VN Ren'Py Onhold Urban Demons 3D

sagela

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Man that looks awesome !

Can you make the MC looking more like in the game ? like, younger, smaller ? He almost looks like an adult here although he's pretty much in school in the game. Plus that would make more size difference with the MILFS :FeelsGoodMan: which is always good. That would be so perfect

Random suggestions (sorry for my bad english i'll try to be as clear as possible) :

- As I said earlier : make the MC look more like a shota. His current render kinda looks like... a dwarf rather than a kid ( don't take this as an insult ok ? ^^ it's just my point of view. be free to take it in consideration or not).
Either his face or body look a bit like a shrinked adult to me...Let's remember the basics of a kid's morphology -> thinner shoulders, bigger eyes-to-face ratio, bigger head-to-body ratio, shorter legs-to-body ratio etc etc... Something that basically look like a shota in term of body (except for the D of course :^)).
Also, reduce his height overall maybe ? He looks like he has the same height as the mother if he stands straight on his legs, making it look like an adult/teenager, while he's a shorty in the game (in the game i think he reaches the hips of the milfs in term of height, basically two times smaller than them). (selfishly i love when there's a lot of height difference between the shota and the milfs i gotta admit ><

- Maybe put more emphasis on the "cute" aspect of the kid ? In Urban Demons, the MILFs are attracted to the shota because of his cuteness "you're so cute!" "I could eat you up" etc etc...He's really an innocent cute normal "kid" in their eyes. So maybe try to go for a look that immediatly gives an impression of "innocence" rather than a teenage dude in his rebelious phase.... I don't know.... there are many things to do to achieve that, for example, light colours clothes (not black), light coulour haircut, not dark brown, make bigger eyes, the very big and coulourful eyes are what make the character have good and attractive faces. Make the forehead visible : that mind sound silly, but in term of character-designing, seeing the forehead of the character makes it look more "nice" and trustworthy rather than when the forehead is hidden behind hairs which gives a more "mysterious" and uncommunicative feeling.
Facial expressions like the game with bright smiles etc...

- For the Milfs now : Their design you posted until now are cool.
Just two points I'd like to talk about :
The size of the breasts, they looked way bigger in the game. Now, I know that it's 3D, and you can't achieve the same stuff as in 2D, I'm guessing that the tits cannot be "too" big in 3D otherwise they will look atrocious... But I'm thinking that just a bit bigger could be appreciated.
Also, and most importantly : the "texture/feel" of the breasts... Once again, I know it's 3D, and rendering 3D models and physics are very difficult things to do.... But I'm worried here that the 3D models might have the "Bricks-of-concrete-tits-syndrom".... you know, when the breasts look all stiff and hard as rocks... Whereas the tits of the milfs look very squishy and soft in the game. ONCE AGAIN i KNOW that it's very difficult to render a "soft" look of 3D-breasts, way more difficult than in 2d-drawings, but I was wondering if you could do something about it ? i don't know your skills in 3d-rendering, but you look very competent and skilled, maybe you could reach that "less-stiff-rock" impression on the tits ? Maybe make them sag a little bit ? Not too much of course ! Not something like deflated balloons, but just something that gives a "squishy" look rather than concrete-blocks who doesn't obey to the laws of physics... x)


Anyway, I hope these suggestions will help you. Sorry for the long text.

I'm super hyped for your game
 
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I let you here the possible main screen. Right up the word "Evolved" would be the "start, settings and other menu options. It's not to much original, but is something. Let's see what you think.
That main screen looks really nice. Like the mom's clothes. I approve of this.

I'm also working on a 3D game inspired by Urban Demons. I may post more information soon if people are interested.
 
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Random suggestions (sorry for my bad english i'll try to be as clear as possible) :

- As I said earlier : make the MC look more like a shota. His current render kinda looks like... a dwarf rather than a kid ( don't take this as an insult ok ? ^^ it's just my point of view. be free to take it in consideration or not).
Either his face or body look a bit like a shrinked adult to me...Let's remember the basics of a kid's morphology -> thinner shoulders, bigger eyes-to-face ratio, bigger head-to-body ratio, shorter legs-to-body ratio etc etc... Something that basically look like a shota in term of body (except for the D of course :^)).
Also, reduce his height overall maybe ? He looks like he has the same height as the mother if he stands straight on his legs, making it look like an adult/teenager, while he's a shorty in the game (in the game i think he reaches the hips of the milfs in term of height, basically two times smaller than them). (selfishly i love when there's a lot of height difference between the shota and the milfs i gotta admit ><

- Maybe put more emphasis on the "cute" aspect of the kid ? In Urban Demons, the MILFs are attracted to the shota because of his cuteness "you're so cute!" "I could eat you up" etc etc...He's really an innocent cute normal "kid" in their eyes. So maybe try to go for a look that immediatly gives an impression of "innocence" rather than a teenage dude in his rebelious phase.... I don't know.... there are many things to do to achieve that, for example, light colours clothes (not black), light coulour haircut, not dark brown, make bigger eyes, the very big and coulourful eyes are what make the character have good and attractive faces. Make the forehead visible : that mind sound silly, but in term of character-designing, seeing the forehead of the character makes it look more "nice" and trustworthy rather than when the forehead is hidden behind hairs which gives a more "mysterious" and uncommunicative feeling.
Facial expressions like the game with bright smiles etc...

- For the Milfs now : Their design you posted until now are cool.
Just two points I'd like to talk about :
The size of the breasts, they looked way bigger in the game. Now, I know that it's 3D, and you can't achieve the same stuff as in 2D, I'm guessing that the tits cannot be "too" big in 3D otherwise they will look atrocious... But I'm thinking that just a bit bigger could be appreciated.
Also, and most importantly : the "texture/feel" of the breasts... Once again, I know it's 3D, and rendering 3D models and physics are very difficult things to do.... But I'm worried here that the 3D models might have the "Bricks-of-concrete-tits-syndrom".... you know, when the breasts look all stiff and hard as rocks... Whereas the tits of the milfs look very squishy and soft in the game. ONCE AGAIN i KNOW that it's very difficult to render a "soft" look of 3D-breasts, way more difficult than in 2d-drawings, but I was wondering if you could do something about it ? i don't know your skills in 3d-rendering, but you look very competent and skilled, maybe you could reach that "less-stiff-rock" impression on the tits ? Maybe make them sag a little bit ? Not too much of course ! Not something like deflated balloons, but just something that gives a "squishy" look rather than concrete-blocks who doesn't obey to the laws of physics... x)


Anyway, I hope these suggestions will help you. Sorry for the long text.

I'm super hyped for your game

I let you here this picture, you can see the difference, a new model, the old model and mom, all of you can say whats is your opinion and I will try to take all what you say it, they are good notes.

That main screen looks really nice. Like the mom's clothes. I approve of this.

I'm also working on a 3D game inspired by Urban Demons. I may post more information soon if people are interested.
Good luck with your project, i will be waiting for see some screens soon. :)
 
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I let you here this picture, you can see the difference, a new model, the old model and mom, all of you can say whats is your opinion and I will try to take all what you say it, they are good notes.

WOOOOOW That's really really cool mah dude ! We're getting closer to something similar to the original game, it's great.

Maybe shrink his size a little bit more ? About one head or so ? So it's height reaches the Mom's crotch

- Also : Is it the definitive haircut ? I gotta say I don't really like the look of his hair... Kinda make him look... autistic ? :test: i don't know... Seems a bit too flat to me. A bowl cut doesn't really fit him i think. He looks like a Beatles XD
Maybe go for something a bit more "dynamic" ? Not necesarily something too spiky or punk-ish but just something a bit more gracious ? Basically like in the game.

- Also, his neck seems a little bit too thick to be a kid. Looks like an adult's neck.


I know I've been only saying suggestions and "critics" until now but just keep in mind that I say all that shit because I think what you do is great and i'm very hyped to see more :FeelsGoodMan:

That main screen looks really nice. Like the mom's clothes. I approve of this.

I'm also working on a 3D game inspired by Urban Demons. I may post more information soon if people are interested.
That sounds very interesting ! Keep us updated on your activities, i'd love to see that
 
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I will see or wait some others comments to see what think the other guys, because to me look too young, almost a kid with 6 years or so, that's not much realistic. But if the majority say is okay or they like you idea i will do it. Also, i found a new outfit to MC, more youthful.

- Also : Is it the definitive haircut ? I gotta say I don't really like the look of his hair... Kinda make him look... autistic ? :test: i don't know... Seems a bit too flat to me. A bowl cut doesn't really fit him i think. He looks like a Beatles XD
Maybe go for something a bit more "dynamic" ? Not necesarily something too spiky or punk-ish but just something a bit more gracious ? Basically like in the game.

- Also, his neck seems a little bit too thick to be a kid. Looks like an adult's neck.


I know I've been only saying suggestions and "critics" until now but just keep in mind that I say all that shit because I think what you do is great and i'm very hyped to see more :FeelsGoodMan:
I take that haircut because was the more closest to the original and the hair color too. I will see if i found other, because with the time i'm finding new things.
About my skills, im still learning and take me sometime but i'm improving.
I will try to make the boobs more realistics, with some gravity and more "squishy" (i think i write fine that word) Other thing about boobs is not easy sometimes with my skills make clothes fit, a lot of collisions, broken clothes, and the body never is fully covered, but i will try.

Thanks for the suggestions, this help a lot.
 
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I will see or wait some others comments to see what think the other guys, because to me look too young, almost a kid with 6 years or so, that's not much realistic. But if the majority say is okay or they like you idea i will do it. Also, i found a new outfit to MC, more youthful.
Sure of course.
Nice ! I'm eager to see your new stuff.

My point is just that he's small in the game and (to me) that's what makes the scenes with the MILF so hot, it's the contrast of the size and age. They really nailed that aspect in UD. But yeah anyway let's see what the other think.

I take that haircut because was the more closest to the original and the hair color too. I will see if i found other, because with the time i'm finding new things.
About my skills, im still learning and take me sometime but i'm improving.
I will try to make the boobs more realistics, with some gravity and more "squishy" (i think i write fine that word) Other thing about boobs is not easy sometimes with my skills make clothes fit, a lot of collisions, broken clothes, and the body never is fully covered, but i will try.

Thanks for the suggestions, this help a lot.

haha no problem my dude :eazyHype:

Yeah I think you got the word right x)

For the clothes, if you feel too lazy to really render tight clothes that entirely "fit" the woman's breasts and body I suggest you go for lighter, more "loose" baggy clothes for the characters you struggle with tight clothes fitting. That should be easier to render I assume. But of course it's up to you.

good luck to you in your works

(I think he's pretty much meant to be 7 or 8yo in the game considering how people talk to him and the school...despite what the description of the game says for legal reasons).
 
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Just giving you a heads up.. if he looks like a kid, then we can't post the game here. Cut and pasted Rule #7.

7. If the main focus of the game is sexual contact with realistic or semi-realistic character(s) who show no sign of puberty (ie prepubescent) then the game should not be shared. Basically, if it looks like a real kid don't post it. As this involves some discretion, if you are unsure ask a Staff Member.

My thought is is to make him more like your first main screen . He looked about 14-15 or so and seemed to be similar in size to the girls. If you can keep him looking like a young teenager at the youngest, you can post the game here.
But if he looks like a little kid like this ?? Then we cannot allow it here.
 
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What the hell ?

Appearance doesn't change anything as long as the legal mention +18 is shown, also there's the whole "has a huge dick" thing to contrast with the realistic tone. It's basically "not" realistic at all (especially since it's an adaptation of UD and it'll probably contain magic, fantasy elements and stuff like that).

Basically, why wouldn't a short size be acceptable for the hero while the thread for Urban Demons (and the others) are perfectly fine and no one says anything about it ?

I mean, it's just meant to "look" like a kid, exactly like in UD and basically every mom-son game in existence. It's simply to put emphasis on the size-difference with the woman.

I talked about "looking like a kid", but that was about UD (the original). In any case it should be mentionned that it is actually a kid... for legal reasons.

I mean... there's porn stuff about midget fucking giantess women and there's no problem with that. There's no mention of age. Just a visual contrast in size.
 

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Just giving you a heads up.. if he looks like a kid, then we can't post the game here. Cut and pasted Rule #7.

7. If the main focus of the game is sexual contact with realistic or semi-realistic character(s) who show no sign of puberty (ie prepubescent) then the game should not be shared. Basically, if it looks like a real kid don't post it. As this involves some discretion, if you are unsure ask a Staff Member.

My thought is is to make him more like your first main screen . He looked about 14-15 or so and seemed to be similar in size to the girls. If you can keep him looking like a young teenager at the youngest, you can post the game here.
But if he looks like a little kid like this ?? Then we cannot allow it here.
The fact that this is being posted is truly hilarious especially when this game is literally a remake of Urban Demons, aka a game that is one of the most popular games on this website.

More evidence to how laughably implemented that crappy rule is.
 

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The fact that this is being posted is truly hilarious especially when this game is literally a remake of Urban Demons, aka a game that is one of the most popular games on this website.

More evidence to how laughably implemented that crappy rule is.

It really is.... I don't even know why is this rule still here since absolutely EVERY game/comic about mom-son and characters that "look young" are always being introduced with "characters are over 18" ever single time...

There's litterally no point to this rule since it serves no purpose after the "+18" is mentionned.

Why don't we just change rule 7 to be "every game/comic/stuff must clarify they are 18+ to be posted" ?

Why is this rule even here in the first place ?

*sigh * it kinda bugs me to ask this here, but do you know a place/forum or whatever to talk about adult games etc (like here) but that allows shota ? without the crappy rule ?

For instance, is there a place to talk about the game Incestral Awakening ? Since it's forbidden here...

(kinda hypocrite that UD is probably one of the most active thread on this site although it totally shouldn't be allowed considering the rule...)
 
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Read the rule carefully. "Realistic or semi-realistic depictions of someone who does not show signs of puberty"
The rule has already been explained. It is here to stay because it protects the site.
This is just one example- You do realize that to maintain a website, we need to pay for the site to be hosted and rent server space to host the files. And do you think every company enjoys having loli/shota content on their sites and servers when law enforcement agencies around the globe will go after them at the mention of that content?? I think NOT!
Just stop for a second and think! If you want to continue to download off this site, then wouldn't it make sense to take steps to protect this site and the servers from being shut down?? If we start getting known for hosting loli content, then I guarantee we will get attention from both law enforcement and various hacker groups. They won't hesitate to pressure the host and the servers to shut us down! And they will since NO company likes attention from law enforcement and hackers.

Enough! Any more discussion of "I want loli/shota content!" Or "where is Incestral Awakening?" will get your post deleted. Some of us will warn you as well. And we have mods that will ban you just for posting that. You have been warned.
 

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Alright.

I hope OP will still manage to make the render look like UD in the most lawful adaptation of the original. That means with a MC that isn't a college teen nor an adult (at least not make it look like it). Basically the same stuff as we already have, but in 3D.

Even tho it means having to post his works somewhere else.... I hate to say that stuff but well...
 

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this is not a continuation, but my opinion.
I really hope we can play a MC that actually is old enough, im not into shota, but because I like the story I will play it but only if, I actually like more Nessa, that is why I stopped my interests when they removed her in Urban Demons.
so, now that I know she will be back, Im pleased! I also agree with , with the choice of MC. I think he look cool in that first picture, the other one is just bad, too short/tiny and childish. of course, we all know about short dudes, like , but he look adult right, even if short.
 

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As @muttdoggy said, rule 7 is to safeguard the long term survival of the site and community.

We get constant DMCAs, and we have never taken down content due to a DMCA complaint. In order to do this we have to use hosts which are less bothered about such issues. However, they are of course still very bothered about **********. Regardless of if you agree with it or not, this type of art would be considered ********** in most western and European countries (ie, anywhere there is a decent datacenter).

If we're to keep the site safe, stable and online we need to try and draw a line somewhere, keeping our hosting providers happy and avoiding the attention of international agencies. Otherwise, we'd be constantly hopping hosts every time we get a DMCA or ********** complaint.
 
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So this is a good reason why you should be attaching and clicking "thumbnail" for hosting images. Also please wrap your large images in spoiler tags.

Also I have merged all double, triple and 4x+ posts.

@sagela @Luckzor You two were the most notable ones doing this. Please use the + Quote button. You can then use the Insert Quotes button below the reply box.

The above goes for everyone else.
 
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Oh sorry I guess. so...

So this is a good reason why you should be attaching and clicking "thumbnail" for hosting images. Also please wrap your large images in spoiler tags.

Also I have merged all double, triple and 4x+ posts.

@sagela @Luckzor You two were the most notable ones doing this. Please use the + Quote button. You can then use the Insert Quotes button below the reply box.

The above goes for everyone else.
I'm supposed to do like this ? I don't really see the difference ?