I actually believe we already got the answers to the "cuckito" discovery, as some may call the ending where Kirito discovers the affair but enjoys it as a cuckold. The items that Alice introduced last update capable of detecting and revealing things that are invisible inside the game.
I actually disagree with everyone thinking of this, though it may just be because of me disliking Hebishima/recalling that the only real option seemingly is to GET RID of him: Suguha plain out DISLIKES him heavily, and while not really caring about having sex with him she does not actively SEEKS IT either anymore. Reminder that, as of the last update, she was actively DENYING him sex in the brothel and would have actually managed it if he didn't offer the discount for his cameras, and before that the AV was just full-on a transaction for her, same reason why she's working as Flora but picking up her clients/refusing to go all the way. Unlike the way it seemed to go before the new route for her character appeared, Suguha is no longer not going down the route of 'seeking out' Hebishima anymore, she's outright denying him and even having fun screwing him over, she's no longer 'addicted' or 'on her way of becoming permanently addicted' to him like Sinon is and seemed was gonna be her fate back in Part 1 (The brothel basically implied that they hadn't fucked IRL since the 'Not-Date' night despite Hebishima wishing otherwise, probably as a direct result of her new 'mindset'). Like, she literally OUT-FUCKED HIM (The Cliche NTR Blonde dude) by roleplaying she was fucking Kazuto instead, while he clearly was cringing at the 'dialogue' of the AV and was left half-dead after just one 'round', because apparently she got THAT wild when she fantasizes about him XDYeah, that was my assumption right from the start. I don't see a reason for her to get rid of Hebi right now. She is fine with doing whatever pleases her, so Hebi is her friend with benefits when Kirito isn't available. Maybe it will actually be Sinon who gets rid of Hebi, which would lead Suguha to become even more bold towards Kirito. Who knows?
Not to burst the bubbles of this theory, but reminder that we already KNOW the anti-invisibility thingie doesn't work thanks to Fujino full-on wanting to make the plots separated regardless of how much it stretches the Suspension of Disbelief or plot-holes: Besides Alice saying all that stuff was a one-time-use thing; if it wasn't then it would have 100% activated when Kirito walked to where Inoda was face-fucking Asuna, but his ability went completely unimpeded. So this either means it was indeed a one-time-use thing or that Inoda's ability is so godly that it transcends such pesky items, LOL
I don't mean it literally. It's more like "friends with benefits." As we see now, he still has something to offer her, so why not use him? Also, now that she is fully awakened to her feelings and drive, she'll still need some relief from time to time, I believe. Maybe she will use him to get some "medicine" from Kirito—who knows?
I'm in the camp, where Fujino isn't trying to keep the plots separated. At the current moment, they're separate, but they're probably meant to connect to each other at some point much later down the line. One could argue that the idea was thrown away, but nonetheless the idea is there that they're going to connect at some point. The best example of this is the first time Kirito, Klein, and Alice go into the underground area. When they end up leaving, they leave the area and log out in the town. You'll be able to see Inoda and Liz watching their interaction whilst invisible.
I mean, it's not that Fujino said it, it's just how he has been going about them constantly so far: There were several parts of the game where the plots could have mixed or interactions between characters of the different plots happened during them only for plot-convenience and more to prevent it, the only times Fujino has had the plots 'connect' is in indirect ways or ways that still go out fo their way to prevent the characters from interacting with each other as much as he can (Reminder that only Kirito has 'seen' Sinon at all onscreen outside Suguha doing so offscreen, Leafa and Alice have never once interacted with Asuna, Inoda, or Liz at all despite Alice literally once walking into the cafe while Kirito was reunited with both girls, Klein never once interacted with anyone else despite canonically knowing the main gang and having been literally outside the treehouse when that latest scene happened, etc (Not to mention the more plot-convenient aspects like Leafa working at the brothel that apparently the very same dangerous criminals with access to brainwashing tech that Alice was chasing run, being a top-prostitute on it even, but not having been targeted at all, because it has nothing to do with her LOL). Fujino clearly tries to prevent the plots from crossing over as much as he can, maybe because he thinks doing so would 'ruin' them if he allowed them to do so (Like how we know CLEARLY that Suguha would very much lose it if she discovered the whole thing between Inoda and Asuna, or even Liz, which anyone with half a braincell that Asuna and Kirito lack would figure out by interacting long enough with them in VR, so yeah).
That all falls apart with how she has been portrayed now, though, she clearly no longer cares for nor WANTS to have sex with him, which is the biggest thing. So yeah, unless everything 'goes wrong' now, Suguha clearly doesn't really want to keep fucking Hebishima, so that's probably the last thing to overcome.
I agree with you, because she can't actively have sex with Kirito when he's "awake", that would make Hebishima the next best thing. Cause the AV in my opinion is just an example of how Suguha views Hebishima, which is just a friends with benefits kind of relationship. She'll use him to get herself off while she's imagining it's Kirito.
I want to argue because I think it could go either way, tbh. It's just a feeling that things won't go the logical way too soon, just because Fujino still needs Habi to be around for some time. He won't want to waste an NTR-Dude doing nothing, I think. Even if we exclude Suguha, there is still Sinon who needs a new 'goal'
I mean, that's all under the assumption Fujino didn't decide to completely derail the Suguha plot-line from the expected cliches, which...he kinda did? It was shaping to be forever a not-NTR-cliche that wouldn't really ever change as so little while ago as of the "not-date" the siblings had, yet it suddenly did a 180º change that not only was completely out of left field but also went against all the logic of how NTR plots usually go, but despite a fakeout it doubled down on it with every update since them apparently. Hebishima just very clearly seems to be being set up to be removed like the poll of a while ago proposed, otherwise there would have been no need for Fujino to set not only Suguha getting free from him but also Sinon completely losing her 'slave-like' devotion for him AND him suddenly having absolutely no income and apparently being broke IRL, like, if he only wanted to keep him around still doing all that to him would make no sense, just the Suguha plot as it is would have been enough but Fujino just continues to make it seem like everything around Hebishima is collapsing like there would be no reason to do if his life getting screwed wasn't literally part of the plot :OI want to argue because I think it could go either way, tbh. It's just a feeling that things won't go the logical way too soon, just because Fujino still needs Habi to be around for some time. He won't want to waste an NTR-Dude doing nothing, I think. Even if we exclude Suguha, there is still Sinon who needs a new 'goal'
Well, the whole downwards spiral of Hebishima's life might be a set up for what we have already seen him do with Sinon. Drugging her and literally selling her off to the nearest ugly bastard for a few bucks. Fujino could have push him down to give an explanation as to why he would do the same with Suguha even if he previously acted possessive of her. Although Suguha becoming a town's whore, virtually or not, might not be what most of us wants, it could still happen.
To be clear, I don't disagree with you. Those are all valid points, and I would like things to play out that way.
Leafa related scenes seem like they can be more common. But Suguha herself is the only weird one. I'd just imagine that Hebishima is gonna stick around for a little while so that we can still find scenes of Suguha doing things. But yeah no clue where we're going. It's entirely possible the game will just speed up a lot with Asuna getting corrupted faster and faster, which would not ruin the pacing since it's like a snowball effect once the banging happens lol.To be clear, I don't disagree with you. Those are all valid points, and I would like things to play out that way.
But from a development and game flow perspective, I have my doubts. If Sugu goes fully for Kirito, I'm asking myself how far it can go and how the scenes will develop. There isn't much scene diversity to pull off from a dude just lying around. That's what makes me think that there will be someone else around Sugu. If not Hebi, then someone else needs to fill the gap. Maybe she will just work in the undercity and we will get new scenes from there, but it's a bit uninspiring, tbh. As for now, it's really hard to tell what will happen; there are way too many uncertainties. I guess we need to wait for more updates.
To be clear, I don't disagree with you. Those are all valid points, and I would like things to play out that way.
But from a development and game flow perspective, I have my doubts. If Sugu goes fully for Kirito, I'm asking myself how far it can go and how the scenes will develop. There isn't much scene diversity to pull off from a dude just lying around. That's what makes me think that there will be someone else around Sugu. If not Hebi, then someone else needs to fill the gap. Maybe she will just work in the undercity and we will get new scenes from there, but it's a bit uninspiring, tbh. As for now, it's really hard to tell what will happen; there are way too many uncertainties. I guess we need to wait for more updates.
To be completly honest, when I said that there still is a long way to go until the game ends, I was mostly speaking from a hopeful perspective that Fujino will at the very least corrupt Asuna step by step now that we have arrived to her having sex with Inoda again. He could always speed everything up, and it would be consistent with his usual games where the ntr goes by faster than a speeding bullet. It's just that I would be a bit dissapointed since I believe the approach he took with this game, slow and not always straightforward corruption, is his best work so far.
I hope you're right, I really do.^^ but I wouldn't discard the possibility that Fujino is just building up tension and leading the player down the wrong path regarding a positive outcome for Sugu, just to crush her later down the track, as it's still an NTR game. It's not like we haven't seen extreme character changes for no logical reason
For clarification the reason I dislike the addition of Administrator is because she cheapens a lot of effort Inoda did. You might not remember but a lot of random plot contrivance in Part 1 was not random, it was from Inoda's effort. Like the thugs that almost attacked Asuna they were unknowingly sent by Inoda or the Lustful Night only worked because Inoda took Kirito's spare key and researched how to properly pleasure Asuna.
True enough. If Fujino didn't showed a different possibility for Suguha then none of us here would be talking about her so much. She would be another background character like Sinon.I hope you're right, I really do.^^ but I wouldn't discard the possibility that Fujino is just building up tension and leading the player down the wrong path regarding a positive outcome for Sugu, just to crush her later down the track, as it's still an NTR game. It's not like we haven't seen extreme character changes for no logical reason
Okay, I not only played the first part as it came out, but I also recently replayed it with the new translation a few weeks ago, and I don’t remember a single bit about Inoda nudging the delinquents to assault Asuna back then. Like I have zero recollection of such a thing.
