Manga Completed Otouto no Koibito ga Mukashi Choukyou Shita Motokano datta [Part 1-2] [Crimson CROWN (Imazon)]

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Overview:
A schoolgirl Aoi Yumikura lives happily with her boyfriend Kazuki Satou.
But one day, when Kazuki introduces his big brother to Aoi in the house, she freezes.
The big brother is, in fact, her former boyfriend who treated her just like his toy.​

Updated: 2020-09-26
Developer/Publisher: Crimson CROWN (Imazon)
Censorship: Yes (Mosaic)
Language: English
Resolution: 1140 x 1600
Pages: 58
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u z i 3 8 5 4 Needs a rape tag. And a blackmail tag. It's rape under the threat of blackmail, multiple separate threats of blackmail even, also she tells him no and to stop numerous times during sex.

Consent is really simple: You have to say yes, not just not say no (in this she explicitly said no multiple times), you can't be threatened while doing it, and you can't be under the influence of anything that would alter your ability to make decisions. Lastly, it can be withdrawn at any time.

No consent + penetration = rape.

The majority of the pages of this manga have rape on it. Prominently.
 

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u z i 3 8 5 4 Needs a rape tag. And a blackmail tag. It's rape under the threat of blackmail, multiple separate threats of blackmail even, also she tells him no and to stop numerous times during sex.

Consent is really simple: You have to say yes, not just not say no (in this she explicitly said no multiple times), you can't be threatened while doing it, and you can't be under the influence of anything that would alter your ability to make decisions. Lastly, it can be withdrawn at any time.

No consent + penetration = rape.

The majority of the pages of this manga have rape on it. Prominently.
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okay i read the manga (should have done that beforehand, my bad) and i would have to agree with the doctor. it's not really rape and hence have removed the tag. blackmail's correct
 
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okay i read the manga (should have done that beforehand, my bad) and i would have to agree with the doctor. it's not really rape and hence have removed the tag. blackmail's correct
Your judgement goes against site tagging rules:
"Rape [Forced or non-consensual sex.]"

This is clearly non-consensual sex as I outlined above. It should therefore be tagged as rape. If you disagree with the rules then you should discuss it with the moderators and staff who make the tagging rules. Just because people who read hentai don't want to call rape under threat of blackmail rape, or don't want to call rape due to withdrawn consent rape, means nothing. It's still rape. According to the law, and according to this sites rules. Wanting it not tagged is intentional minimization of rape and misrepresentation of consent, and that's pretty gross. Look at the content all you want, no kink shaming here, but talk about it honestly.

Also note, multiple tags can be appropriate for the same event. In this instance it is blackmail leading to rape, so it requires both tags.

Even if there was no blackmail, if consent is revoked and the sex doesn't stop it is rape. The idea that BECAUSE the person is a victim of blackmail then sex where consent is withdrawn isn't rape, but if consent is withdrawn without blackmail it is rape is incredibly flawed thinking.

The rules are clear. Non-con sex is rape. You can't consent when threatened. So it is rape. She also tells the guy to stop and he doesn't. That on it's own is rape. It's a rape double whammy. Rape doesn't have to be violent, pretending it does minimizes rape. I mean read the rule "Forced OR non-consensual". Kinda confirms that it doesn't have to be forced to be tagged as rape on this site.

Back to the multiple tags thing, if it was a violent rape then you could tag it with violence and rape, and so we are clear, even if she then did the hentai thing and went all "my hips are moving on their own" or "uwahh now I'm addicted to your penis" stuff (like she does in this manga), it would still be rape. Because consent wasn't given to begin with.

On a side note, NTR can be consensual, sometimes you just decide you want a new/old, bigger/smaller, dick and/or pussy because the old one isn't doing it for you, I didn't bring NTR up at all. The NTR aspect has nothing to do with this being rape. The rape is what has to with rape. If the girl just saw the ex again and got super turned on and chose to have sex with him again while lying to the bf, that obviously wouldn't be rape.
 
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Blackmail is somebody forcing a hard decision on someone else to gain leverage - essentially, choose the lesser devil or live with potentially worse consequences. In this case, blackmail forced the protagonist into accepting being used as a sexual toy and she showed signs of feeling abused and wanting it to stop.

Added the rape tag.
 
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We really need a non-consensual or coerced sex tag as even if a woman is blackmailed that is not the same as putting a knife to her throat. She's got the agency to say, "Ok, tell everyone, I will tell them you have a micro-penis" which happens IRL.

If I kiss a girl after a date without consent is that rape? How deep does this rabbit hole go? If I stare at her breasts am I "raping her with my eyes"?
Straw-manning is boring. You know that sexual harassment and rape are different, so don't bring that nonsense to me, it's disrespectful.

If you want to play slippery slope games, look at your example. Even if she has a knife to her throat she could choose to be stabbed instead of accepting being raped. "She's got the agency" to do that. So is that really rape?

You know it is. Just like you know that threats don't have to be violent to be threatening, just like you know that looking at someone and raping someone are different.

Consent is easy, it's way harder to intentionally act confused by it than it is to just respect it. If you like looking at rape porn (as long as it was made by consenting individuals obviously - drawn porn is totally safe in that regard), feel free, not your fault you have that kink, but just talk about it honestly, because convincing yourself that if you haven't got a knife to someones throat then anything is fair game is a dangerous thing to do. Looking at the stuff doesn't make you a rapist by any means, that's crazy. Convincing yourself that the act itself is fine is where it gets dicey really fast.

Final note, if you want to talk more about it, feel free to message me, totally happy to chat, I'd rather not reply here further as we are headed toward the off-topic no-no-zone.
 
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