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I'm a big advocate for Humor in Porn Games. My faved games are the ones which don't take themselves too seriously. It's just good clean fun. BUT , if you want to go the serious route, gimme a fucking story. Saddo delivered. Above and beyond. After a game full of "strong emotions", "My Legacy ", i kinda knew what to expect, but this one...blew me away ! Now , he's reversing the bud of the joke, it's the MC staring at the barrel of an impossible situation . Saddo dialed up "strong emotion" to 11, in fact i think he realised "this is too much " , so he went back and allowed NTR and Incest to be turned off, so a larger potential audience wouldn't be "turned off ". I think we might be looking at a classic "The Count of Monte Cristo " story here. The MC is going to get his enemies, one by one. Well, if it was up to me, i'd buy an insane amount of Lye, a bunch of roophies, spike their drinks, put everyone asleep, get them in the bathtub, and in a couple hours, they'd be gone. But i'm sure Saddo will come up with something way better.
I agree. It's EXTREMELY ambitious, but if he will be able to do it properly it could be a masterpiece.
If I understand right you could be the good guy and try to save your family or embrace the dark side and (I suppose) try to became the boss. In both case the potential is huge. You must be able to protect yourself and your women and slowly prepare yourself to hit hard.
 
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I agree. It's EXTREMELY ambitious, but if he will be able to do it properly it could be a masterpiece.
If I understand right you could be the good guy and try to save your family or embrace the dark side and (I suppose) try to became the boss. In both case the potential is huge. You must be able to protect yourself and your women and slowly prepare yourself to hit hard.
Exactly. I don't like NTR, well, AT ALL , but if there's a route open to avoid it, i'm game. Although, those muffled noises in the basement...i desperately wanted some option to go in, and stop it, Saddo just let it sink in , deep... If the plot goes on like that, Mom getting gangbangs every night, and the MC is powerless, i'll have to go back, and turn NTR off. But there could be an EVEN more disturbing plot here. The Mom was the one who came up with the idea in the first place, and Dad is really under the thumb of the Boss, who is shagging Mom, to her heart's content. Wow, is that "strong emotions" enough for you ?
 
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if there's a route open to avoid it, i'm game.
Based on this demo, the dev's definition of "avoid" is very different from mine. I don't think I am confortable with supporting any dev that is generating NTR content as it's just a huge boner-killer for me. I am out as a patron, for MC getting punched by the father for "get your mits off my mom." That's some uninteresting BS to me in an ero game. If the "no NTR" switch was working, I'd never see any of THAT shit. "It's part of the story development," means more unwanted content to me.
 

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Based on this demo, the dev's definition of "avoid" is very different from mine. I don't think I am confortable with supporting any dev that is generating NTR content as it's just a huge boner-killer for me. I am out as a patron, for MC getting punched by the father for "get your mits off my mom." That's some uninteresting BS to me in an ero game. If the "no NTR" switch was working, I'd never see any of THAT shit. "It's part of the story development," means more unwanted content to me.
Yeah man i agree on you on the point that it's not cool from the developer to promise a NTR avoid/control
route if its on ON and then do the basement thing and judging by the big sister promo pick she is also heavily corrupted already but at least unlike other devs he had the decency to put NTR and cuckold it the description and give you a taste of wat his ,,definition of avoid'' means in the demo.

I personally hate NTR and cuckold but as long as they are narrative driven and know to expect them can live with them.

Plot wise if my suspicions are correct the husband become indebted to the mobsters and then convinced the daughter and mother to do ,,favors'' for them to save his life and they agree because they take him for a real family member and the entire undercover story is just a cover so they don't upset MC from the start.
 
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Based on this demo, the dev's definition of "avoid" is very different from mine. I don't think I am confortable with supporting any dev that is generating NTR content as it's just a huge boner-killer for me. I am out as a patron, for MC getting punched by the father for "get your mits off my mom." That's some uninteresting BS to me in an ero game. If the "no NTR" switch was working, I'd never see any of THAT shit. "It's part of the story development," means more unwanted content to me.
If it doesn't do it for you, might aswell go elsewhere. I stay away from anything that looks Anime/Manga , because i can't relate to that kind of Art. My loss, many will say, but i'm fine with my option. If in 0.2 comes another "muffled noise in the basement ", and i can't do shit to stop it, i'll restart the game, and turn ntr off. Then even if there are "noises in the basement ", i know it's some kind of nefarious business going on, at least it isn't ntr. But one thing we can't throw at Saddo, is that "nobody saw it coming ". Check out his previous game , "My Legacy ". He specializes in "strong emotions ", that's his whole shtick. And he did right, by coming out from get go, saying what to expect in this game. For that reason alone, i'm waiting for 0.2, and then make a more final call. Btw, i'll never touch anything that carries the name "Dark Silver " on it, for doing the opposite of that. But if it turns out, i choose to cut my losses, hey, bro, plenty of fish in the sea.
 

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Yeah man i agree on you on the point that it's not cool from the developer to promise a NTR avoid/control
route if its on ON and then do the basement thing and judging by the big sister promo pick she is also heavily corrupted already but at least unlike other devs he had the decency to put NTR and cuckold it the description and give you a taste of wat his ,,definition of avoid'' means in the demo.

I personally hate NTR and cuckold but as long as they are narrative driven and know to expect them can live with them.

Plot wise if my suspicions are correct the husband become indebted to the mobsters and then convinced the daughter and mother to do ,,favors'' for them to save his life and they agree because they take him for a real family member and the entire undercover story is just a cover so they don't upset MC from the start.
I see your take is very close to mine. To me, this is BB in reverse. Day 1, the MC is realizing what a clusterfuck he's landed into. Day 2, i expect him to find a way to at the very least, cockblock those sob's , and down the line, take them out. If that's not the case, then it's not my kind of game. Like i said, plenty of fish in the sea...
 

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I love it on the other hand. I would prefer something much more subtle, like a boyfriend or neighbour slowly corrupting some of them but I assume it will be the case as well if description is correct. I also wonder how many other female characters we will see if we have to be able to have a normal gf. Great potential in this one
 

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I see your take is very close to mine. To me, this is BB in reverse. Day 1, the MC is realizing what a clusterfuck he's landed into. Day 2, i expect him to find a way to at the very least, cockblock those sob's , and down the line, take them out. If that's not the case, then it's not my kind of game. Like i said, plenty of fish in the sea...
Well i hope the mother and daughter get a better reason for prostituting themselves then the husband getting a bigger pension if they did it willingly just for more money this will definitely kill my interest in them.

A option to kill the three stooges is a must for me regardless.

I love it on the other hand. I would prefer something much more subtle, like a boyfriend or neighbour slowly corrupting some of them but I assume it will be the case as well if description is correct. I also wonder how many other female characters we will see if we have to be able to have a normal gf. Great potential in this one
Yes i also would have preferred the option to control if they remain pure or become corrupt in regards to the mother and B sister but at least we still have the L sister(i hope).
 
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Just played this , abit short i would say.. but finally one a few game that is not , MC screwing his family into sluts game just because he got "unresistible" dick. ...But the plot seem weird though , seem like the family is already corrupted. Why would big sis Cassandra wanna join in the gang gathering ... funny. And the step father seem like more happy to be an under-ling than undercover. But still a game with a plot nice

I hope to play out what the developer have in mind and where he going...but I must concur , what he attempting is truely ambitious ,

Regardless of what avoidable option you give , turning it off mean less content.
If this game reach a certain pt of popularity , "they" will come , download the game and whined NTR is forced upon them , even with option , straight harem content is lesser , and start demanding the developer to make only the content "they" want. Its inevitable.

The last thing i wanna see is another abandonment of project , subjugated compliance to another boring visual novel harem game and developer being brain block on every plot development.
Hopefully the developer is strong enough to resist and follow thru on his vision.
 

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The idea of someone doing undercover work bringing their actual family into it is ludicrous beyond belief. More so than all the fucking that will eventually happen. Ridiculous to the point that it detracts from my interest in the game. I feel it's unfortunate because I really enjoyed My Legacy, and I can understand the dev/writer wanting to do something different than his previous work. But c'mon; bringing your fake dirtbag friends whom you're supposedly informing on to your actual house and meeting your actual family is beyond retarded.
 
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The idea of someone doing undercover work bringing their actual family into it is ludicrous beyond belief. More so than all the fucking that will eventually happen. Ridiculous to the point that it detracts from my interest in the game. I feel it's unfortunate because I really enjoyed My Legacy, and I can understand the dev/writer wanting to do something different than his previous work. But c'mon; bringing your fake dirtbag friends whom you're supposedly informing on to your actual house and meeting your actual family is beyond retarded.
I mean honestly from what I got form this short little demo is that its gonna become discovered the the whole undercover stuff turns out to be fake or something(son even kinda implies this with some sort of "why the fuck are they letting random low level cop do undercover work") and daddy just wanted to live dat life and it is gonna turn out that he tricked family to go along with it under false pretenses.

Son has to save mom and sisters from horrible life of crime through the power of mighty penis.
 
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I mean honestly from what I got form this short little demo is that its gonna become discovered the the whole undercover stuff turns out to be fake or something(son even kinda implies this with some sort of "why the fuck are they letting random low level cop do undercover work") and daddy just wanted to live dat life and it is gonna turn out that he tricked family to go along with it under false pretenses.

Son has to save mom and sisters from horrible life of crime through the power of mighty penis.
I have the same impression. Probably there is some more. However it is a porn game, so it is not really a problem. A mean a lot of Hollywood movies have completely nonsense story.
 

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I've played the game. Graphics are good but I turned ntr on and off nothing is changed for this version.. Anyway that was good game and I will wait for new updates.
 

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So he's seriously trying to make it sandboxish. Amazing potential - looks great. I wonder how he wish to deal with outer world. If we are suppose to be able to have a normal gf it means we will probably have to go to school. If school is going to be a similiar area as house that would be something spectacular. His ideas remind me a bit of a BB when it was still a game with potential. Only thing I'm kinda afraid of is how fast relationships progressed in The Legacy. Hope it will be a bit slower here.
 

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His Patreon's growing nicely. Wonder what's in his game mechanic's explanation he posted. Someone can share news?
 
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Hello everyone,

with this post i want to explain how the game mechanic will work. Or what i want it to do.

As you mentioned there are 3 different values. Relationship, love and corruption.

Each character has this values, males will have good and bad instead. The player himself don‘t have this values. It‘s unnecessary whether he is good or bad.

The values on the characters shows how you treat them, good or bad and how they react to you because of that. You can have a bad/corrupted relationship with you sister and fell happy in love with your mom, for example. Player with incest off will have the same red and green buttons, but the sexual ones will not appear on family members.

Explaining the values:

Love: (good)

You‘re nice and helpfull to this character and treat her/him with respect. They‘ll be active when they need help or want to do something (going to a festival and so on). The foreplay (before the real sex) is gentle, like kissing, caressing and so on.

Notice for Love and Corruption: The sex-scenes itself will have all options for both sides, like gentle sex on corruption side or master-slave roleplay on love side. Because i thing when it‘s coming to the sexual act there is no right or wrong for this things. Happy pairs also do sometimes spanking or roleplay and bad pairs can have gentle sex. You can do there what you feel like. (But this is for later in the game.)

Corruption: (bad)

You‘re a jerk and do what you want. Women are your prey and they‘ll have to be obedient. They‘ll be in awe of you and try to avoid you when they can. They‘ll be passive but will react when you want something from them. The foreplay (before the real sex) is rough, like spanking, groping and so on.

Relationship:

This shows how much interest you have in them. When you play a scene with a character you‘ll raise this value, mostly by talking. This is also needed to unlock further actions on the good/bad path. You‘ll need for a morning kiss a amount of good points and relationship points, for example.

On the other side, when you ignore a character for some time and lose relationship points he/she will get angry or rebellious when you try something you did before with a higher amount of points.

So you need to hold the points stable or raise them.

To make this not to easy for the game, you‘ll lose relationship points to every character at the end of the day (a very low amount.)

And the other male characters are also a reason the female characters will loose relationship points. If you turned NTR off the male characters will try to make the females their friends (non-sexual). They're mainly there to make your game not to easy. If turned on they‘re your rivals.

Each male have only interest in a defined female. You'll get to know it by their actions or talking to them.

Now you‘ll have several ways to play:

1) Take care of your girl(s), interact often with them to raise the points, but this will get complicated if you want to build a harem.

2) Boost relationship points with gifts (you can buy them when you work and have money – later versions). With gifts you can boost love and corruption points also.

3) Get rid of the „point-stealers“. You can befriend them and convince them that the girl they aim at is not for them. Or overpower them and show them what is yours. Or take the short cut and kill them.

When you play with NTR off you‘ll be automatic in an easy mode where the point loss through the male characters isn‘t high and easier to handle. With that option turned off you make it clear that you aren‘t interested in that stuff and then it‘s no need to make the game harder then.

When you play with NTR on you‘ll need to play with a strategy to avoid the stealing of your girls. The point loss will be low at the start and will get higher with the time you play. So you have the chance to build the relationships up before they go down.

Players they‘re here for NTR only will have a „hardcore“ mode where‘s it‘s likely impossible to hold the points. (You can switch that on in the game seperatly when you turned NTR on)

Feel free to tell me your opinions about it and ask about.
 

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Love: (good)

You‘re nice and helpfull to this character and treat her/him with respect. They‘ll be active when they need help or want to do something (going to a festival and so on). The foreplay (before the real sex) is gentle, like kissing, caressing and so on.
So it seems like there is a possibility for a real romance. That's nice. I really hope there will be plenty of characters outside of our family for those not into incest. I kinda wonder how old MC really is.

On the other side, when you ignore a character for some time and lose relationship points he/she will get angry or rebellious when you try something you did before with a higher amount of points.
Thank God it's not another click and fuck gameplay.
And the other male characters are also a reason the female characters will loose relationship points. If you turned NTR off the male characters will try to make the females their friends (non-sexual). They're mainly there to make your game not to easy. If turned on they‘re your rivals.
I'm 100% sure that some people will still say it's pure NTR. But love this idea. I hope tho there won't be only those forceful guys from the beginning. Some more standard antagonistic character for each girl would be neat as it's much funnier when they're seduced for me.
3) Get rid of the „point-stealers“. You can befriend them and convince them that the girl they aim at is not for them. Or overpower them and show them what is yours. Or take the short cut and kill them.
Impressive. Like an Undertaker Simulator addon. Two games in one.
When you play with NTR on you‘ll need to play with a strategy to avoid the stealing of your girls. The point loss will be low at the start and will get higher with the time you play. So you have the chance to build the relationships up before they go down.
I wonder if it's possible to lose only 1 girl and win with the other. If I'm going to date one I don't see a reason to protect others from being adults.

Great and interesting. I haven't been so hyped since first versions of BB (R.I.P.). Let's see what future will bring.
 
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