I think they were reffering to training sims in general. A trainer game raising a daughter or the likes of it.
o.o hope u get better soon and ... the genre is like father raising daughter kinda thing ? 0///0
Still feeling like poop but here I go!
Haven't forgot about your suggestions! Just quite busy in life atm, the games are in my bookmarks tho!
If you haven't already, you can check this thread Waitress Games. But most likely you already did.
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Hearty. I take it from all these conclusions that you're a fan of Ren'Py games, which was a bit unexpected. I'm not going to write nasty things and stuff, but I'm going to end up coming to one conclusion. I don't like to write reviews of EVERYTHING and EVERYTHING IN EVERYTHING that you're talking about, but I like the excitement of intelligent conversation, so I'll put it this way: name me the top 3 Ren'py games other than Summertime saga and Teaching Feeling. If one of them is really good, I'll write a review of your ENTIRE playlist. Unravelled and beautiful - just like everyone loves.
Glad you took it, mostly, in a good way. In the middle of writing my reply I honestly thought you might take it as an insult of sort, which it isn't.
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Thanks for the detailed response. It's actually funny that the only Ren'Py games I can remember coincide with places on your Tier List that either my brain missed or myself. Thanks for the Being a DIK recommendation (with all due respect to you, I'm just afraid to touch it) and the mention of Doki-Doki (which I'd forgotten even existed on the engine). It's good to know you're among straight and mindful of classics such as Doki-Doki, but that's not really the point. I don't know if you've heard of a game like The Fixer. It's a good game (and made on Ren'Py!), which I originally thought was a winning ticket until it lost a little of its importance in the. . . aftermath.Glad you took it, mostly, in a good way. In the middle of writing my reply I honestly thought you might take it as an insult of sort, which it isn't.
I'm a fan of good ideas made into games, regardless of the engine.
But while we're on the subject, yes, Ren'py isn't an outstanding engine, it has its flaws just like any other.
A while back, I had the chance to talk with a few devs about their opinion on certain engine. The general consensus, about Ren'py, was that it was too basic, limited, and mostly a stepping stone to acquire experience and confidence to then work on other more sophisticated projects.
But, at the same time, it is known for being user-friendly and very consistent. I pointed out that it was easy to use, hence, it's easier to put your ideas into reality. Which I'm all up for.
I'm glad to see someone that's excited about this subject, you seem to have found some passion about it, but I'm not gonna humor you.
I'm not going to name the TOP 3 MOST AWESOME REN'PY GAME OF ALL TIME (Doesn't help that you took 2 great games from my list but ya know
In the first place, it wasn't my goal to dismiss your disgust of Ren'py, but more an attempt to make you realize that you'd be missing out on some neat games with this sort of mindset.
Being a DIK, the number 1 game on this site, was mostly built from Ren'py. Just goes to show that great games doesn't require to be from one engine or the other...
If you want my personal favorite game from that engine it probably be Doki Doki Literature Club, weirdly enough. It's obviously not porn based...unless you look for it, but it pushed Ren'py as an engine to it's upper limits and beyond. The creativity and imagination used to make this game is absolute insanity.
I don't care about the engine. If the game has solid and well thought fundamentals and hot scenes.
I'm going to play it and I'm going to enjoy it , and most likely, add it to my list!
Stay awesome,
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Glad you took it, mostly, in a good way. In the middle of writing my reply I honestly thought you might take it as an insult of sort, which it isn't.
I'm a fan of good ideas made into games, regardless of the engine.
But while we're on the subject, yes, Ren'py isn't an outstanding engine, it has its flaws just like any other.
A while back, I had the chance to talk with a few devs about their opinion on certain engine. The general consensus, about Ren'py, was that it was too basic, limited, and mostly a stepping stone to acquire experience and confidence to then work on other more sophisticated projects.
But, at the same time, it is known for being user-friendly and very consistent. I pointed out that it was easy to use, hence, it's easier to put your ideas into reality. Which I'm all up for.
I'm glad to see someone that's excited about this subject, you seem to have found some passion about it, but I'm not gonna humor you.
I'm not going to name the TOP 3 MOST AWESOME REN'PY GAME OF ALL TIME (Doesn't help that you took 2 great games from my list but ya know
In the first place, it wasn't my goal to dismiss your disgust of Ren'py, but more an attempt to make you realize that you'd be missing out on some neat games with this sort of mindset.
Being a DIK, the number 1 game on this site, was mostly built from Ren'py. Just goes to show that great games doesn't require to be from one engine or the other...
If you want my personal favorite game from that engine it probably be Doki Doki Literature Club, weirdly enough. It's obviously not porn based...unless you look for it, but it pushed Ren'py as an engine to it's upper limits and beyond. The creativity and imagination used to make this game is absolute insanity.
I don't care about the engine. If the game has solid and well thought fundamentals and hot scenes.
I'm going to play it and I'm going to enjoy it , and most likely, add it to my list!
Stay awesome,
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...I came here for porn games, I stayed for the lore.
| Adventure Games | 2D |
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Crimson Keep | I don't even know. I won't say it's a bad game, it's a click-to-fap type of game, because there are no activities other than going and fighting. I'm not really a fan of click-to-fap-games when it comes to Tier List, but nevertheless it's a classic and the visuals aren't bad, so I'd safely give it a B. |
Karryn's Prison | Of course, unlike most of its peers, there will be a lot more gameplay, BUT. Qualitatively, this is a typical representative of try-to-coruption game, with small elements of pumping and management, not going beyond insignificant. Graphics... for amateurs, gameplay for amateurs, score - no higher than category C... for amateurs. |
Summer Memories | It's a complicated case. I love this game for the amount of activities, interesting events and everything else to do in it, but I just hate it for how bland and naive it is presented. The plot in it is simply impossible to tolerate, to the pain it is climbed out and gnawed by everyone. I wouldn't put it past A, for all my desire and respect for the author for his truly titanic work. |
Aurelia | A game with good potential, like many representatives of similar genre, but with a rather poor realisation in terms of story and immersion. You just walk around the world, though with beautiful graphics, but with the most typical setting, click, fap and that's it. No higher than B-C. |
Spooky Milk Life | Summertime saga at low. Also walking around, doing something... interesting video sequences, but so fairly typical. I wouldn't go any higher than C. |
Island Saga, Sphilias's Familiar, Zombie Retreat, Con-quest, Knight of Erin, Abaddon Princess of Decay, Eld, Con-quest, Take me to the Dungeon, Scars of Summer , Kingdom of Subversion, Niplheim's Hunter Branded Azel, Knight of Erin, Dungeon with girl, Nymphomania Priestess, NTR Knight, Princess go Round, Modern Pink Elf RPG, Harem in Another World, Town of Passion, Two Horns, EP Battle Girl, EP Hero Youth, Succubus★Connect, Venture Seas | CLICK TO FAP CLICK TO CLICK TO FAP CLICK TO FAP CLICK TO FAP CLICK TO FAP CLICK TO FAP CLICK TO FAP CLICK TO FAP CLICK TO FAP CLICK TO FAP CLICK TO FAP CLICK TO FAP CLICK TO FAP CLICK TO FAP CLICK TO FAP CLICK TO FAPCLICK TO FAP CLICK TO FAP CLICK TO FAP CLICK TO FAP CLICK TO FAP CLICK TO FAP CLICK TO FAP CLICK TO FAP |
False Myth | A game with cute graphics and a boring narrative with few interesting events. Not bad, but extremely weak. Not above B-C. |
Some Heroines etc... , Saria Reclaimed, Loi the Lover, Dungeon of Erotic Master | Good idea, but terrible implementation. Not above C. |
Ero Dungeons | Darkest dungeon clone where's nothing to do. Not above C. |
| Management Game | 2D |
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Dohna Dohna | Colorful something out there, with not very complex gameplay, painfully obvious plot and trivial colorful characters. Yes, it has good graphics and non-annoying gameplay, but it's not above a B. I also didn't understand why it's managment. |
Quickie: A Love Hotel Story | Click to fap VN with trivial management. Put C and move on. |
Peeping Dorm Manager, The Arrogant Kaiju Princess | This is NOT management game. It's like NTR legend or something, click-to-fap adventure. Not above B-C. |
Imperial Gatekeeper | A simple game about the hard life of a gate keeper. Kind of like "Papers, Please", but short, boring and without replayability and plot. Not above B-C. |
Monster Girl Club Bifrost | Generic management game, but with a bit better graphics and size. not above B-C. |
Village Rhapsody | Stardew Valley on minimal. 2 bobs out of 10 carrots out of ten. C |
Ntraholic | Like "NTR Legends" but worse. Not above B, though closer to C. |
Self Defense Dojo Secret NTR Lesson | NTR legend for zoomers. Not above B. |
Handyman Legend | Like Ntraholic but worse. Not above C. |
NTR Legend | A classic with a gang-bang track on the delivery. Would have given it an A if it wasn't so simple and trivial, so more like an A-B. |
Breeding Farm | “Cloud Meadow" but worse. No higher than C. |
Monster Black Market | The first and the only normal Managment game on this Tier List (honestly). Specifically in this category I'd put it even in S, but if you compare it to other games (other categories), it's no higher than A. |
Workplace Rhapsody | Good CGI, boring gameplay. Not above C. |
The Runaway Girl and Me, Kaiju Princess | Generic corruption game. Not above C. |
Succumate | A game with rather boring gameplay, but a good ending. Not above B-C. |
Idol Hands 2 | Fap on the Idols and then Fap them on you. Not above C. |
Jerez's Arena 2 | Something with fighting, something with pumping, something typical and boring, except with slightly different graphics. Not above C. |
Imperial Harem | Good boobs and ass physics, good challenge to get them excited together for half an hour. No higher than a B-C. |
Open at Nine | Just... no higher than C. There's... nothing to talk about. |
| Platformer | 2D |
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Succubus Affection | Like FOBS, but having lost some of his soul. Here the monsters are more boring, the bosses are more boring, the world is more boring and even sex is more boring. But overall, playable - not above a B-C. |
Seal of Lutellaria, Setalia the Demon Realm, Crescent Soul | Some futa shit-fighting. I never understood what the fun was, no higher than C and move on. |
Alien Quest Eve | Generic metroidvania with excellent graphics, interesting bosses and gameplay sagging only towards the end. A solid A and move on. |
Ayura Crisis & Eris Dysnomia | I'm surprised it's not in the clicker category. Confident B-C. |
Flying Princess Inter Breed | A game with an interesting idea( yeah-yeah, 'Angry Birds"), but rather boring gameplay towards the middle. I would give it a B, but with a very big stretch. |
Journey to the west | Like Flying Princess Inter Breed, but shorter by a factor of 5 and boring by a factor of 3. Not higher than C. |
Lustful Spirit Hunt | A game with an interesting idea, crooked code and subsequently also gameplay. Animations are also quite axe, so not above C. |
Mage Kanade's Futanari Dungeon Quest | Another futa bullshit. No higher than D and moving on. |
Castle of Temptation | A game with typical gameplay - get from point A to point B. A good attempt to take the best of FOBS, but shat itself on the verge of budding. No higher than a C. |
Daydream | CLICK TO FAP D |
Decoy the Witch of the Blue, Juuyoku No Jousai, The Fortress of Carnal Lust | CLICK TO FAP, AGAIN! C |
Scarlet Maiden | Kind of rogue-like, I guess, but shitty. No higher than C. |
Ghost Hunter Vena | Classic. I wouldn't even rate it at all, considering how outdated it is. |
Mystic Knight Maya | Sort of like FOBS, but with an attempt to give a little more adventure... which ended up being more bad than not. Not above B-C. |
Happy Heart Panic | Predecessor to Mystic Knight Maya. Overall similar in many ways to hers...except for that cool woman-demon. Not above B-C. |
Demon Maid's Luna | A pure action-platformer, with an extremely odd choice of visual graphics, especially the monsters. Not above B-C. |
Max the Elf | I wonder why this garbage still exists. Z |
Goblin Walker | Not bad in the beginning, but boring towards the end. Fairly short, so not above C. |
Crisis Point Extinction | Nice attempt at a good action-platformer, if the author hadn't forgotten to give a challenge. I would give it a B-C, but with a very big stretch. |
Angel Under | It's click-to-fap again. No higher than C. |
Virgin Invader | The title is the best, the game is the worst. No higher than a C. |
Super Monsters 'n Girls | Great game, no kidding. Too bad it's extremely unpopular..... it's a shame. Confident A. |
Syahata's Bad Day | Best CGI at all. The gameplay is quite boring, but the CGI is really good. No higher than B-C. |
Afterschool Tag | Small, short, boring. No higher than C. |
Drain Mansion | Not a bad successor to FOBS, which decided to move closer to choruses, immersion and all that. Confident A. |
Gamer Struggles | Like "Kincaid", but smaller and worse. Not above B-C. |
Futanari di Funghi | ... can I not comment on that? |
| Click & Shit |
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Summertime Saga | It's a typical blockbuster, with all its pros and cons. Good graphics, a lot of content, but you can't expect much more here - not above A-B. |
Happiness Double Room | Not bad CGI... that's where the pluses end. No higher than B-C. |
Space Paws, Elven Conquest, Elven Conquest 2 | Classic. Given the way it's deteriorated, I don't see the point of rating it at all. |
Love & Sex: Second Base | Another Ren'py shit. No higher than C and move on. |
Simply Mindy | I still don't know what the big deal is. I'll leave it hanging in the air. |
Goodbye Eternity | A crushing title that hides the usual generic VN. No higher than C and moving on. |
RoboLife Days With Aino, 1 Room Runaway Girl, Hero Party Must Fall, Another Chance, Confine with Goddesses, Unveiling the Unknown, Project Cappuccino, Pmc Promiscuity, Bones Tales the Manor, Summer Life Countryside, Snow Daze, Horny Warp, Icha Icha Study| Generic life simulator, VN simulator, shit simulator and C. |
Teaching feelings | Great beginning (no joke), but wher you become friends with her (or not) it starts to sag a lot, until it's completely removed from your disk space. No higher than a B-C. |
Ninja Discipline, Hypno app Domineering Young Lady, How to Raise Happy NEETs | A typical coruption game with great CGI. No higher than B-C. |
Doll Room | It's a good flash game. It'll last five minutes, and then it's only C-D. |
Housemaid Ladies Disturb my Study! | The living heir to "Summertime memmories"! Worthy of B-C, because of the typical gameplay and small length. The story also sucks. |
| Puzzle |
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Flower Charm Sequel - Mansion of Captivation, Working Sakuya, Revenge Game Cumshot or Death | Typical coruption shit. C |
The Impregnation of the Elves, Lost Chapter| Good idea with a bad of realization. No above C. |
Lewd Gym | Okay. Unlike other games of a similar genre, this is at least... fun. No higher than a B-C. |
Feminist F-ist | A game with a good idea, but not progressing in almost any way. No higher than a B-C by a huge margin. |
Alternate DiMansion Diary | A little adventure game teaching why you shouldn't go into abandoned castles. No above B-C. |
Halloween Harem | Something... weird. Not above C. |
Rogue and Princess Knight, The Legend of the Spirit Orbs, Doujin Fever!! Night Assault!, Everyday with a sloven classmate| CLICK-TO-FAP-CLICK-TO-FAP-CLICK-TO-FAP-CLICK-TO-FAP-CLICK-TO-FAP-CLICK-TO-FAP-CLICK-TO-FAP-CLICK-TO-FAP-CLICK-TO-FAP-CLICK-TO-FAP-CLICK-TO-FAP-CLICK-TO-FAP-CLICK-TO-FAP-CLICK-TO-FAP-CLICK-TO-FAP-CLICK-TO-FAP-CLICK-TO-FAP-CLICK-TO-FAP-CLICK-TO-FAP-CLICK-TO-FAP-CLICK-TO-FAP-CLICK-TO-FAP-CLICK-TO-FAP-CLICK-TO-FAP-CLICK-TO-FAP-CLICK-TO-FAP-CLICK-TO-FAP-CLICK-TO-FAP-CLICK-TO-FAP-CLICK-TO-FAP-CLICK-TO-FAP-CLICK-TO-FAP |
Attack it! Devil Legion | Simple strategy. Not bad, but a little small and boring. No higher than a B-C. |
Escape Dungeon 1, Escape Dungeon 2 | Not bad, but extremely monotonous after subsequent runs. Not above B-C by a long shot. |
Back Alley Tales | Not a bad, cute little game. Solid B-C. |
Monster Girl Assault! | Extremely... weird version of the PVZ. No higher than C. |
Fuckerman | Classic. Given the way it's deteriorated, I don't see the point of rating it at all. |
| ADVENTURE | 3D |
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| Ai Shoujo, Koikatu, House Party, Astral Lust, A Struggle With Sin, Futa Concoction, Big Long Complex, Headpats & Handholding, Adventurer Trainer | I don't want even... oh, my God. C |
| MANAGMENT 3D |
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| In Heat Lustful Nights | FNAF, in which there's nothing to do. Not above C. |
| Breeders of the Nephelym | Like Cloud Meadow, but in 3D and more boring. Very unsure B-C. |
| Mystwood Manor, Hail Dicktator, Secret Care Cafe, Tropicali | CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC |
| PLATFORMER |
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| Holy Knight Ricca | Okay, this is really a breath of fresh air not only in 3D platformers. I'd even say the only air in all this time. Solid A. |
| Mahou Arms | C-D |
| PORN |
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| My Demon Friend | It's not bad, but it's fairly linear HTML. No higher than B-C. |
| The Company | The best HTML on the market in general. I heard they even hired a person for the script here. Well deserved A-B |
| Friends of Mine, WTM Academy, Successor, Whoremaker, Proxent, Hero Corruption 2, Underworld, Dungeon Lord, Truecalling | B-C, very big stretch. |
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I appreciate your work young king, I shall read this and promptly answer soon...now...Go rest lol.i found this tierlist to be far too bitter. Seeing the alien quest section begin with "generic metroidvania" kinda destroys any real interest anyone might have for the game, even if its arguably in the top few of the 2D porn game department, and one of the single few games you gave a solid A, your highest score.
