An update on my previous high praise following the latest update on porngameshub; the developer is a bottler, there is a sequence where a man drags Mila into a restaurant's men's room and in what could have been several exciting routes there is just one; they leave the mens room, which tells me a lot about where the story/developers is going to go; vanilla stereotypical cuck route, imho the mens room should have been several player choices; Paul (husband) Leaves the rest room, Paul Watches, Paul Takes part (role play) spit roasting Mila, Paul takes his turn after the stranger has fucked Mila, or He fucks her first. Instead what we have is a Bugatti Veyron with a lawn mower engine, when the engine should be from a space rocket. VERY VANILLA, and the choices could easily have determined, alpha, beta, cuck, love routes.
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I didn't want to make similar to ntr route scene, so that's why I made the scene in shop like this.
I am treating this game as a demo, because it's a first one for me, and the main purpose I am doing it is to learn a bit about renpy and storytelling in visual novels as a whole. So I am trying to make it less complicated, that it can be and kind of rush to the ending. But I don't want to ruin the fun, so it shouldn't be boring or get a feeling like it was "axed".
So I guess there won't be any new characters, but in the new game I want to make different routes - and "experienced female + unexperienced male" plot is on the list) There is no script for the new game though, so it's not set in stone.
I don't know what bottler means) Something about no choices?
As I wrote above, I don't want to make a really big variety of choices for this game. I think I'll make some more menus, but all of them will affect only the ending (there will be minor differences in story too, minor is the key word). It will be something like who will lead, and who will take more passive role in Mila and Paul relationship.
This will affect the final scene with Bob, Mila and Paul, I am still not sure how many optoins will be there, but at least two)
Also I think that Paul and Mila in the toilet scene not in the state to do real sex, they are still unsure about their wishes and dreams. And Paul is still insecure about the idea itself and he is not sure what he finds exciting. There is an ego part too. So I can't agree on that part)
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if u ask me I like smaller VN. we have too many neverending VN where a majority gets abandoned or they deviate too much into "ridiculom".
if u ask me I would tell DEVS out there to do:
- make a VN with a couple of choices and a game that will maximum take 1 year to finish.
- when done, if theres any interest, make additional content, more ending, side-stories, add another route etc.
- if people enjoy it tons, add a sequel, that again, maximum 1 year to finish.
so, back to his,
at this moment I think the DEV should just do what he had in mind.
we can give feedback on the content to far, but I think we all (me included) should try not to suggest to add content that require lots of work. suggestion should be minor stuff that takes as little time possible to add.
as the DEV said, its his first VN, let him do what he had in mind and we take it from there.
if u ask me I would tell DEVS out there to do:
- make a VN with a couple of choices and a game that will maximum take 1 year to finish.
- when done, if theres any interest, make additional content, more ending, side-stories, add another route etc.
- if people enjoy it tons, add a sequel, that again, maximum 1 year to finish.
so, back to his,
at this moment I think the DEV should just do what he had in mind.
we can give feedback on the content to far, but I think we all (me included) should try not to suggest to add content that require lots of work. suggestion should be minor stuff that takes as little time possible to add.
as the DEV said, its his first VN, let him do what he had in mind and we take it from there.
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What ? what is ? my comment which is directed to the DEV ?? If so well it's none of your buz dumby, doesn't include you so you can shoo away.
Bottler; bottles it; I.e gave us a nothing toilet scene, similar to a developer giving us a lame hand job instead of a hot sex session, or to put it another way getting into a Ferrari on a race track and doing 30mph. When there was EVERY opportunity for it to be one of many different scenario's/outcomes, leading to multiple paths. Don't want to make big choices tells me it'll be a vanilla story line with just the normal 2 endings; cuck, non cuck.
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Oh thanks for the explanation, got it
I like slow-paced stories and deep insight into the minds and motivations of characters. There’s nothing more annoying to me than a sudden change of character. For example, when the character is portrayed as shy and prude, but all you have to do to seduce her is offer her 20 bucks. That way allow you to see a sex scene fast - yes. But the crucial difference between porn and games (for me) that there is some context behind and some story. Which makes sex scenes hotter. You can't tell a story if you move to fast.
Using your words - it's not safe and nor smart to go 200 mph in a city. We need a proper road for it. But if you are riding a Ferrari knowing that there will be a road ahead, where you can go full speed, makes ride enjoyable. Anticipation can be enjoyable.
NTR route was too fast in my opinion - I rushed it, because I wanted to make it a demo. It's fast, but dull. There is no Paul there, no feeling, no decisions. And Mila is more like a mindless sexdoll because of it.
At the end of the netorase route there will be no "cuck/not cuck" choice. Because we are already on the netorase route. Vanilla route can be selected at the beginning and it is already finished.
At the end there will be a choice for Paul dom/sub, and also, I think about the options dom/sub, dom/dom, sub/dom and maybe about selecting the course of relationship between Bob/Mila/Paul overall. But I’m not sure what will be better to make fewer but better quality scenes or give the Player more choices.
Anyway, thanks again for your comment
I don't know if you've seen or played the game "good girl gone bad" I think the progression of that game is interesting and it would be good to see something similarOh thanks for the explanation, got it
I like slow-paced stories and deep insight into the minds and motivations of characters. There’s nothing more annoying to me than a sudden change of character. For example, when the character is portrayed as shy and prude, but all you have to do to seduce her is offer her 20 bucks. That way allow you to see a sex scene fast - yes. But the crucial difference between porn and games (for me) that there is some context behind and some story. Which makes sex scenes hotter. You can't tell a story if you move to fast.
Using your words - it's not safe and nor smart to go 200 mph in a city. We need a proper road for it. But if you are riding a Ferrari knowing that there will be a road ahead, where you can go full speed, makes ride enjoyable. Anticipation can be enjoyable.
NTR route was too fast in my opinion - I rushed it, because I wanted to make it a demo. It's fast, but dull. There is no Paul there, no feeling, no decisions. And Mila is more like a mindless sexdoll because of it.
At the end of the netorase route there will be no "cuck/not cuck" choice. Because we are already on the netorase route. Vanilla route can be selected at the beginning and it is already finished.
At the end there will be a choice for Paul dom/sub, and also, I think about the options dom/sub, dom/dom, sub/dom and maybe about selecting the course of relationship between Bob/Mila/Paul overall. But I’m not sure what will be better to make fewer but better quality scenes or give the Player more choices.
Anyway, thanks again for your comment
I absolutely love this game, yeah. And the Red string too - Eva Kiss is a true artisan.
There are a couple of things I plan on doing differently - Eva’s kiss stories have too many characters and storylines. Sometimes they intertwine in strange ways and it is hard to believe that the protagonist is the same in both. Basically, the storylines are knitted by Eva with great care, but sometimes I lose the sense that the characters act like a real person would. And the second thing is, because of the number of characters and the storylines, the story looks ragged, inconsistent. These are two things I want to do in my own way.
This means that the Player will have less choice and the story will only bend in the direction the Player has chosen.
If you’re interested, here are my favorite games:
Dilmur, girl detective of the steam city, the curse of pleasure, star knight aura, on edge, satisfy him, witch trainer (generally all Acabur games), High School of Succubus, The Wind’s Disciple, Raven’s Quest.
Some things I like in them, some things are driving me nuts, so you can expect that I may steal/reimagine some ideas or mood or scenes from these games.
And yet she's heavily engaged into flashing etc in an overly long phone conversation with a total stranger at the very start (because she's bored with her sex life) ??. And there's nothing wrong with a surprise lewd event early on to wet the lions so to speak, ever played deliverance ?; the wife entertains a total stranger down a dark alley whilst with her husband.Oh thanks for the explanation, got it
I like slow-paced stories and deep insight into the minds and motivations of characters. There’s nothing more annoying to me than a sudden change of character. For example, when the character is portrayed as shy and prude, but all you have to do to seduce her is offer her 20 bucks. That way allow you to see a sex scene fast - yes. But the crucial difference between porn and games (for me) that there is some context behind and some story. Which makes sex scenes hotter. You can't tell a story if you move to fast.
Using your words - it's not safe and nor smart to go 200 mph in a city. We need a proper road for it. But if you are riding a Ferrari knowing that there will be a road ahead, where you can go full speed, makes ride enjoyable. Anticipation can be enjoyable.
NTR route was too fast in my opinion - I rushed it, because I wanted to make it a demo. It's fast, but dull. There is no Paul there, no feeling, no decisions. And Mila is more like a mindless sexdoll because of it.
At the end of the netorase route there will be no "cuck/not cuck" choice. Because we are already on the netorase route. Vanilla route can be selected at the beginning and it is already finished.
At the end there will be a choice for Paul dom/sub, and also, I think about the options dom/sub, dom/dom, sub/dom and maybe about selecting the course of relationship between Bob/Mila/Paul overall. But I’m not sure what will be better to make fewer but better quality scenes or give the Player more choices.
Anyway, thanks again for your comment
seems promissing but the dicks are a bit to big for a small girl like her. maybe focus on her cheating and becoming a gangbang addicts or something
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Suggestion. I think the NTR route could be adapted into the NTRS route. Example, her continuing text conversation after the scene where they send pictures. Instead of her losing interest, paul's excitement leads to her interest increasing. She asks him if she should continue texting and he approves.
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.This plot was in my first draft, but I didn't like the flow of the story with Dick. It would be mean to Paul (because of the Dick's personality) and I don't like those types of NTR. So that's why I made a separate route with Bob. Thanks for you comment
Did you use your old save? Try starting the new game, it should help. If it doesn't - then would you mind to tell me more about where and when it happen?
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