i know it can be hard with so many tastes. I wish you good luck in your endeavor.Wow, so much bitching and complaining about a really good game w/great models/renders and solid animations and so much potential? Feels kind of like dudes are just piling on to be piling on? How about some of you whiners bend your myopic perspectives and roll w/it for a change? It's a fap game w/hot chicks FFS. Don't overthink it.
First, to the "Isabella is the town bike" crowd. Did it ever occur beyond your closed perspectives that A) Isabella and MC are close enough as long-time friends, former lovers, and business partners that they share literally "everything"? Maybe you've never had a relationship like that before? I have and to be honest, it was pretty cool and NOT a negative. Or B) Perhaps Isa is trying her hand at the oldest female trick in the book by attempting to make MC jealous? Did she REALLY bang a bunch of dudes or is it a ploy? Spoiler alert...if its A, fine. If its B, guess what...IT WORKED!
Second, to the "Screw Brooke bcuz she's an escort/whore/prostitute" crowd. She starting escorting in college, made mad bank, wants to keep making mad bank while she's pursuing a legit career...A CAREER THAT FOR NOW LIKELY DOESN'T OFFER THE SAME (and likely tax-free) MAD BANK. As someone already said, EVERYBODY has a history and she can still be a sympathetic character even though hers is an unconventional path to reaching her goals and dreams. Maybe she's an orphan, maybe she grew up in a broken home, maybe she had an abusive father and had to runaway and make it on her own. She's clearly directing her intellectual pursuits in one direction while paying her bills w/another. So not your cookie-cutter story arc but there's still a noble end game imo. Another 180-degree perspective is why wouldn't MC take on this conquest as an alpha-male challenge (same w/Isabelle btw)? Ok, so you've been w/a bunch of men, let me show you who THE MAN is...and BOOM! Based on her bedroom dialogue, he clearly made an impression and passed the first test with flying colors so GAME ON!
Third, just a mild observation here. If your takeaways from ANY adult game is "(in whiny annoying voice) this is just a game of sexy whores and sluts and easy women presented in the form of beautiful models and renders getting banged" and YOU'RE UNHAPPY ABOUT IT...perhaps YOU are the problem and adult games aren't for you.
The game has zero appeal. because the characters are just not appealing; that's just the reality.Which is why I wanted to counter some of this piling on nonsense. And people wonder why good, promising games get abandoned? And thank you for the sneak peak render. See what a little positivity brings fellow forum members? I do find it hysterical that one member
Unfortunately this has become an all-too-common theme of this forum. I see it over and over and while some comments, even negative, can be valid, a lot of what I've seen is just plain whining for whining's sake while positive commenters remain silent. You've even seen it on this thread. Not only do people drone on about things like NTR (or even the HINT of NTR), loose LIs, morality disagreements, etc., NOW you have people WARNING devs about avoiding certain future content to which I say if you think this game is so bad, GO MAKE YOUR OWN F'ING GAME!
As with any early release(s), there is always room for improvement but your game is very good dev. Your hard work is appreciated. Your creativity and technical ability are solid and I look forward to this game's progression. Keep up the good work!
Thanks I try. Although it's almost like trying to respond peacefully to people criticizing your children! I exaggerate a little, but I have really worked a ton on this, and I was very proud of it as my first effort doing anything like this. Again, I agree with some of the negative comments and I will adjust accordingly. Thanks!
Zero appeal is pretty harsh. I mean, the music was pretty good, right?The game has zero appeal. because the characters are just not appealing; that's just the reality.
The developer can try to downplay it or rationalize it, but it doesn't change anything. People don't like the characters, so they don't play and support the game, simple as that.
*awaits scathing attacks about the music...*Yeah it is mostly things that dont really matter the ones holding it back. As you said, girls can have a past but we dont need to know all the details about it. And since they are not going to be fucking the whole town anymore ( hey, at least brooke was getting paidZero appeal is pretty harsh. I mean, the music was pretty good, right?
) why does that information even matter, unless you are going to be introducing a plot in which they deal with their STDs collection, come on now lol.
Devs being blindsided here is more common than anyone would imagine. But that fact shows that the whiners are actually a small, insignificant, but vocal group here. Don't feel like this is most members' opinion.
Like I said earlier, I get it now. And expect an updated Chapter 2 in a couple of weeks. I just got back from a lunch walk and had a few ideas...Yeah it is mostly things that dont really matter the ones holding it back. As you said, girls can have a past but we dont need to know all the details about it. And since they are not going to be fucking the whole town anymore ( hey, at least brooke was getting paid
Brooke could be ok being a no sex scort for events, that doesnt mean she is a virgin nun thats never seen a penis, it just make her more appealing as she is no longer selling her body for cash to whatever sick fuck that could pay her. That doesn't mean she didnt have relationships, bfs, one night stands, she could have had those, but they are no longer relevant now that she is going to start a relationship with MC alone right? So why even mention them.
Same for Isabella, her past could be that she never had a meaningful or serious relationship, and just met some people here and there but she is now looking for a serious partner. Thats normal, but why exaggerate and make her just a cum dump that was used, abused and then left for a better option. Why would that make her appealing for the MC when even those thousands of NPCs just saw her as a quick fuck and no relationship material? I mean, I agree with those NPCs because a woman like that is indeed no relationship material.
Lastly the cheating gf, there is no redeeming her, even if she was under the effects of a drug, drunk or whatever. The only acceptable way is to make her avoidable, I have never seen, in 100s games I have played, a cheating gf that was liked or redeemed. I have seen a LOT of devs try though, and they all failed. Just check the thread of the game "Fallen roads" if you want to see a miserable attempt at having a cheating gf as a LI. Dev tried again and again till the game ended up abandoned
From what i have seen so far and the banner as well, i didn't get the impression the ex is supposed a LI.
Thanks, I went into a deep dive about Miranda just above your post (I believe). We were probably writing at the same time.
Is 53X the game you are thinking of?Devs being blindsided here is more common than anyone would imagine. But that fact shows that the whiners are actually a small, insignificant, but vocal group here. Don't feel like this is most members' opinion.
Don't worry too much about that "bunch of whiners." They are a group of antisocial individuals who have banded together to attack this kind of game here on F95. It's best to ignore them.
F95 is actually felicitating this behavior by allowing multiple accounts for one individual. I'd like to hear how this site can justify this practice.
This game is very good, IMO. It's a well-made and entertaining game.
This game reminds me of another game that, at the moment, slips my mind.
The plot of that game revolves around an ex-black ops assassin who's now trying to find out about his tragic past and banging all the women in town. The MC's look and mannerisms remind me of this MC. I wish I could remember the game's name.
broiler_x , keep doing what you're doing; you have fans here.
No, sorry. The title had "killer" or "Assassin" in it. The MC had a mulet-ish hairstyle like this MC. It's just the similarity of the MC's look that caught my eye. The stories are different. Thanks.
Fair play but allow me to suggest 90% of comments HERE, while consistent and maybe worthy of dev's address, do not actually reflect 90% of the game's actual players bcuz most players don't post here. So what appears 90% on this thread might only be 5-10% IRL. Who knows? The larger "piling on" point is to bring awareness to the problem that when somebody starts pulling a negative string, too many members here want to join the crowd and clamp on to the same string, often bcuz they're too incompetent to think for themselves or they feel like daddy suddenly gave them permission.
Yeah, now she is all ours! (translation: My past doesn't matter, im all your now!)
this is WAYYY better than whatever he said.
Devs being blindsided here is more common than anyone would imagine. But that fact shows that the whiners are actually a small, insignificant, but vocal group here. Don't feel like this is most members' opinion.
Don't worry too much about that "bunch of whiners." They are a group of antisocial individuals who have banded together to attack this kind of game here on F95. It's best to ignore them.
F95 is actually felicitating this behavior by allowing multiple accounts for one individual. I'd like to hear how this site can justify this practice.
This game is very good, IMO. It's a well-made and entertaining game.
This game reminds me of another game that, at the moment, slips my mind.
The plot of that game revolves around an ex-black ops assassin who's now trying to find out about his tragic past and banging all the women in town. The MC's look and mannerisms remind me of this MC. I wish I could remember the game's name.
broiler_x , keep doing what you're doing; you have fans here.
i'm going to be real.. some most likely slapped ignore on the game due to the whole Brooke, and Isabella, etc. But I will say, you are fine. Like I said your game is still pretty new, and you are not the first dev who made changes early on. Those devs went on, and there games are doing fine. Like I said, if those changes do not make a big impact on your vision of the story, and those bits of changes to those characters, then you are not swaying much away from your vision. I think this change will loosen the current head-ace and future head-ace as well for new players who try your game. But once again, it's all up to you. At the end of the day, it's your game.. You don't have to change anything and ignore all the noise if you want too.. Also I think more choices would have loosen some of the blow as well when it came to the Lis..
No, people are not going to come back, maybe they will in 1 years when they forget or if the game get a rework. The changes will be useful when new people come to the game, and the people that already give you the idea that they would like it more if you change it. At the end of the day people are getting mand and going because people look for games using filters, filter ntr out and romance in, you see romance tag, get in and think, i think i dont want to romance a prostitute!. Your game is yours, you shul do what you want to do about your game, but the opinion of people is theirs (unless they are trolling), This is a forum after all!. Some people are rude, I was too and I apologize for my performance, but you need to know when it comes to games there are two types of people, the people who pays it like it is a movie or a porn video, just fap and ctrl, and the people who insert itself in the protagonist, the second are very vocal cause the feelings can be real.
I'm willing to give it a try again. The back story of brooke and the mentioning of ex's by the women was my main issue. so far I liked the rest. Only other main issue for me is harem. I prob sub to like 30 VN's and they are all harem possible endings. Depending how far along in the story we can go before forcing us too choose li's will be a big factor for me. Maybe at the end you choose, then see her ending? then you can reload your save at the choosing point and pick another to see her ending? I get attached to the women, and it makes me sad having to turn the rest down. It's why I hardly ever play solo Li vn's
Truth is some will leave but most will stay bcuz creatively and technically, this game is very good at it's core. In an era w/an ocean of shite adult games, that means something. And keep in mind, once this current wave of whiny dregs takes their toys and goes home, you'll have your loyals while still attracting new players. If and when you rework the story, ALWAYS communicate and clarify why in the changelog, and move on. Players in general are very forgiving as long as changes are legit improvements. Upgrade/maintain an engaging, provocative banner and gallery on the OP and most people will form a "Will I play or won't I" impression from these visuals, especially newbs. If your visuals "sell" the game well enough (and your models are hot enough to easily do this btw), most people won't even give AF about any shortcomings from the original v1 or v2. For newbs it will just be an extended v3.
