RPGM Abandoned Petals of Rose [v0.2A UNFINISHED] [Yoshiiki]

[TomberryDude]

I said the plot is predictable because unless the reason for Rose being the way she is being something completely random that has nothing to do with the story presented so far there's only one logical explanation, really.

I have to say I didn't really feel the relationship with Gav. Maybe that's just me but doing the same couple of minigames 4 times and saying a week passed between each training and not showing any of it... It's actually one part of the game I feel could do with being a little slower. Maybe have Gav throw you in a dungeon for training. At least have some variety. And eating snake while answering zero of Rose's questions didn't really scream "they're special to each other". If anything I feel Rose has a closer friendship with The bear and Marley.

There are a few things that don't make sense to me also but I don't know how much of it is just early development weirdness or what. And after downloading the demo and checking out the readme I get why you want to slow the sluttification down. I was worried when I read that before playing anything because usually these games all make the same mistake of blueballing the player for 7 hours before you can rarely suck a dick or something. As it stands the Inn scenes escalate hilariously fast from getting gropped a bit to getting finger raped and then willingly throwing herself into a gangbang 2 scenes later.

I really appreciate that Rose starts the game in a sexual way. That's a welcome change from an 18-ish year old girl that not only knows nothing about sex but fears it like the pest. I also love that you can have lots of sex and still decide to do "good" deeds. Be heroic and stuff. At least in one or 2 choices so far. I like that Rose keeps agency in her actions, most of the times she does stuff because she choses to. Makes her feel more real. Finally, I like the characters in general. The bear's wife nonwhithstanding they're pretty cool and likeable for the most part.

 

[mur]

Looking good.
Keep up the good work.

Some notes:
- Way too many cutscenes and no user input
- "Karma gained/lossed" font, not very readable
Maybe use the "Week #" font and/or use different color
- And there's something wrong with the game or engine, because it's using way too much CPU

Found 1 visual bug on the Mac version:

btw, game doesn't run for Mac without changing file permissions.
Use terminal and "chmod +x ":

Game.app/Contents/MacOS/nwjs
Game.app/Contents/Frameworks/nwjs\ Helper​

 

[Yoshiiki]

I said the plot is predictable because unless the reason for Rose being the way she is being something completely random that has nothing to do with the story presented so far there's only one logical explanation, really.

Well, Rose is just a wedge that put herself where she shouldn't be, but had to be because she is literally pushed by player. Also, keep in mind there is slow introduction to gods and oh boy, those are some bored fuckers that are annoyed someone fucked with them. Anymore and I will spoil everything XD

I have to say I didn't really feel the relationship with Gav. Maybe that's just me but doing the same couple of minigames 4 times and saying a week passed between each training and not showing any of it... It's actually one part of the game I feel could do with being a little slower. Maybe have Gav throw you in a dungeon for training. At least have some variety. And eating snake while answering zero of Rose's questions didn't really scream "they're special to each other". If anything I feel Rose has a closer friendship with The bear and Marley.

I really wanted to avoid that and tried stretching it but I was already half a month before my planned deadline, so it seems my assumption of time needed was correct. Though, if I will find some extra time, I may add some more content to this, maybe some small battles or some other forms of training to properly stretch all of it.
Though, if I do, I will probably let players go back to it without starting a new game.

There are a few things that don't make sense to me also but I don't know how much of it is just early development weirdness or what. And after downloading the demo and checking out the readme I get why you want to slow the sluttification down. I was worried when I read that before playing anything because usually these games all make the same mistake of blueballing the player for 7 hours before you can rarely suck a dick or something. As it stands the Inn scenes escalate hilariously fast from getting gropped a bit to getting finger raped and then willingly throwing herself into a gangbang 2 scenes later.

Yeah, but you are forgetting when that finger raped scene would take place, in a normal play through, it would be much, much further in terms of gametime. While degeneration is going to be slow, there won't be any repetitive tasks in porn scenes. Also, due to amount of side events I plan, I will be adding them to quest tracker, so a player knows when to get back where.
So I am trying to mix few things, first one is event setup, so more or less player knows what he/she may get into. Second one being amount of events to do, so there is always something new/fun to check. Third, event's nature itself, while it's different getting Rose into something she wants to, forcing her and/or forcing her but she doesn't resist. This way I can add some spicy things earlier (like whole extra section in last maid event, that had a lot to do with Elsha being pushy and Rose being too curious. Wouldn't work so well if those were bandits forcing her, right?).
Plus, there is a huge difference in exhibitionism and shame, to expand on it, being a slut doesn't mean she will stroll around town naked but will join a gangbang and vice versa. Plus, certain items do influence things, like special masks that cover her face... well, now you can make her wear something more extreme even though her stats wouldn't normally allow it, but she will refuse to take that mask off until she changes clothes to something not as perverted.
Now, imagine using that mask during striptease event and you can get some things earlier.
But that assuming a player did some other event, to gain that mask... Little things like that, so a player is busy all the time, but not grinding same event over and over.

I really appreciate that Rose starts the game in a sexual way. That's a welcome change from an 18-ish year old girl that not only knows nothing about sex but fears it like the pest. I also love that you can have lots of sex and still decide to do "good" deeds. Be heroic and stuff. At least in one or 2 choices so far. I like that Rose keeps agency in her actions, most of the times she does stuff because she choses to. Makes her feel more real. Finally, I like the characters in general. The bear's wife nonwhithstanding they're pretty cool and likeable for the most part.

Ok, I will probably take a jab at some other devs here with what I am going to say, but as I am not going to point a finger, if it bothers them then there must be a good reason for it
That's how the girls are, women are perverted as fuck, but not in a same way as men are. I had my dick wet more than once and maybe that's why I can make her more believable and not be some pure princess that for 18+ years never learned what a dick is. And yes, a girl can be really active sexually and not act like that bitch from highschool that was annoying, so she had to be a whore. Dunno, maybe mix of having some background in tabletop rpgs and some acting helped with that, but I generally try to predict how each chara would act in certain situations based on their character. A little rant from me, but I agree that female MCs in games often act in a really unnatural manner.

Looking good.
Keep up the good work.

I will, or at least try

Some notes:
- Way too many cutscenes and no user input
- "Karma gained/lossed" font, not very readable
Maybe use the "Week #" font and/or use different color
- And there's something wrong with the game or engine, because it's using way too much CPU

- Cutscenes thing was talked/explained in earlier posts.
- Hmm... It could be... Though I think that colors and music should help with getting the point across. Also, it's mostly during first parts of the game, so a player is aware of karma, there are already parts when notification doesn't pop up and stat is being changed. The same reason why it isn't visible and just set as "???"
- That highly depends on CPU and resources available to the game. I can't do much if CPU is for example, weak or already under high performance. Would need to know what it exactly is to estimate if it can work without issues.

Found 1 visual bug on the Mac version:

Already answered in earlier post to that.

btw, game doesn't run for Mac without changing file permissions.
Use terminal and "chmod +x ":

Game.app/Contents/MacOS/nwjs
Game.app/Contents/Frameworks/nwjs\ Helper​

Well, mac is just edited unix, so similar method is needed. Anyway, since demo I didn't had time to check mac version, I do have a mac on VM, but due to interest being around zero, I left it for now and I said it here and there.
But I will note that down and keep alongside linux instructions that apparently I forgot to include with the game.

 

[Fantasticfish]

i like the art the girl looks cute which is a plus for me i get a laugh out of some scenes and a good karma system is always something i look forward to in a game while this is still far from complete i hope it wont be one of those games that start with a good idea and then never pay off in the end

 

[psycohunter96]

how do you decrease your stats to get the bar scenes???

 

[cavaemon]

While a scene related to pregnancy is planned (though, that's around endgame so it can still change) the game itself won't have it as a kink. One of the reason being: not my kink - and I don't try forcing ones I do not like/understand myself, because it will be poorly done. Don't build buildings if you have no idea on the topic
Then comes technical issue as it would mean making additional images... Considering amount of clothes right now and fact that each clothing has different levels of damage... Around 600 images. So a month of work.
Unless I change the lore that already is written but not completely revealed, Rose can and can't get pregnant. Doesn't make much sense? It does when you can see whole lore like I do... though, a reason is pretty much said so far:
For those that finished the game as far as release lets to do so

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Technically... Until first sex she is a virgin (also, I don't need to add virginity loss with blood to every single event XD).

yeah man no its all good I mean its going smooth so just seeing if any other things were in the works lol but yeah its got plenty of love put into it so keep it up btw I love rpgm its got ton and I mean TONS of applications for games but I like the way its being used by your team and its fun lol

 

[Yoshiiki]

i like the art the girl looks cute which is a plus for me i get a laugh out of some scenes and a good karma system is always something i look forward to in a game while this is still far from complete i hope it wont be one of those games that start with a good idea and then never pay off in the end

Well, I am not going to run around and ask what to put in, story is finished "on paper". I already have quite a list of events, mostly for side ones I decide which one will go where before putting them as sometimes some suit certain parts of the world better.
I personally think I have good idea for branching/karma system that will pay off, mostly because the game changes as the player plays, not just the ending. We will see if I am wrong or not

how do you decrease your stats to get the bar scenes???

Because there aren't enough events in game to decrease stats genuinely, you will have to use debug npcs behind the mansion. They are unlocked after maid event is done (so After Rose get's her Adventurer's outfit)

yeah man no its all good I mean its going smooth so just seeing if any other things were in the works lol but yeah its got plenty of love put into it so keep it up btw I love rpgm its got ton and I mean TONS of applications for games but I like the way its being used by your team and its fun lol

Ha, thanks. But there is no team, only me so far
There is a list of things that won't be in game, because of same/other reasons:
won't be:

preggo
vore
gore (due to technical limitations as it would need tons of extra images)
NTR (no BF/husband for that, otherwise - why not?)
skat
vomit
golden shower
futa (no heroine being a futa, maybe done in by futa or maybe magical dicks... maybe)

Will be:

General whoring
exhibitionism
gangbang
dp
dance/striptease <- lot's of this
rape
monster rape/sex
brothels
waitress/bar
onsen

Of course, I am certain that there are some things for both lists that I missed. For example, gokkun already was put in the game, yet it's not on the list.
Anyway, weekend is just behind the corner. I think I will try using some extra time to create a walkthrough... though it will be in html form, otherwise it will be really hard to navigate due to story branching. Probably two different ones, as one for side events and one for story events.

 

[cavaemon]

Because there aren't enough events in game to decrease stats genuinely, you will have to use debug npcs behind the mansion. They are unlocked after maid event is done (so After Rose get's her Adventurer's outfit)


Ha, thanks. But there is no team, only me so far
There is a list of things that won't be in game, because of same/other reasons:
won't be:

preggo
vore
gore (due to technical limitations as it would need tons of extra images)
NTR (no BF/husband for that, otherwise - why not?)
skat
vomit
golden shower
futa (no heroine being a futa, maybe done in by futa or maybe magical dicks... maybe)

Will be:

General whoring
exhibitionism
gangbang
dp
dance/striptease <- lot's of this
rape
monster rape/sex
brothels
waitress/bar
onsen

Of course, I am certain that there are some things for both lists that I missed. For example, gokkun already was put in the game, yet it's not on the list.
Anyway, weekend is just behind the corner. I think I will try using some extra time to create a walkthrough... though it will be in html form, otherwise it will be really hard to navigate due to story branching. Probably two different ones, as one for side events and one for story events.

HOLY SHIT YOUR AWESOME! lol welp greater even more lol

 

[Yoshiiki]

HOLY SHIT YOUR AWESOME! lol welp greater even more lol

Please, don't pat ego of devs, they tend to start acting like huge dickheads when things like that go to their heads xD
Joking of course (kinda... not really... ok, not at all). But thanks, morale boosts helps too!

 

[Darkarhon]

Hmm futa can be added since there is magic, it doesn't have to be genetic(aka born with a penis). How you would go with this tho its up to anyones guess.

For example a mage or a demon can magically create a penis to use to fuck the protagonist or a different npc.

That said, I hate you for that cliffhanger T_T I wanted to see what would happen after the wolf guy died (I am gonna miss that guy he was funny plus he totally felt like an older brother)[he also felt really similar to Guts from Berserker manga/anime].

Oh well I am really looking forward to the rest, what's there gives a really good impression. Good Luck

 

[LastSonOfPersia]

The text speed is a bit to slow,movemet of the characters between the scenes,and the scenes themselfs a bit to slow

 

[Yoshiiki]

Hmm futa can be added since there is magic, it doesn't have to be genetic(aka born with a penis). How you would go with this tho its up to anyones guess.

For example a mage or a demon can magically create a penis to use to fuck the protagonist or a different npc.

If, then rather it will be in a same manner that human enemies will be pumped up to make a threat as main bad couple has a really twisted sense of humor. Though, I am still waging idea of futa in Marley x Rose scene. So who knows?

That said, I hate you for that cliffhanger T_T I wanted to see what would happen after the wolf guy died (I am gonna miss that guy he was funny plus he totally felt like an older brother)[he also felt really similar to Guts from Berserker manga/anime].

Well, otherwise it wouldn't be a cliffhanger
Hmm... What would happen? It's quite easy to tell, before game ended, she was still in denial. But, I do not know what will exactly happen... I only know all possible outcomes that can happen
His sword was obvious nod to the series (there are more than few nods to some other things, not every so obvious as that Dragon Slayer reference. Whole Marley scene in that court is one big reference in itself )

Oh well I am really looking forward to the rest, what's there gives a really good impression. Good Luck

Thanks.

The text speed is a bit to slow,movemet of the characters between the scenes,and the scenes themselfs a bit to slow

I wanted to say, just change text speed in options, but I realized it was something added to next release I am working on
I could speed everything up, but that's not the point. I do take some data based on average speed of recognizing certain elements on screen and tune things to that. Not everyone is the same and it's not possible to make it ideal for everyone. Though, I am trying, that's why next release will have option for text speed, plus few other things.

 

[Darthjake]

I like this so far, yes it is a bit slow, but as has been said you are building the story. Nice to know about the debug npcs, I missed those the first playthrough. I'm a bit slow, it took a few times to get the hang of Gav's "training" but once you've got it, it's no sweat. I dunno at the risk of annoying the ones who say it goes to slow, I'd almost prefer a slower buildup in the bar.

Make it sort of dependent on how far you've gotten in the mansion scene, I mean once she's seen the Baron banging his wife she might be a bit more open on letting the guys play with her boobs. And yeah I caught a few "engrish" errors mainly stuff that yeah, a good proofreader would catch like strength being mispelled is the one that sticks in my mine. I'll play through it again tomorrow, and see about sending you an email on patron.

Edit: Also may or may not be something you are aware of, for giggles I tried summoning her servant in the fight with the goblins. I ended up with 2 Roses, and also a ton of errors for missing images that made it impossible for the game to progress after the end of combat. So I reloaded and tossed a few fireballs and swung my sword like an honest adventurer and vanquished the wee beasties.

 

[Yoshiiki]

I like this so far, yes it is a bit slow, but as has been said you are building the story. Nice to know about the debug npcs, I missed those the first playthrough. I'm a bit slow, it took a few times to get the hang of Gav's "training" but once you've got it, it's no sweat. I dunno at the risk of annoying the ones who say it goes to slow, I'd almost prefer a slower buildup in the bar.

Well, keep in mind that third day, scene where she is attacked by customers would take place... Much after the Chapter One due to lack of stats. So it's off when it's just one after another XD

Make it sort of dependent on how far you've gotten in the mansion scene, I mean once she's seen the Baron banging his wife she might be a bit more open on letting the guys play with her boobs. And yeah I caught a few "engrish" errors mainly stuff that yeah, a good proofreader would catch like strength being mispelled is the one that sticks in my mine. I'll play through it again tomorrow, and see about sending you an email on patron.

Well, she can be more open in the tavern if event is started with higher ero stats. That one can be started at any point in game. There is a huge distinction in what Rose will agree to do in small, private situations... Tavern is different, it's surrounded by some customers she barely knows.
I know this is something that will be coming back, but...
I am aware of standards set by hundreds of other games in terms of corruption. After playing too many of them, it really sums up to "go there, gain points, repeat until all scenes are unlocked". It gets tedious after some time, so it's better to be able to play the game. Can't get new event scene? A player usually searches for other means to corrupt MC more... Then there is that even and that one or that one until it gets to a point that new scenes are unlocked. During all of that nothing is repeated and there is always something different to do. At least, this is what I want to achieve.

Edit: Also may or may not be something you are aware of, for giggles I tried summoning her servant in the fight with the goblins. I ended up with 2 Roses, and also a ton of errors for missing images that made it impossible for the game to progress after the end of combat. So I reloaded and tossed a few fireballs and swung my sword like an honest adventurer and vanquished the wee beasties.

Yeah, I am trying to figure out what the fuck rpgm problem is XD
I blocked summoning, because I didn't had time to add additional content between Rose and Gavril in case she summons Ro'Medantis (plus I could skip his sprites for battles). For some weird reason, engine decided "fuck you, I am doing whatever I want". Reason why Rose shows twice is a counter measure so game doesn't crash when searching for extra actor.
I think I will simply add some inner-monologue from Rose that she shouldn't summon it, remove skill and bring it back later.

 

[Jowyy]

Hello nice game .

 

[Yoshiiki]

. Too verbose. The biggest problem I had playing this is that the game takes 4 sentences on average to say things it could say in 1. Not only that but a lot of stuff gets repeated. Sometimes in another cutscene shortly after or in the same one that's going on. That's infuriating and just makes me want to skip most of the dialogue.

Ok, I took a look at that.
Some of it (not all) is related to the fact that dialogue isn't always the same. Depending on choices, bigger chunks of it can be different, there can be some additional text and so on.
It kinda breaks the flow when writing, so there is that. Though, I will try keeping an eye for it anyway. Just in a same way I try keeping dialogues seamless, so a player doesn't realize he got something different due to his choices.

 

[LastSonOfPersia]

There is a bug with the Inn scene, i used the cheat behind mansion to lower my shame,and when I start the bar scene this pops up Loading error, Failed to load:img/pictures/510undefined0.png

 

[Yoshiiki]

Hmm... The game tries to find weapon image for dialogue sprite (Vizar's Rapier to be exact).
For now you can create file named like that in "pictures" folder... Though, I did some edits to the game now, so in case of image error, it shows default image error (rather than annoying error pop up).
I will take a look at code for that, figure out "why" and probably drop it as a hotfix as it could show up in other places too.

EDIT:
Hotfix #8

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[luccargar]

 

[Yoshiiki]

--snipped--

This is weird... I can see pointer for a table, but no one inside the inn... This is weird. Mostly because she can't have a weapon during that scene as it should be locked and taken away for that. I will have to check it out.