POLL: Controversial Fetishes: Queen of Spades vs Queen of Clovers (Possibly New)
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Racism is all over porn, so sure, why not add it to the mix? lol
We all like what/who we like. And there's nothing wrong with attraction. But, turning attraction to skin color into a fetish and using it to make money (the porn industry) does bug me. (IR gangbang creampies, as an example)...
But, then people would likely say I'm kink shaming if I exclaim my distaste for IR as a fetish. lol
So, ....I guess, to each their own.
We all like what/who we like. And there's nothing wrong with attraction. But, turning attraction to skin color into a fetish and using it to make money (the porn industry) does bug me. (IR gangbang creampies, as an example)...
But, then people would likely say I'm kink shaming if I exclaim my distaste for IR as a fetish. lol
So, ....I guess, to each their own.
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As someone who writes raceplay harem series', the interesting thing I've learned is I've gotten way more fan mail from non-white men than white men who enjoyed my stories and characters. Granted, this is anecdotal but it honestly was not what I expected when I wrote stories that involved the kink. The same goes for commissions.
I don't generally use the Queen of Hearts fetish, or Queen of Diamonds as I named in a couple stories, simply because I'm not into tattoos and are a turnoff. So for your poll that is something to consider where someone can enjoy the kink but hate the tattoos which ruins the experience. But then if you don't use the tattoos you risk losing out the ones who want the tats. Balancing act.
I don't generally use the Queen of Hearts fetish, or Queen of Diamonds as I named in a couple stories, simply because I'm not into tattoos and are a turnoff. So for your poll that is something to consider where someone can enjoy the kink but hate the tattoos which ruins the experience. But then if you don't use the tattoos you risk losing out the ones who want the tats. Balancing act.
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(I'm guessing that you are French, as that is the tongue which speaks of "clover" instead of Club or Kreuz.)
NEXIVM kind of turned this into real life.
I'd LOVE to see a QoC harem game. My personal fantasy since I was about 10-12 was to have 3 women. Blond Nordic, red-haired Spanish, and black-haired Asian.
Kind of like a sexual "Charlie's Angels" type of group marriage. Now that I've discovered Mormonism, 3 wives is totally doable!
I just need to find that Asian....
NEXIVM kind of turned this into real life.
I'd LOVE to see a QoC harem game. My personal fantasy since I was about 10-12 was to have 3 women. Blond Nordic, red-haired Spanish, and black-haired Asian.
Kind of like a sexual "Charlie's Angels" type of group marriage. Now that I've discovered Mormonism, 3 wives is totally doable!
I just need to find that Asian....
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That doesn't surprise me, it looks like a lot of the white-submission raceplay games appeal mostly to a subgrouping of white masochistic submissives. I don't think it's coincidence that most of those games like New Beijing have a white MC. It's kinda parallel how the typical harem collecter MC is also white, just a different sector of the market.
There've been a few BLM protests where I live, so I've bickered with a few of them over historical inaccuracies in their slogans (yes I'm a really disagreeable bitch, bite me) and I absolutely got the impression that some of them clang to certain historical myths (minutiae really, my views on Trans-Atlantic slavery are not contrarian) not for intellectual but for psychosexual reasons: they were masochists who experienced occasional arousal on some level from certain popular depictions of black submission.
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I'm gonna tell you something. I'm Mexican, and living here in México has made me realize a lot of things about woman preference to race.
And it's interesting, because there is a phrase that is predominantly heard when we talk about relationship and marrying:
"Mejorar la raza" = "make a better race" meaning a marrying to a white skinned woman or man is way better than marrying to a dark skinned.
Also, there is the thing about Hispanics and all the race mixing Spaniards had a fetish with during colony.
TBH, I fully support this queen of clovers thing, not for political BS, but because it's Hot.
Must admit, I can also get behind blacked shit, since I'm Hispanic I can play both sides and always win. But I completely hate the cringe black superiority half of the blacked community has. They forget all the hot things and replace it with cringe Nazi like speech.
However, it's also funny and ironic that they think you are racist for hating QoS when liking it is actually more racist.
Tell me a single one Vanilla where MC is a black guy and not some bully, robber, scum, or represented as the villain.
Anyway. While talking about this I'd so like to talk about some project I also had in mind.
NTRlegend is a good game, so good other 2 guys started doing similar games to it. Thus I want to be the third. However, I want to go further.
A game where you play as either a white guy who likes craft and has always been surrounded by women.
Or a black guys with big brain but never has got a girlfriend and is virgin. However, he has read a ton of H and trained.
Both Americans arrive to Japan and meet a family of four.
Two girls, two dudes.
Game is about corrupting the 4, going for the mother and sister, then turning the younger son into a sissy and a then a tomgirl, and later turning the father into a shemale or futanari. You can also change the race of the family.
Adding a similar build to NTRlegend and NTRholic.
It's a very early project, I need to work on pixel art, I can draw, but I never used pixel art but I felt it easier than full art.
And it's interesting, because there is a phrase that is predominantly heard when we talk about relationship and marrying:
"Mejorar la raza" = "make a better race" meaning a marrying to a white skinned woman or man is way better than marrying to a dark skinned.
Also, there is the thing about Hispanics and all the race mixing Spaniards had a fetish with during colony.
TBH, I fully support this queen of clovers thing, not for political BS, but because it's Hot.
Must admit, I can also get behind blacked shit, since I'm Hispanic I can play both sides and always win. But I completely hate the cringe black superiority half of the blacked community has. They forget all the hot things and replace it with cringe Nazi like speech.
However, it's also funny and ironic that they think you are racist for hating QoS when liking it is actually more racist.
Tell me a single one Vanilla where MC is a black guy and not some bully, robber, scum, or represented as the villain.
Anyway. While talking about this I'd so like to talk about some project I also had in mind.
NTRlegend is a good game, so good other 2 guys started doing similar games to it. Thus I want to be the third. However, I want to go further.
A game where you play as either a white guy who likes craft and has always been surrounded by women.
Or a black guys with big brain but never has got a girlfriend and is virgin. However, he has read a ton of H and trained.
Both Americans arrive to Japan and meet a family of four.
Two girls, two dudes.
Game is about corrupting the 4, going for the mother and sister, then turning the younger son into a sissy and a then a tomgirl, and later turning the father into a shemale or futanari. You can also change the race of the family.
Adding a similar build to NTRlegend and NTRholic.
It's a very early project, I need to work on pixel art, I can draw, but I never used pixel art but I felt it easier than full art.
Since the QoS fetish is already quite popular, I don't see why Queen of Clovers/Hearts shouldn't be a thing to balance each other out. Before Tumblr got rid of it's NSFW content, there was quite alot of... eeeeeh... Iffy extreme stuff regarding raceplay, I'm talking "Wind up on some watch-list" type stuff. But it was still A-okay since most people said "It's just a harmless fantasy - chill!"
Thus, I'm okay with both QoS content aswell as QoC stuff.
P.S Twitter is no exception either, though some of the raceplay fetishists on there, give of strong white guilt vibes, so much so I can taste it at times!
Some QoS themed games do come off as "copies" of themselves. You know how it goes "White passive submissive weak loser of a husband. A bombshell white wife and a thug-ish (half braindead sometimes) black boyfriend."
Not complaining mind you, just that I can't help but feel bad for the white cuck! xD Like if he was a disgusting trash human being, then fuck yeah - get cucked. Same goes for the black boyfriend, why can't he be an ordinary retail worker from Best-buy who doesn't talk in ebonics?
In short, try new things with these fetishes - story and gameplay wise (VN gets old quickly, especially low effort 3D renders). Then I'll be one happy attic dweller!
Thus, I'm okay with both QoS content aswell as QoC stuff.
P.S Twitter is no exception either, though some of the raceplay fetishists on there, give of strong white guilt vibes, so much so I can taste it at times!
Some QoS themed games do come off as "copies" of themselves. You know how it goes "White passive submissive weak loser of a husband. A bombshell white wife and a thug-ish (half braindead sometimes) black boyfriend."
Not complaining mind you, just that I can't help but feel bad for the white cuck! xD Like if he was a disgusting trash human being, then fuck yeah - get cucked. Same goes for the black boyfriend, why can't he be an ordinary retail worker from Best-buy who doesn't talk in ebonics?
In short, try new things with these fetishes - story and gameplay wise (VN gets old quickly, especially low effort 3D renders). Then I'll be one happy attic dweller!
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Love is love, no matter what...yes..this is true....but...I've sometimes thought about the fact that if every race eventually breeds with every race, we would eventually all be just one race (or the same mix of races). There would be no such thing as racism, at that point, because every human would all be the exact same. It is definitely possible to simply breed out racism...though it's not really feasible. lol
that's not 1000 pourcent true i'm 25/100 black our grandmothers was full BLack from haïtis our grndfahher white so my father is mixed is more light skinned than my grandmother my mother is white and i live in France the really vast majority of the people think i'm white but from south like italia spain or even south of France so if i mixe whith a white woman our child will most likely be even more white so i even got the , green eyes of my mothers so it shows that even in the second generations of mixing you can have white traits.