveness ? maybe he fears the governement ? or maybe he consider he is doing a bad thing ?

Rational speaking, he is not doing a very bad thing, except for not paying taxes (on the governement side), I think the result wont be catastrophic for our Shirakami.
very good summed ! It’s clear that you know a lot about China,and I would like to add that the taxation in China is very different from that in the United States, so please do not equate them simply. i try to explain it in page 35, It’s not just about the law, but also about culture, customs, and political systems.
 
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very good summed ! It’s clear that you know a lot about China,and I would like to add that the taxation in China is very different from that in the United States, so please do not equate them simply. i try to explain it in page 35, It’s not just about the law, but also about culture, customs, and political systems.
Isn't that what I had been saying from the very start.

be honest ,you dont konw anything about china, ”conservative“?hahahahah 。if you konw anything china you won't say such word。as a chinse this is so ridiculous i dont even konw how to disprove
Maybe you need to look up the dictionary what "conservative" means.
 
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