VN Ren'Py A Life Worth Living [Ch. 5 P1] [FiTB_Games]

[Dessolos]

You and Joshy both...

That's fine and dandy, it's okay to like her, I don't think less of you or anyone else. You just won't ever catch me simping that hard. I can already anticipate that she was forced to do it under duress, via blackmail, coercion, or some other method. However, despite that, I'm not forgiving her, I can learn to co-exist with her if Mary wants to remain her friend, because that's Mary's decision. This doesn't mean however, that I want any sort of friendly/sexual relationship with her, or that I'll ever trust her again.

If she was going after something else, like the MC's job for example, then I could forgive her, because a job is easily replaceable anyways. In that instance, it's understandable to a degree, and at the end of the day no harm done. She was going after his marriage though, which is something that isn't easily replaceable, and by doing so also betraying her best friend. I don't care the reason, you ain't ever getting my forgiveness after that, you can have my empathy, I won't hate you for it, but you aren't my friend.

fair enough funny thing is I do agree with alot of post I read about other varies LI that have a similar opinion but yeah im a bit like Joshy. I just don't have it in me to really to dislike / not forgive or hate a LI once I learn the context and see things from their point of view. Even sometimes when a dev shows enough emotions that will be enough for me before I learn the full context too but that's a bit more rare and my MC probably will end up getting burned lol. but that's cause I havent had enough bad experiences to stop me from being too nice , forgiving and understanding of a person. I honestly probably do lack a bit of a spine or backbone cause of it.

 

[alyssssssssss]

Just read your review & this post. I think the possible reason you think Mary is turning into a slut is because you choose to make her a slut as a player with your choices.

There is a goodwife path, nothing slutty. There is hotwife path, has boundaries if you make the choices wisely. And then there is cheating path, which I think some of the players are pissed about. The reason why she cheats is because Fred has cheated on her. And her cheating depends on the cheat count of Fred.

So instead of talking to MC, Mary chooses the path of betrayal for revenge, as they say, an eye for an eye, well, someone made a comment where this VN, was the closest to reality, well, with Mary's behavior, all this is false, a wife, asks for explanations etc. no revenge to give her pussy to everyone..

 

[Skep-tiker]

One of the best existing games, but ruined with the latest updates, and a choice of a couple in the process of separation, how to once again transform a wife who likes to fuck shared with her husband, into a real slut, now a cliché

Full agree. Mary is going total bonkers on the cheating path IRL, they'd be so far beyond salvation. There was even never a explanation how she knows about Rachel and Kelly (especially if you didn't tell her about the kiss), but however.
The Therapist is teaming up against Frank (she tells them to be civil and honest, but supposedly encourages Mary to cuck Frank). That marriage is so unpalatable after this. Yes, this happens only if Frank misbehaved, but Mary massive overdoses her revenge and the humiliation. And also on the vanilla path Mary is cheating with David's wife and massively overstepping with Ben.. Unfortunatly at least one dev gets really p.. about criticism.

 

[alyssssssssss]

Sorry you feel that way. I always hate hearing from people who are disappointed in our work, but I also understand how some people may not like the way we take the game. Although, I am wondering what path you were taking that caused you to believe she became a slut. It was always stated that she would cheat if you did. Or possibly the way we handled hotwife? Either way, sorry to hear you didn't like the latest update. Truly.

Certainly that side of the game with Mary being vengeful for MC's betrayals, I found them too exaggerated, but this is my thought, surely, you who do an excellent job, cannot please everyone, so don't take it as gratuitous malice, but an exposition from a slightly disappointed player, that's all

 

[GetOutOfMyLab]

I'll have to agree with the others. It's not very close to reality. But, from a fap-perspective, it's kinda hot, so... whatever.

 

[simarimas]

So instead of talking to MC, Mary chooses the path of betrayal for revenge, as they say, an eye for an eye, well, someone made a comment where this VN, was the closest to reality, well, with Mary's behavior, all this is false, a wife, asks for explanations etc. no revenge to give her pussy to everyone..

So you were on the cheating path. And thinking that the MC should be able to fuck anyone he wants, and then have his wife just ask him about it, and then forgive? And are upset that she decided to make the MC feel the same way she felt when he cheated on her? Ok, I guess I can understand that position, though saying it isn't reality, I don't quite agree with. It happens all the time.

I won't argue with you though. This is how you feel about the character, and everyone has the right to see things how they see them. Thanks for the explanation!

 

[simarimas]

Certainly that side of the game with Mary being vengeful for MC's betrayals, I found them too exaggerated, but this is my thought, surely, you who do an excellent job, cannot please everyone, so don't take it as gratuitous malice, but an exposition from a slightly disappointed player, that's all

Sure, I understand, as I stated in my last post. Thanks for saying this though, and again, I appreciate the feedback.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

So instead of talking to MC, Mary chooses the path of betrayal for revenge, as they say, an eye for an eye, well, someone made a comment where this VN, was the closest to reality, well, with Mary's behavior, all this is false, a wife, asks for explanations etc. no revenge to give her pussy to everyone..

wait but to even reach a path where she's betraying you, you would have had to either to cheat on her with zoe or jazz...... so I really don't see what the issue is, what are you expecting her to just be a doormat while you insert your proboscis all over town? That doesn't sound realistic at all.

 

[Sod!]

So instead of talking to MC, Mary chooses the path of betrayal for revenge, as they say, an eye for an eye, well, someone made a comment where this VN, was the closest to reality, well, with Mary's behavior, all this is false, a wife, asks for explanations etc. no revenge to give her pussy to everyone..

We have been mentioning this from prologue: wife would cheat if you, as a player cheat on her.

 

[Skep-tiker]

We have been mentioning this from prologue: wife would cheat if you, as a player cheat on her.

Cheating =/= Cucking

 

[Sod!]

Have been wanting to say this for a very long time.........

There is one player in this thread who is not able to move on from thread even after claiming to do so multiple times.

 

[Sod!]

Cheating =/= Cucking

YOUR CHOICES IN THE GAME = Cheating = bare the consequences.

 

[alyssssssssss]

wait but to even reach a path where she's betraying you, you would have had to either to cheat on her with zoe or jazz...... so I really don't see what the issue is, what are you expecting her to just be a doormat while you insert your proboscis all over town? That doesn't sound realistic at all.

Of course, I don't justify MC, but it would make more sense to discuss with him why, then decide how to act, but if each of the two goes freewheeling without clarification, well, the only thing, the couple on that path, I think, will have to separate. it is a logical consequence. that's all.

 

[simarimas]

Full agree. Mary is going total bonkers on the cheating path IRL, they'd be so far beyond salvation. There was even never a explanation how she knows about Rachel and Kelly (especially if you didn't tell her about the kiss), but however.
The Therapist is teaming up against Frank (she tells them to be civil and honest, but supposedly encourages Mary to cuck Frank). That marriage is so unpalatable after this. Yes, this happens only if Frank misbehaved, but Mary massive overdoses her revenge and the humiliation. And also on the vanilla path Mary is cheating with David's wife and massively overstepping with Ben.. Unfortunatly at least one dev gets really p.. about criticism.

The Davids wife scene has been revised a little bit, giving a choice there. We did see the error in this, and resolved it.

The therapist part. You don't know what she has said to Mary behind closed doors. She could have told her anything, so saying she is teaming up against Fred is pure speculation on your part. As I stated to you earlier, she could very well have scolded Mary for what she was doing, or told her she needs to try to make Fred understand what she is feeling. The decision to do what she is doing is totally on Mary.

 

[Skep-tiker]

Have been wanting to say this for a very long time.........

There is one player in this thread who is not able to move on from thread even after claiming to do so multiple times.

AFAIK I only claimed (and proved) that I unsubbed on patreon.

 

[Dessolos]

So you were on the cheating path. And thinking that the MC should be able to fuck anyone he wants, and then have his wife just ask him about it, and then forgive?

All the talk lately about the cheating path does have me curious about one thing. I understand if you dont want to answer as it may be a spoiler or something you haven't gotten to discussing with the other devs yet.

I've yet to get to the update content but I am curious about one thing seeing how in this update is when the cheating starts to have consequences. Will that path be unsalvageable when it comes to their relationship or marriage or will Fred be able to repair it. As I do really like the idea of being a cheating pos and being able to repair things and another where everything just goes south and nothing you can do can repair it.

 

[simarimas]

AFAIK I only claimed (and proved) that I unsubbed on patreon.

Have been wanting to say this for a very long time.........

There is one player in this thread who is not able to move on from thread even after claiming to do so multiple times.

Guys, lets keep it civil. No need to get into a pissing match. Please. Everyone is entitled to their opinions.

 

[Skep-tiker]

so saying she is teaming up against Fred is pure speculation on your part

I remember your answered "Porn logic" to the statement, that aside porn logic no therapist would have encouraged Mary to do so...

 

[simarimas]

All the talk lately about the cheating path does have me curious about one thing. I understand if you dont want to answer as it may be a spoiler or something you haven't gotten to discussing with the other devs yet.

I've yet to get to the update content but I am curious about one thing seeing how in this update is when the cheating starts to have consequences. Will that path be unsalvageable when it comes to their relationship or marriage or will Fred be able to repair it. As I do really like the idea of being a cheating pos and being able to repair things and another where everything just goes south and nothing you can do can repair it.

We do intend to have both outcomes possible, redemption, and dissolution. HOWEVER, this all depends on the choices you make in both this release, and the ones going forward. Redemption may be a tough road, but it can be possible.

 

[simarimas]

I remember your answered "Porn logic" to the statement, that aside porn logic no therapist would have encouraged Mary to do so...

Did you read the rest of that Porn Logic post I made, the spoiler part?