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Modding SoaB

Discussion in 'Son of a bitch!' started by dspeed, Sep 11, 2018.

  1. dspeed

    dspeed Well-Known Member

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    So I'm interested in maybe modding the game but I struggle more on the content side than the actual programming stuff. Finding the right videos to match the story, clipping them, exporting them to the small webms, and writing the dialogue is time consuming and I'm not very good at it.

    I've seen it discussed before that perhaps people are looking at overwriting some of the video files that already exist with their own models and was wondering if there's interest in a collaboration?

    I don't have specific plans down to the last detail but the general idea would be to add some sort of "piety/moral" system based out of a new location such as a Church and then allow some darker content into the game. This could be based off the already existing perversion system or a new variable that we track. Perhaps a priest who turns you into a Satanist and with low piety you'd be more willing to fight, coerce/force, and generally be a Son of a Bitch. This could also gate off content such as romances due to the massive attitude/friendship hit that you'd take. Generally a more criminal experience that's currently missing from the game.

    Avenger has put some rough edges into this already with the Nina alt route but we could expand this into more "extreme" content. I'm not personally interested in gore/snuff and similar, but more BDSM Dom/Sub themes could be interesting and run alongside Avenger's updates. The mod would add new characters primarily as Avenger will have his own plans on already existing characters and it seems silly to have our own big arc that we'd have to rewrite due to a change made here or there. With that said, if someone could find the content then adding small pieces onto the already existing characters as a modded Dom/Sub route could work if it was branched off correctly.

    The project wouldn't demand an awful lot of time and don't worry about dropping in and out as your life changes. The modular nature of the game is such that if you provided information about models then someone else could continue your work. All I ask is that you do your best to fulfil any commitments made.

    If your particular fetish is in a different direction then you're free to work on that and I'll help put it into the game. I do ask however that you be careful with ageplay and beast content in order to let us post on F95 and keep me out of jail. Don't send me mad CP or donkey porn or something. Use a bit of common sense. I also personally think that as this game is a "Real Porn" game then hentai and other animated porn wouldn't make much sense in the Universe but if you can come up with a convincing story to fit it in then we can run with it.

    The work of the other person/people would consist firstly writing the story/dialogue and finding content that you'd then use a video editor to split into chunks so that each dialogue scene has its own video. The overall story structure and choices are really up to your creativity and I'm happy to let you express that in whichever way you want, with me doing the background work on getting it into the game.

    With the actual workflow, I'd want a link to a Mega with a zip file containing:

    The dialogue in a text file (with the video name that you want with it, if it's not clear)
    The exported webm videos (under 45 seconds preferably)
    Any location pictures you want to provide (900x500 jpg)

    From there I'd mod the QSP files and send you the test files before release. The plan is to build on top of the CE/CCE edition by @Xorgroth as I feel that's the best and most stable QSP. This would mean a bit of lag to version updating as we'd wait for Avenger to release a version, Xorgoth to fix/translate his own version then our work on top of that.

    There's no Patreon linked to this (and I don't think I really have enough free time to commit to deserving one) so financial compensation won't be available. But it could be fun and rewarding. Obviously if more than one person wants in then we could split the writing of the dialogue with the video sourcing, etc. Or you might just want to contribute a video and give a general idea of where you want the story to go and I'll do my best. Or perhaps the opposite, you have the dialogue ready and can identify a video but don't know how to do the exporting, etc? I'll fill in any gaps that you leave but the more people working, the more content we can put out and quicker.

    Let me know if there's interest in this by posting in this thread. We can do most of the communication here until we get the project running and initially through PMs.
     
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  2. Quacker

    Quacker Well-Known Member Donor Respected User Wiki Editor Jr. Uploader

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    I used to do that dspeed but stopped since at the time there was no interest... sample in link below

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  3. dspeed

    dspeed Well-Known Member

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    That's interesting - would you be interested in perhaps working on some new characters/stories?

    You seem to already have the file structure and video editing down. If you provided a text file that gave a bit of direction on how you want the scenes to transition/any internal dialogue then we could potentially start writing a mod for the .25 version. There's no rush or pressure to get anything done, we can take it as our time allows.

    It's probably worth me asking Avenger what he's using as exporter settings as his videos are in the hundreds of kilobytes rather than the megabytes that yours and my own tests were.
     
  4. Quacker

    Quacker Well-Known Member Donor Respected User Wiki Editor Jr. Uploader

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    Mine are only in megabytes. As they are higher quality webm, than avenger uses. Also were up to version 25 fuck. I haven't played since a year ago.
     
  5. mattius77

    mattius77 Well-Known Member

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    Rachel Steele ('Aunt Nina') is my favorite pornstar, and I was interested in switching out several of the lover path scenes. I was also curious about adding/writing new scenes: Why just a beejay during the morning shower? Why not wake her up for midnight romp? Why not a different choice of actions at night? ("We don't have to go to the bedroom, my dick and your pussy are already right here in the living room.") I wonder if she'd like to meet Shurik in the lover path? Stuff like that.

    Rachel doesn't really do anal (I only know of one or two scenes, and one of them it's just a dildo), but she has done a significant amount of BDSM/dom-sub/forced content. Not really my thing so much, but I know it's out there.

    The 'Rachel Steele' folder in my spank bank is 183 gigs, so...
     
  6. quinn12345

    quinn12345 New Member

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    It'd be kinda funny if there was a animated character, with interactions online and the scenes being either imagined or in a fictional online porn game
     
  7. dspeed

    dspeed Well-Known Member

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    I know I said I'd like to take the main character into more degeneracy but him playing porn games is over the top!
     
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  8. Metaxe

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    It's actually a good idea. I want to participate, but i'm afraid that my English is very bad. So my text will be with so many mistakes, so it will be useless.
     
  9. LMalice

    LMalice New Member

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    I would be game for this and help with writing and sourcing videos/images. But I would prefer to expand on certain current chars rather than on creating new ones. Is that something you might be looking at?

    Specifically I would like to develop the mom and sis stories further in sharing/slut direction to begin with. Or add more scenes and videos consistent with the existing routes. (This should not be as much of a problem with this game as others since your mom pretty much already has an NTR route - refuses to sleep with you after the Shurik threesome unless Shurik is also there etc.)

    I would be starting fresh as far as cutting out parts of a video and converting them to webm is concerned but I don't think that would be too difficult to learn. Just some googling required. I do have a fairly time consuming profession so I will probably not be the most active contributor but I have been meaning to get into creating some content (for fun not for profit) for a qsp game lately, and the main reason I cant do it on my own is because I know precisely nothing about programming and real life just doesn't give me enough spare time to start from scratch. Provided I am not the one expected to do the heavy lifting for your project I should be fine.
     
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  10. dspeed

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    That's the type of post I was looking for to be honest - something that compliments myself skill wise. The mod project I envisage is going to be easy going, no pressure or rushed deadlines or anything, just a few people all contributing in whatever way they want to with a "REAL LIFE COMES FIRST" motto. Nobody should feel that they HAVE to do something because then the fun goes away and this is supposed to be fun. Besides, I work in Software Development and the idea that I'd tell a client that I need to leave their piece of work because I have an incest porn game deadline coming is somewhat crazy. If you have to drop out or aren't enjoying it or find something else to do then that's totally fine - any content that's already in then you can just give me a heads up on where it might have gone and I could see if I could finish it myself. This isn't a job and I don't want it to be. Just a fun way to kill some time and produce some content.

    On the character's front - my main fear here is that we end up crossing the streams with Avenger. If we add content to a route, it requires us to rely on lots of his code and if he wants to change it, which he fully has the right to do to complete his vision as the author, then we'd have to make adjustments to our own stories. We could add *additional* content to a route he's already taken or create a whole new route though which presumably would lessen the chances of this.

    As ever, you're the author of your own arc and whichever direction you choose to go in in regards to tying it to existing stories then I'll respect and build around it. You'd basically have autonomy on your arc as feasible as that is - you submit the content that you want and others may well develop the content in other parts of the game that you'd have no need to contribute to (if you didn't want to, or you could help out if you wanted that too). And obviously you could do it in stages - we'd work on a first piece of the story and get that in then after you see how it plays out in the game, make a decision on if you want to continue it or not.

    Have a look into what videos you'd like and how you'd get them into WEBM format. I think I'll produce a small zip file as a proof of concept that will explain the best way to format submissions and you can have a look and see if you're interested
     
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  11. dspeed

    dspeed Well-Known Member

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    If you can give me a general direction through Google Translate then I can fit in the dialogue myself. Don't mind rewriting machine translated stuff!
     
  12. LMalice

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    Great. Sounds good to me. I hadn't considered the possibility that Avenger will add more content to story/char arcs that I thought were finished. I will try to adjust any content I want to add around that.

    I will PM you over the weekend with my plans regarding which videos I want to use and what I am planning to do to convert them to webms so you can guide me if there are better options and to avoid you having to work further on whatever I send in.

    Cheers.
     
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  13. Xorgroth

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    Yeah, go for it. I put in a license on the Translation project that says do whatever you want with it. So for the small size of webm files, they tend to be low bitrate. If you have something like K-Lite codec pack installed they have a tool MediaInfo that will show you everything that's used, encoding/codec wise. If you have a fairly modern pc you can go with VP9 codec, has pretty good compression compared to VP8 which is what Avenger is using in his releases. Plus better quality at lower rates but on my 10 year old pc it takes forever to encode anything.
    Can use something like OpenShot or ShotCut to edit files, both use ffmpeg so has a shit ton of encoding options and fairly easy to edit files, also both are free and open source.
     
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  14. sknf

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    the problem (for me) with the game is that after some versions (when julia and other chars added? not remember) some videos are very "rushed" for example it has videos with julia and others and skips (precious :p ) seconds and in one video is full clothed, in other is naked (and again , mom/sis need a refresh)
     
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  15. dspeed

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    Just double checked this one mate - VP9 doesn't play in the player version he's using. Had to rerender my test vids back to using WEBM VP8 codec for them to show.

    @LMalice
     
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  16. Xorgroth

    Xorgroth Active Member

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    Aww, that sucks. Well, VP8 it is then, slightly larger file size but better than gifs. I hadn't tried it out myself yet.
     
  17. LMalice

    LMalice New Member

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    I am not doing any encoding right now. I have chosen the vids. And for one of the scenes I have cut out the clips.

    This is what I have figured out from the interwebz and the suggestions here:

    1. I got my vid.
    2. Used OpenShot to cut out the clips I want to use from it.
    3. Then I export each clip one by one. - I need help here - What 'profile' should I use when exporting these clips? Is there a way to get the final file I want to use from OpenShot itself? Or do I necessarily need another programme?

    When I tried my test clip the file size after OpenShot export was really large, so I then encoded it using HandBrake into vp9 mkv format (which I read above I shouldnt - will use vp8 for next test) which brought the file size to 4 mb for a 30 sec clip.

    Am I doing it right?

    Is there any reason I need K-lite except the MediaInfo tool?
     
  18. Xorgroth

    Xorgroth Active Member

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    You might be able to get Mediainfo without K-Lite, it's just codec support for a crap ton of media types on a windows systems. It's mainly just to see what the encoding options that Avenger uses for his videos, that's pretty much it. It's not needed for OpenShot at all.
    Profile I don't think it matters much long as it's webm. I just went ahead with Web and Youtube HD.
     
  19. LMalice

    LMalice New Member

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    Cool. I'll try to write one entire sample scene with the clips and all and see if it works with what dspeed wants then.
     
  20. dspeed

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    Great. I've put together the start of the outline that we discussed and will hopefully be further along on it after the weekend. No rush for this stuff, at your own pace mate.
     
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