Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.4468] [Kompas Productions]

[itsyeboii]

And I'm discussing with you so idk where that assumption is coming from.

You asked if Jenny was handled properly, I'm trying to tell you that yes, she objectively is. Because she fulfilled her character archetype. And people are happy with it, that's all that really matters. The route isn't well written, but I don't find it bad either. She was never set up for for a deeper storyline. Sure, I'd like to see more depth like you but my point is it's not really necessary for someone like her / storyline like hers.

We have two very different views on well handled characters - Yours is based on how good the character's writing is and mine is how well received the character is regardless of writing. It's your opinion if you didn't like the writing and that's fine, but questioning if she's well-handled when she's such a successful character? C'mon.

Maybe don't ask people if they've been playing with their eyes closed.

I'm not talking about a deeper storyline, I'm talking about depth when it comes to fulfilling her archetype. If people are happy with what they got with Jenny, then that's good. But you also have to keep in mind that she isn't necessarily popular because of how the archetype is handled, but because that archetype is the best we're gonna get and isn't generic relative to the whole game. Or simply because she's hot and it's incest.

I just think her role as a big sister bully being tamed/charmed is being held back by shitty and one dimensional writing. I get what you're saying though, her character not being a vanilla girl most likely makes her more popular. That doesn't mean she's handled well in my opinion.

Last comment tho

 

[Cervy2pervy]

give me more incest sex games pls
i need to coom

 

[hecom]

Can someone from patreon share his latest post ?

 

[Sniper010]

Hey guys, did this site actually sell out on Patreon ?

Is it really the end ?

 

[Seidou]

Hey guys, did this site actually sell out on Patreon ?

Is it really the end ?

No it's an april fools joke XD

 

[Sniper010]

No it's an april fools joke XD

I was so afraid

 

[granny gumjobs]

Can someone from patreon share his latest post ?

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[HaloRio]

I had my son when i played 20.16 and now we make plan to have new baby and still 20.16

 

[Xupuzulla]

We are finally in april,the abandoned tag is closer than ever

 

[SenkuIshigami]

Maybe don't ask people if they've been playing with their eyes closed.

Because you said something blatantly wrong and I wouldn't have responded so bluntly. You said you would like if Jenny was somewhat submissive in the dom route, implying she wasn't, which is wrong. She is clearly a little submissive on the dom route. She gives in to MCs demands and enjoys it.

she isn't necessarily popular because of how the archetype is handled, but because that archetype is the best we're gonna get and isn't generic relative to the whole game. Or simply because she's hot and it's incest.

It is precisely the fact that Jenny's archetype is handled well that made Jenny popular. Same for Roxxy. Most people aren't going to like a mean girl for the sake of it, there has to be a certain degree of well-handled character in there to make them so successful.
That archetype is not really the best, it's actually polarising and even a little controversial considering how some people still whine about Jenny. The nice girl archetype is more popular like Eve or even Judith. Again, she's not carried by her archetype or even incest (otherwise Debbie and Diane would be just as popular as her), she's just handled well.

 

[The Grad]

We are finally in april,the abandoned tag is closer than ever

How long does it take for abandoned or on-hold tags?

 

[j4yj4m]

It is precisely the fact that Jenny's archetype is handled well that made Jenny popular.

In this case I'd indeed fully disagree. As said, Jenny was popular way before she even had a real story (I'm sure you remember the mess before DC reworked it) and got most of her scenes before it was even clear, where her story would go. Back then many people actually expected her story to be similar to Roxxy and a lot were disappointed when it became clear, that she wouldn't become nice and sweet towards MC.

Looking at the tech update scene polls it's totally safe to say, that by now Jenny is somewhere in the middle when it comes to popularity, given that she got 6th place two times and never came close to the top 3. Eve and Roxxy beat her by a massive margin and you can expect the same once more school girls get their full stories.

As such I wouldn't be surprised if Jenny's story, as it is now, will be regarded as once the weakest out of all the main girls, once the game is actually completed.

 

[SenkuIshigami]

a lot were disappointed when it became clear, that she wouldn't become nice and sweet towards MC.

But she maintained her immense popularity regardless. Being the among the first to have content isn't as big of an advantage as you think, look at Roxxy and especially Eve, who received content much later but are up there with Jenny in popularity.
Also there are many more new players post-2019 compared to veterans in 2017-18. They had more options when playing so Jenny no longer had that advantage of being one of the few girls with scenes. Yet she remains very successful.

It can't really be incest either otherwise Debbie and Diane would as popular as her, not to mention incest was removed years ago. So after everything, Jenny has remained so popular among fans means DC did something right with the character and her archetype. She is by definition well-handled, not exactly well-written I agree. Those are two different things imo, well handled ≠ well written. She can be handled well without being written well.

 

[DickCheese420]

 

[Count Morado]

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while dildorog's animations are nice ... there is a thread created specifically to share the art.

 

[DickCheese420]

while dildorog's animations are nice ... there is a thread created specifically to share the art.

Isn't it better to see a bit of dildorog goodness from time to time here, rather than the usual ranting against the creator of this game because there is 0 content for a while?

 

[j4yj4m]

But she maintained her immense popularity regardless. Being the among the first to have content isn't as big of an advantage as you think, look at Roxxy and especially Eve, who received content much later but are up there with Jenny in popularity.
Also there are many more new players post-2019 compared to veterans in 2017-18. They had more options when playing so Jenny no longer had that advantage of being one of the few girls with scenes. Yet she remains very successful.

I'm not sure how you even know, how much people like her right now or indeed ever since she got her last update. As said, she came 6th in the last polls where she did compete and to me that's a decent indicator.

It can't really be incest either otherwise Debbie and Diane would as popular as her, not to mention incest was removed years ago.

Both Diane and Debbie actually beat her in these said tech update polls, albeit only by small margins. As far as I see it, it's pretty fair to say, that all of these three are more or less equally popular?

Those are two different things imo, well handled ≠ well written. She can be handled well without being written well.

While that's true, I'd still disagree a bit. The fact that her branch has choices, which combined only lead to a minor difference, is a really good example of how characters shouldn't be handled.

 

[Count Morado]

Isn't it better to see a bit of dildorog goodness from time to time here, rather than the usual ranting against the creator of this game because there is 0 content for a while?

Perhaps - but since you haven't posted any of these where they are supposed to, I didn't know if you were aware there was an actual thread where these go.

 

[Digga D]

I'm not sure how you even know, how much people like her right now or indeed ever since she got her last update. As said, she came 6th in the last polls where she did compete and to me that's a decent indicator.

Both Diane and Debbie actually beat her in these said tech update polls, albeit only by small margins. As far as I see it, it's pretty fair to say, that all of these three are more or less equally popular?

They are voting for scenes, it's not really a popularity poll. People will try to vote other girls over the one who already has 20+ scenes. And how do we know she's so popular? Jenny gets way more attention across the internet than any other girl and it's not even close. Look up StS videos and you'll find Jenny gets a ridiculous amount of views, one of them even has 35 million views. Debbie is like second and she doesn't even get half of that

 

[j4yj4m]

They are voting for scenes, it's not really a popularity poll. People will try to vote other girls over the one who already has 20+ scenes

Well, if you'd want more content for Jenny, you'd vote for her in the first place. Eve has quite a few scenes as well and yet she topped all of these polls by a huge margin.

And how do we know she's so popular? Jenny gets way more attention across the internet than any other girl and it's not even close. Look up StS videos and you'll find Jenny gets a ridiculous amount of views, one of them even has 35 million views. Debbie is like second and she doesn't even get half of that

I don't think it's that clear across the board either and - in that context - we are back to the whole incest topic. As far as I recall that's what many videos hint at (calling her sister/step sister/etc.). Sure, if you are into incest, then she's MC's only sister in the game. But that's a point which isn't connected to anything but her status and the incest fetish. It doesn't concern how well her story is written or how well her story is handled.

I'd actually guess - and that's just a guess - that any somewhat decent character would get the same clicks if you introduced her as MC's sister and tagged it correctly. It's simply a popular fetish, there's no denying that.