JohnL_50

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Mar 17, 2018
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You should post this question in the incest mod's thread.

If you are sure you installed everything correctly, my only guess is that your persistent data is not compatible. You should delete the "persistent" files in both the game/save and in the <app data>/<summertime saga> folder. This will clear the cookie jar as well.
didn't work but thanks anyways. i'll try the mod thread.
 

j4yj4m

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Increase on pledges and patrons doesn't make it sustainable. The CEO said himself that the problem is how fast the whole thing is increasing which results in failing to provide the service correctly, which is why patrons and content creators have problems with
Well yes, if that's the problem they have right now, it could indeed be way worse. Growing "too fast" can be an issue but it's not excatly "failing".

Also, there are plenty of alternatives like setting paypal directlydirectly to your page, while losing around 3% of the income compared to the 10% patreon charges due to transactions. The mentality of "there's nothing better" is old and tired at this point.
That's not really an alternative though. Patreon provides a comprehensive platform where people can pledge within seconds, where creators can make an offer and where people can actually find stuff, where projects can grow etc. and right now there's no real alternative for small, growing projects which aren't popular, yet.

Else you have to understand that the whole "incest" thing happens because of for example Paypal and Stripe. Paypal and other payment processors don't want their service to be used to support incest, beastiality, "loli-content" etc. and that's why patreon cracked down on it. So there's a high chance that Paypal could deny payments to people like DC in case he wanted to use their service on his homepage. It's really important to see that the problems of the adult game community are different to those of some alt-rigth weirdos. In "our" case it's not patreon but pay/stripe/etc. who cause those problems.
 

j4yj4m

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If the whole thing falls down, you are screwed. You are putting all your eggs in one basket.
It's no different to changing now though. If you change now and people don't move because patreon is still there, you are in the same position. There's really no need to abandon patreon as long as he's among the Top 5 creators and he said several times that he won't do it until there's a viable alternative.
Putting eggs in several baskets doesn't help right now, it's just additional work and that's it. I mean, it's not like he could bring the incest back anyway, as long as the game is on patreon.

Edit: It's probably a good idea to stop here. It's been talked about a million times and there's really not that much to add.
 

j4yj4m

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Well, the reworks are necessary in more than one way. Hint: The rig system is needed for the game to stay as small as possible to stay viable for mobile uses, which grew significantly in the last year, it's needed for added flexibility later on, it finally provides one common art/animation standard, etc.

Else, DC said he talked about alternatives with his staff, but decided against it, for the reasons I mentioned. He wants to focus on the game and not bother with anything around it. If you don't agree with it, that's fine, but don't expect anything to change anytime soon.

PS: If your only source is some guy who was hurt by patreon and is now obviously obessed with them, you may reconsider a bit.
 

KillerKlown

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Increase on pledges and patrons doesn't make it sustainable. The CEO said himself that the problem is how fast the whole thing is increasing which results in failing to provide the service correctly
Incorrect: the problem is that this isn't an EXPLODING and INTERCONNECTED bussiness model. Overhead is insanely low (it's just text and pictures and letting links exist) but this isn't a site where you can a lot of top management or even lower guys just patroling the site. SV investors don't understand a bussiness model like this were all you need is twelve guys and couple of servers, and the knowledge you won't have the userbase size of snapchat or twitter.
 

petur

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To all the people crying about the game not having incest and not liking it anymore, because of that. You have a problem. You obviously didn't like the game in the first place. So i suggest you stop shitposting here and go occupy another game's thread. I am sick and tiered of retards. If you don't like a game don't play it, nobody is forcing you to or are you too stupid to realize that?

GO AWAY!

For the majority of us the game is more than a single fetish.
 

Genji

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To all the people crying about the game not having incest and not liking it anymore, because of that. You have a problem. You obviously didn't like the game in the first place. So i suggest you stop shitposting here and go occupy another game's thread. I am sick and tiered of retards. If you don't like a game don't play it, nobody is forcing you to or are you too stupid to realize that?

GO AWAY!

For the majority of us the game is more than a single fetish.
calm down kid,no one care about your opinion:LOL:
 

PatreonTed

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It is. If patreopatreon goes under now DC will lose most if not all his income at once. If you have a couple other places and you lose your patreon then at least you'll have alternatives. And seeing how popular DC is he can make a different platform popular just by being there. Funny you say it'd be a waste of time to secure his income when he wastes time redoing sprites.

Either way, I will just wait for the inevitable to happen so I can say "I told you so".
DC and his crew looked into changing platforms when they got hit with the incest ban, and found nothing reliable. If for some crazy reason Patreon shut down, then they would take the closest thing to reliable.
 

WhatAFool

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Feb 5, 2018
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Wait...am I the only one who like the new eve?
Not even remotely close but some of the people who don't care for her redesign seem to be more vocal than the people who like it. Guess that could be said for many things in life. I'm still hopeful(lol) that the whole "StEve" thing is still a possibility but I'm starting to think the librarian is the trap.

The only redesign I'm not sure about is the Mrs. Johnson one but I've only seen a little of the art so I'll withhold any judgement. She's one of the hottest milfs in the game so I hope that I'm wrong in being unsure.
 
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McSlut

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yesterday at the stream we would have gotten our chance to see the first glimpse of redesigned mia but people voted for jenny in a bikini of course

maybe it's happening today, i wonder how big her changes are going to be
 

Kenuichi

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yesterday at the stream we would have gotten our chance to see the first glimpse of redesigned mia but people voted for jenny in a bikini of course

maybe it's happening today, i wonder how big her changes are going to be
I believe DC will make her boobs look a bit more saggy and realistic like he mentioned but I really hope he will not change her face to make her look like even younger like he did with Debbie(if you remember DC refreshed Debbie and now she doesn't look like a milf anymore like before)It'd be good to make her body look like Roxxy maybe but not too skinny but I think the biggest change will be her boobs
 

WSmith

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Except incest character keep winning polls. People were here mainly and obviously for the incest,
Something about causality and correlation..... I don't care at all about incest in games (turns me off more than it turns me on), but I like Jenny best in Summertime Saga. Why? I like the interactions, a lot of her scenes tickle my fancy more than other characters do, and I don't mind the looks of her. So there you have it; it's only "obvious" because you clearly got information from one side of the coin.
 

nebsama

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Except incest character keep winning polls. People were here mainly and obviously for the incest, seeing how the first non-incest character to be developed was Roxxy, the flag character of the game.



They clearly didn't look hard enough, and I wouldn't be surprised. Also, patreon is far from being reliable, it's just popular. The whole thing can shut down at any moment, that wouldn't be reliable at all.
This is one of my biggest gripes with this games development, and its not the only one. I have no problem with extras and bonuses being decided by poll but when the whole direction of the game is, you get the same themes and characters winning over and over. All the incest characters won to start with. Then another couple of polls giving the option to go back and add to/change existing character won, you guess it for the incest characters again.

Now incest isn't my thing at all, but I dont have a problem with it being in the game, but this game is just going round in circles with the same characters and themes. I would have loved to have seen more with Judith now, or Annie for example, but we wont see them for another year at least I reckon.

After this Jenny update we have Eve which is different, then a story update, then after that I would put money on the Principal or Eriks mom winning because milfs seem to have a big big vote.

The Judith story sounds great to me, we have had a tease with her from all the way back when the game first released, but DC said her story would involve helping her gain more confidence and helping with her appearance. But we will probably never see that
 

Squark ⚧❤️

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Jun 16, 2017
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I know it's not going to happen but I wish there was a way to have the previous Eve back. Not too keen on massive thigh gap.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: I really don't think Mia needs a redesign.
 
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