Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.4468] [Kompas Productions]

[itsyeboii]

Years worth of updates since he said two months per char update. I'll quote myself from earlier.

Jenny and Debbie are already confirmed to be released together for the first update, and DC never said every update would only contain one character route. I'm not saying you don't have a point, just some corrections.

Like you said, even being generous and lumping together multiple characters per update would still take a long time at that pace. I'm hoping that because they're already 83% done with the tech-update, it'll make the updates only a matter of getting character routes playable since they're overhauled anyways, so that we get much more characters per update later on so that it takes less than two years.

Only time will tell.

 

[Xupuzulla]

Jenny and Debbie are already confirmed to be released together for the first update, and DC never said every update would only contain one character route. I'm not saying you don't have a point, just some corrections.

Like you said, even being generous and lumping together multiple characters per update would still take a long time at that pace. I'm hoping that because they're already 83% done with the tech-update, it'll make the updates only a matter of getting character routes playable since they're overhauled anyways, so that we get much more characters per update later on so that it takes less than two years.

Only time will tell.

Theres just no way they can keep up the two months release pace forever,i would be surprised if by the end of the year we are not waiting months and months for a new release.

 

[RaSSS]

Dark Cookie is an amazing artist.

I really like watching his Picarto streams, but i also think he's a very stubborn dude.

If he really has a team (which i highy doubt at this point) that helps him developing this VN, then he should have changed them by now, the team is very slow doing everything except the art.

I also think he should have hired someone to help him animate the scenes. I mean...there is a someone who is doing different animations using this game assets for some time.

 

[hisnik2]

Anyone know if newer scenes will be with sound?

 

[Senigata]

Theres just no way they can keep up the two months release pace forever,i would be surprised if by the end of the year we are not waiting months and months for a new release.

Yeah, well, that's gonna be on the patrons. Nothing any of us can do anything about.

 

[itsyeboii]

Theres just no way they can keep up the two months release pace forever,i would be surprised if by the end of the year we are not waiting months and months for a new release.

You might be right, I don't have much trust in their competence at this point.

Dark Cookie is an amazing artist.

I really like watching his Picarto streams, but i also think he's a very stubborn dude.

If he really has a team (which i highy doubt at this point) that helps him developing this VN, then he should have changed them by now, the team is very slow doing everything except the art.

I also think he should have hired someone to help him animate the scenes. I mean...there is a someone who is doing different animations using this game assets for some time.

He's stubborn and lazy, but he does have a team, they're pretty active in his Discord and streams. Whether they're a good fit for this project is another story.

Anyone know if newer scenes will be with sound?

Nah, I think the most we'll get is ambient background noises and some music, which is fine by me.

 

[Xupuzulla]

Yeah, well, that's gonna be on the patrons. Nothing any of us can do anything about.

Of course but can talk about it,right?
Is a public forum after all

 

[Antera]

HAHAHAHAAHHAA

After 2 years this game still has no update? and huge patreon support?

HAHAHAHAHA

Kudos to dev

 

[Naldicanak]

The goal will be to learn how to make Hgames to steal money from idiots hahhahahahahah

 

[Antera]

...
And?
...
You are jealous or envious about his revenue?
How much you gain in your work, in each month? If you even work, that is.
Oh wait... I dont care.
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Jealous? No

Whom am I to stand between fools and their wish to burn their money

Well you care enough to response. Go cope and seeth in corner. Way it looks games update will not come next 3-4 years.

 

[BobBoober]

What happens to the abandoned tag when an update comes that removes most of the content?
(except for a few more pixels on the left and right)
Will it be removed?
Will the (old) download with more content remain, or will the new SS get its own thread?

In my understanding of fairness, the tag should only be removed when it becomes obvious that it has really been worked on, i.e. with the 2nd tech update at the earliest.

Otherwise, it would mean that it is enough to remove content to remove the abandoned tag - that would be ridiculous.

 

[Xupuzulla]

What happens to the abandoned tag when an update comes that removes most of the content?
(except for a few more pixels on the left and right)
Will it be removed?
Will the (old) download with more content remain, or will the new SS get its own thread?

In my understanding of fairness, the tag should only be removed when it becomes obvious that it has really been worked on, i.e. with the 2nd tech update at the earliest.

Otherwise, it would mean that it is enough to remove content to remove the abandoned tag - that would be ridiculous.

Forget it,the second the new update is here the tag is gone.
This is a bullshit release to reset everything.

 

[Senigata]

Of course but can talk about it,right?
Is a public forum after all

Well, adult only, but public enough

At this point, I'll just wait for that Debbie and Jenny release to see if the whole 16:9 for Android was really worth it.

 

[templar666]

a toast to the abandoned tag

 

[AdmKnives]

Hold on, what's this about the tech update now stripping out most of the content it already had?

 

[Count Morado]

Anyone know if newer scenes will be with sound?

If you mean voice artists - no. If you mean sound effects (squishing, etc) - highly doubtful. There is already background music.

Is a public forum after all

It's not. It's a private forum that the public can read and anyone with an account can post. It is owned by F95 and managed by staff, as well as moderated to enforce the rules they set forth (that said, they've given this thread a lot of leeway for obvious reasons). In reality, they can delete all our posts if they wish, kick us out at any time they wish - for any reason they wish.

Hold on, what's this about the tech update now stripping out most of the content it already had?

That's not what is being said. See #9 here: 77,449 and if you need further clarity, make sure to read the end-of-month report for Apr 2024.

 

[GaRbS]

At this point the "tech update" is basically a full blown remake of the game, to the point that he's releasing a demo of it, which will not actually be the same game as the one currently on this thread. And all just to pacify his angry Patreons and fool F95 into removing the Abandoned tag.

In my opinion that's not how things should be, you might as well just create a new thread for that demo when/if it actually comes out, instead of counting it as a proper update for the game here, which it will not be. But that would also be to DC's benefit so I'd personally just refuse to remove the Abandoned tag as well as refuse to create a new thread until he has more to show for the remake than a goddamn demo as proof of concept for something he's supposedly been cooking up for 3 years that is still gonna use lots of already made assets that have existed for 8 years.

This situation is basically like going from Overwatch to Overwatch 2, with all that time wasted not delivering on the broken promises of what content the game would have. Except that in our case we're even worse off as we're not even getting a second full game, but just a demo instead (that still hasn't come out).

 

[Count Morado]

you might as well just create a new thread for that

I would agree to this, myself.

Until the new version catches up to all the content in the current, both are going to be listed on F95. Listing both in the same thread will cause confusion and a lot of people will ask if they need to install both to play or when they say they are having problems, we'll have to follow up and ask which version are they playing, etc etc etc -- I've seen this happen in several threads with developers who have made separate chapters or little standalones that don't have further content, etc.

Leave this one up for those who are playing the old format and put in the OP that this version will never get an update and put a link to a new thread for Summertime Saga WSE (wide-screen edition).

It will be interesting to see which of the two options F95 will decide.

... just a demo
... proof of concept

I can see why, from your perspective, you would call it a demo since it won't be all the current content in the new version right up front - but instead promised to be parsed out into chunks as they work on bugs and the like. However, calling it demo doesn't offer a full picture, either. It will be playable, it will have content (sounds like the first release will have content that could be considered comparable to what was in the game in the spring of 2017 - maybe more Jenny and Debbie and less Diane at the time, but similar). And proof of concept is far from accurate.

 

[michaelangelogago25]

Hold up, so your saying the update (that's supposed to add newer content to what the game already has) is going to strip off content which it already has???

 

[Count Morado]

Hold up, so your saying the update (that's supposed to add newer content to what the game already has) is going to strip off content which it already has???

That's not (quite) what is being said. The tech update was never supposed to add newer content. It is a TECH UPDATE, not a content update. The newer content is supposed to come after the tech update is fully released.

See #9 here: 77,449 and if you need further clarity, make sure to read the end-of-month report for Apr 2024.