Does anyone here actually like ugly bastard in hentai?

[215303j]

Rape is actually a very common fantasy for a lot of women. That doesn't mean they actually want to be raped in real life, but there is nothing wrong with having fantasies, like in the VIDEO GAMES we play on this website.

Sure, that's the benefit of video games.

Also, are we supposed to shoot you when you have sex with your girlfriend after she had some wine or are you one of those that insist on filling out a contract before every coitus?

Of course not. But I do think that people are likely to make bad choices when drunk and I have the scars to prove that. If a man has sex with a drunk woman (or man) it's pretty hard to argue consent because they are not in a position to consent to anything. Like an underaged person, they are not likely to understand the consequences of their actions. Which is more or less the definition of consent.

 

[fitgirlbestgirl]

Of course not. But I do think that people are likely to make bad choices when drunk and I have the scars to prove that. If a man has sex with a drunk woman (or man) it's pretty hard to argue consent because they are not in a position to consent to anything. Like an underaged person, they are not likely to understand the consequences of their actions. Which is more or less the definition of consent.

That's not how alcohol works, unless you are literally talking about being black out drunk. When you get drunk and decide to rob a store and crash your car into a house you can't just go "sorry guys, but I make bad choices when I'm drunk and don't understand the consequences of my actions," you're still going to jail. And if you become that irresponsible and out of control on alcohol you probably just shouldn't have any in the first place.

 

[polywog]

Rape is actually a very common fantasy for a lot of women. That doesn't mean they actually want to be raped in real life, but there is nothing wrong with having fantasies, like in the VIDEO GAMES we play on this website.

Also, are we supposed to shoot you when you have sex with your girlfriend after she had some wine or are you one of those that insist on filling out a contract before every coitus?

Rape fantasy, is a byproduct of a society. A society which teaches young ladies that they have to be proper, and respectable, they have to repress their animal desires to be normal. It is very common for women to fantasize, to escape the hellish nightmare of society and return to an age where men were not corrupted by this society either, where a man took what he wanted savagely, and women loved every minute of it.
Fantasy escapes the consequences of reality, Getting drunk does not.
Far too often young women want to be full filled, but don't want to be branded a slut by society. So they use alcohol as an excuse. It's not my fault, I was drunk. Half of their regret stems from the alcohol interfering with the enjoyment of their orgasms.

 

[215303j]

That's not how alcohol works, unless you are literally talking about being black out drunk. When you get drunk and decide to rob a store and crash your car into a house you can't just go "sorry guys, but I make bad choices when I'm drunk and don't understand the consequences of my actions," you're still going to jail. And if you become that irresponsible and out of control on alcohol you probably just shouldn't have any in the first place.

Yes. And you are also stay pregnant (unless you get an abortion).

A "little bit" of alcohol loosens some inhibitions. If that leads to a fun evening, including consentual sex, that's of course fine.

A bit more alcohol (aka drunk) leads people in positions that can be potentially dangerous. They end up in the wrong places, can't find their homes anymore, talk to the wrong people etc. A guy can get into some silly fight and get beaten up. A girl can meet the wrong guy in the wrong place and get raped.

Even more alcohol and you wake up in the emergency room at the hospital, maybe that's preferable to getting raped.

Believe me, I have experienced all of the above except that I'm a guy and therefore (?) not raped. The first stage is perfectly fine. The second stage is also fine as long as you make sure somehow that you are safe (e.g. be with some thrustworthy friends). The third stage, well...

The problem in the discussion about consent is the line between the first and second stage.

 

[lexlutha]

To be honest with you guys in response to the original question asked about "Ugly Bastard" hentai I would like to try and answer speaking only for myself and not anyone else who might like the "Ugly Bastard" tag in their storylines.

For me it's an easily explained attraction in my opinion. I'm actually a really handsome guy; born and raised in California, I've had pretty girlfriends all my life; all my homeboys white, black, Mexican, etc (the guys I grew up with) are all guys I know are considered great looking. We were the kool kids and not to come off too conceited but I was the proverbial California golden-boy. Even in the Army I was the poster boy for my platoon or who my Command and Sgts wanted seen. Where for me (only speaking for myself) hentai or porn with characters with model good looks or average looking people doesn't really excite me anymore because that's always been my actual day to day life/grind; and in real life who I associate with and will associate with for the foreseeable future.

Both my parents now in their 60's are still both really good looking and wherever we go we're stopped and people compliment us from airport personnel, to airport shuttle bus drivers, to just random people when we're out shopping or having dinner. I've always been their good looking son the only child they got complimented on since Kindergarten; when 3 or 4 teachers surrounded my Mom and told her "he's just dreamy" his eye's look unreal, he's gonna be a little heartbreaker or actually even the nurses in the hospital fawned over me...

So good-looking people having sex isn't some out of reach goal where its something I need to turn to porn or hentai to see or witness or fantasize about. The hottest porn starlets might be the hottest chick some guys in the boondocks can imagine but to me and my homies shes just some average looking slut that got done up in make-up that they push as a really beautiful sex symbol.

So what I like in porn is to see the other side of life, something I don't see or get in my own sex life. I like watching "Ugly Bastards" fuck the supposed porn star hot chicks to the frumpy housewives (mainly seen in JAV). That's whats erotic or fantasy to me. Some guys like age play and watching old vs young, some like BDSM or power exchange... Some young guys like watching mature chicks because as a young man some mature older cougar is the unknown or a fantasy and that's whats erotic to them. For me watching some fat, out of shape, greasy, acne covered nerd or fat old balding smegma encrusted letch defiling some chick that would claim she would never let a guy like that touch her is hot to me. Its a taste of the unknown or the "FORBIDDEN FRUIT".

However if Stormy Daniels or whatever pornstar is the hottest woman you've ever seen or way above your pay grade of chicks in your league then I can somewhat understand how seeing these "hot chicks" or "10's" (even animated or in some hentai) getting fucked by some ugly bastard might be upsetting to you when you yourself could never hope to get a girl like that or would treat her like gold if you could get a "hot" porn star like _____ ____ (insert whoever) but for me its just boring now watching some supposedly good looking guy fucking some supposed to be hot porn slut or hentai princess. Really vanilla and plain to me. That type of "fantasy" is just dry or the opposite of juicy or hot to me. I could look in the mirror while fucking any day I want if I wanted to see two really beautiful people having sex. Anyways just my opinion and my two cents on the "Ugly Bastard" topic/tag; my taste change all the time, but looking back on my taste in Hentai, the games here, and JAV etc... the "Ugly Bastard" theme is something I've got off on for quite a long time.

link to one of my favorite "Ugly Bastard" porn sites:

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[desmosome]

To be honest with you guys in response to the original question asked about "Ugly Bastard" hentai I would like to try and answer speaking only for myself and not anyone else who might like the "Ugly Bastard" tag in their storylines.

For me it's an easily explained attraction in my opinion. I'm actually a really handsome guy; born and raised in California, I've had pretty girlfriends all my life; all my homeboys white, black, Mexican, etc (the guys I grew up with) are all guys I know are considered great looking. We were the kool kids and not to come off too conceited but I was the proverbial California golden-boy. Even in the Army I was the poster boy for my platoon or who my Command and Sgts wanted seen. Where for me (only speaking for myself) hentai or porn with characters with model good looks or average looking people doesn't really excite me anymore because that's always been my actual day to day life/grind; and in real life who I associate with and will associate with for the foreseeable future.

Both my parents now in their 60's are still both really good looking and wherever we go we're stopped and people compliment us from airport personnel, to airport shuttle bus drivers, to just random people when we're out shopping or having dinner. I've always been their good looking son the only child they got complimented on since Kindergarten; when 3 or 4 teachers surrounded my Mom and told her "he's just dreamy" his eye's look unreal, he's gonna be a little heartbreaker or actually even the nurses in the hospital fawned over me...

So good-looking people having sex isn't some out of reach goal where its something I need to turn to porn or hentai to see or witness or fantasize about. The hottest porn starlets might be the hottest chick some guys in the boondocks can imagine but to me and my homies shes just some average looking slut that got done up in make-up that they push as a really beautiful sex symbol.

So what I like in porn is to see the other side of life, something I don't see or get in my own sex life. I like watching "Ugly Bastards" fuck the supposed porn star hot chicks to the frumpy housewives (mainly seen in JAV). That's whats erotic or fantasy to me. Some guys like age play and watching old vs young, some like BDSM or power exchange... Some young guys like watching mature chicks because as a young man some mature older cougar is the unknown or a fantasy and that's whats erotic to them. For me watching some fat, out of shape, greasy, acne covered nerd or fat old balding smegma encrusted letch defiling some chick that would claim she would never let a guy like that touch her is hot to me. Its a taste of the unknown or the "FORBIDDEN FRUIT".

However if Stormy Daniels or whatever pornstar is the hottest woman you've ever seen or way above your pay grade of chicks in your league then I can somewhat understand how seeing these "hot chicks" or "10's" (even animated or in some hentai) getting fucked by some ugly bastard might be upsetting to you when you yourself could never hope to get a girl like that or would treat her like gold if you could get a "hot" porn star like _____ ____ (insert whoever) but for me its just boring now watching some supposedly good looking guy fucking some supposed to be hot porn slut or hentai princess. Really vanilla and plain to me. That type of "fantasy" is just dry or the opposite of juicy or hot to me. I could look in the mirror while fucking any day I want if I wanted to see two really beautiful people having sex. Anyways just my opinion and my two cents on the "Ugly Bastard" topic/tag; my taste change all the time, but looking back on my taste in Hentai, the games here, and JAV etc... the "Ugly Bastard" theme is something I've got off on for quite a long time.

link to one of my favorite "Ugly Bastard" porn sites:

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Oh ok, so people who hate this trope are just ugly bastards themselves. Got it.

 

[xort]

The Ugly Bastard completes a balance between the genders.
Turning all women into sexual pleasure seekers, without care for their partners attractiveness, social standing or wealth.

It's a fantasy for men to view women being displaced from the controllers of sexual activity.
It's a mirrored fantasy for women with classic Otome games with men being made into emotional dependents of women.

 

[Ignazzio]

It's the best type of character for an innocent female to show corruption. It's sad so few western games have this type of characters. Probably mostly because of it not being in basic DAZ package but still. Vanilla guys are usually so damn boring.

 

[tomcire]

Rape is actually a very common fantasy for a lot of women. That doesn't mean they actually want to be raped in real life, but there is nothing wrong with having fantasies, like in the VIDEO GAMES we play on this website.

Also, are we supposed to shoot you when you have sex with your girlfriend after she had some wine or are you one of those that insist on filling out a contract before every coitus?

One of the most loved scene in GOT by women is Drogo raping Daenerys.

 

[obibobi]

Not sure anyone's got it right but unless I've missed it the ugly bastard thing is just another genre where the appeal is in the girl being degraded which seems to be popular with pornographic material, same with most rape, interracial and gangbangs. Seems a lot of men seem to like to see girls get fucked in a way that's seen as disgraceful.

Even supposed NTR seems to be mostly disgrace, not sure you ever get a guy who looks like Chris Hemsworth or Henry Cavill taking the woman.

Then if you look at porn that's apparently aimed at women it will involve good looking well groomed men.

 

[DarthSeduction]

Not sure anyone's got it right but unless I've missed it the ugly bastard thing is just another genre where the appeal is in the girl being degraded which seems to be popular with pornographic material, same with most rape, interracial and gangbangs. Seems a lot of men seem to like to see girls get fucked in a way that's seen as disgraceful.

Even supposed NTR seems to be mostly disgrace, not sure you ever get a guy who looks like Chris Hemsworth or Henry Cavill taking the woman.

Then if you look at porn that's apparently aimed at women it will involve good looking well groomed men.

That's a part of it, but you're wrong in that I prefer when she revels in it. What I like isn't the disgrace, but the depravity. Things that are humiliating or disgraceful are by their very nature more depraved. As to your NTR comment, that's just plain untrue.

 

[obibobi]

That's a part of it, but you're wrong in that I prefer when she revels in it. What I like isn't the disgrace, but the depravity. Things that are humiliating or disgraceful are by their very nature more depraved. As to your NTR comment, that's just plain untrue.

But it is and you pretty much say so yourself without understanding that

"What I like isn't the disgrace, but the depravity."

The loving wife doing depraved acts degrades her and NTR is almost exclusively about the woman being a whore, the stories don't end with the woman being seen as a keeper.

 

[DarthSeduction]

But it is and you pretty much say so yourself without understanding that



The loving wife doing depraved acts degrades her and NTR is almost exclusively about the woman being a whore, the stories don't end with the woman being seen as a keeper.

I'm sorry...what? First off, I was referring to your assertion that all netori are ugly bastards, but furthermore, holy fuck that is some shit view on women. The 1950s are calling, they want their misogyny back.

Furthermore, don't claim to tell me what I do and don't understand. Enthusiastic consent is my kink. So seeing enthusiastic consent for depravity is literally hotter to me than anything else. I don't get off on rape, I don't get off on ugly bastards who a woman fucks begrudgingly. I get off on the woman's personal depravity.

 

[obibobi]

I'm sorry...what? First off, I was referring to your assertion that all netori are ugly bastards, but furthermore, holy fuck that is some shit view on women. The 1950s are calling, they want their misogyny back.

Furthermore, don't claim to tell me what I do and don't understand. Enthusiastic consent is my kink. So seeing enthusiastic consent for depravity is literally hotter to me than anything else. I don't get off on rape, I don't get off on ugly bastards who a woman fucks begrudgingly. I get off on the woman's personal depravity.

You seem to be making up parts of this in your head. I never said all NTR is ugly bastard, just the main purpose of the ugly bastard and that most NTR involves the woman degrading herself.

Also off your virtue signaling high horse, I'm talking about porn, not real life.

Well you have whatever kinks you want, that doesn't change the point I made and which failed to make any argument against instead just making non-points such as "that's not true". The main appeal of the ugly bastard is that the woman is degrading herself, these things don't normally end with her pillow talking about what a nice night she had, she gets covered in bodily fluid.

 

[DarthSeduction]

I never said all NTR is ugly bastard, just the main purpose of the ugly bastard and that most NTR involves the woman degrading herself.

not sure you ever get a guy who looks like Chris Hemsworth or Henry Cavill taking the woman.

Yeah sure, I'm reading into it.

Also off your virtue signaling high horse, I'm talking about porn, not real life.

No, that argument doesn't work here. I'm calling out the language you use here.

the stories don't end with the woman being seen as a keeper.

What about them at the end of the series devalues them insomuch that they aren't worth "keeping"? The answer is absolutely nothing. The problem isn't porn vs real life, it's your perception of women as somehow devalued by sex.

Well you have whatever kinks you want, that doesn't change the point I made and which failed to make any argument against instead just making non-points such as "that's not true". The main appeal of the ugly bastard is that the woman is degrading herself, these things don't normally end with her pillow talking about what a nice night she had, she gets covered in bodily fluid.

You see, I was never debating that for some, seeing a woman degraded is the appeal.

Not sure anyone's got it right

I was debating your certainty that your narrow view on the topic was representative of the whole. And you can't claim that it isn't your opinion, because you've now attempted twice to tell me that what I'm saying is bullshit. Open your eyes. Stop telling people that they're wrong about what their own fucking kinks are. You dropped a big "fuck you" to everyone in this thread who explained why they liked this, telling them that they are all wrong. Learn to take in new information, stop being a dick to others, and learn how to view women outside of lines of purity.

 

[obibobi]

Yeah sure, I'm reading into it.

I specifically mention other ways of NTR, so yes.

What about them at the end of the series devalues them insomuch that they aren't worth "keeping"? The answer is absolutely nothing. The problem isn't porn vs real life, it's your perception of women as somehow devalued by sex.

We are talking about the ugly bastard genre, at least remember the point before you make arguments. Yes, degrading sex with the ugly bastard degrades her, not a shocking concept and one you find surprising despite saying you enjoy the depravity.

No, that argument doesn't work here. I'm calling out the language you use here.

Yes it does because I'm talking about a genre that involves degradation, not whatever you have in your head.

You see, I was never debating that for some, seeing a woman degraded is the appeal.

No shit and that's what I said was the appeal of some for ugly bastard genre.

I was debating your certainty that your narrow view on the topic was representative of the whole. And you can't claim that it isn't your opinion, because you've now attempted twice to tell me that what I'm saying is bullshit. Open your eyes. Stop telling people that they're wrong about what their own fucking kinks are. You dropped a big "fuck you" to everyone in this thread who explained why they liked this, telling them that they are all wrong. Learn to take in new information, stop being a dick to others,

This makes no fucking sense. You say you like it because the girls degraded but I'm wrong for telling people that the main reason people like it is because the girls degraded. What you're saying is bullshit because you're making no sense.

This second time you've personally insulted me, the last time was because I said I don't like the female protagonist and that was purely my opinion which you took an issue with. You've got problems if you are going to so offended over someone analysing a sex game you resort to insults.

and learn how to view women outside of lines of purity.

High horse shit again to the point of delusion, I do in real life, hopefully you will sit back and realise there's a difference, people do get raped and killed in these games. I am simply analysing what appeal find in games and don't be a hypocrite, you find appeal in women being degraded but yet say it's wrong for others to find appeal in purity.

 

[DarthSeduction]

I specifically mention other ways of NTR, so yes.

I have taken your words as you've stated them. Let me be clear, so you can't claim any longer these silly dodges.

With regards to NTR. Your exact words were "not sure you ever get a guy who looks like Chris Hemsworth or Henry Cavill taking the woman." my response, in my initial comment was to correct that false premise. Anything else, NTR related you talked about, honestly, you're only partially correct, as degrading isn't necessary to NTR in any way. There is a corruption element to much of it, but even that doesn't necessarily mean you have to be degrading.

We are talking about the ugly bastard genre, at least remember the point before you make arguments. Yes, degrading sex with the ugly bastard degrades her, not a shocking concept and one you find surprising despite saying you enjoy the depravity.

This

Yes it does because I'm talking about a genre that involves degradation, not whatever you have in your head.

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High horse shit again to the point of delusion, I do in real life, hopefully you will sit back and realise there's a difference, people do get raped and killed in these games. I am simply analysing what appeal find in games and don't be a hypocrite, you find appeal in women being degraded but yet say it's wrong for others to find appeal in purity.

And this show you're completely misunderstanding or ignoring me.

First of all, there is no specific game about which we are speaking for you to hide behind. There is no game here saying that the woman in this hypothetical game is not a keeper. That is your language. Your personal opinion about the woman. And thus, that is what I'm calling out.

Let me be perfectly clear. A woman, by being degraded sexually, and or corrupted through NTR is not any less of a keeper than she was prior to being put through that. Again, there is no actual game in this discussion making the claim that they wouldn't be. That is all you.

As a result, you don't get to hide behind, "It's games not real life" because you weren't talking about a game, you were sharing your personal outlook. An outlook that is inherently misogynist.

This, the unapologetic misogyny and concurrent attempts to deflect, combined with your repeated even in this post, attempts to invalidate my experience and assert that your understanding of the situation is inherently universal, is what leads me to tell you to stop being a dick, you instead make yourself out to be a victim and bring up old shit I don't even remember. However, after our interactions here, I'm sure I had a good reason for whatever happened then too. You obviously don't think very highly of female sexuality, so what I called you out for on your apparent dislike of female protagonists was likely the context of your statements and not the dislike itself.

 

[Ashley young]

I feel that the ugly bastard is created to boost the moral of the reader.
"If that girl can stoop so low to fuck a fat slob like him, then maybe I also have a chance!"

It could also be that fat/ugly people (no offence) self insert to that guy, an ugly bastard having full control over other women.

The ugly bastard character is mostly featured in ntr doujins and games because apparently there is a lot of appeal about a fucking ugly nobody stealing away someone else girls with his dick. Over time, more and more doujins started to cater to the appeal, hence the ugly bastards are so common in hentai. It is similar to how most corruption/ntr doujins, games or porn feature a giant dark skinned antagonist who corrupts girls and fucks over other dudes, who are "coincidentally" white.

In any case, it's too late to steer the ship now. Ugly bastards are here to stay, and there is really nothing anyone can do to stop that.

 

[Noiremka]

Is this a BBM? Big Beautiful Man?

Dunno, I like it. Sometimes you get tired of "normies" or bishonen and want a bit of pep in story. All the more so the main rapist is moving the plot in NTR/Rape/etc doujin and every time when i see literally the beautiful man who can't be irl, i got cringe.
'cuz I realize irl that type of men won't be interested in me (sounds envy lol), so i like stories where the male is not clearly defined or unpleasant.

 

[Deviton123]

I don't mind "ugly", but I very much mind the "bastard" part of the equation.