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here is this moment I can't do with Jennifer
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doesn't want the crack to show:rolleyes::p
That one I was just screwing around, actually meant to delete the pic before I uploaded....Lol. So no way to get it in game, was just playing with shorts morphs.
 
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I have the incest patch on this update. I dont know if this is what caused it, or it's just the game itself.
But now i can't move forward since it's dialogue between MC and Youngest daughter/roommate and there are no other options to circumvent the error.
Sorry game was designed for either patched version or not. If you start the patched version on a later update there will likely be ALL kinds of errors eventually. I didn't forsee people swapping versions later in game, I'll try to think of a way to fix it, but for now if you switch I would greatly recommend a restart.
 

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Just played this for the first time and really liked the story and the characters. The models and scenes are good but @Nefastus you need to do some work on your renders.

I understand that hardware limitations are a bummer but Daz 4.11 is much quicker to get a better render so check it out. Use a convergence setting (rather a number of iterations or time limit) to get better quality.

Check each render for poke through as its quite off putting some times. Also check your placing of models so that they don't intersect with the enviroment.

Work on your lighting as well. Lighting is a bitch and I am still battling with it after a year but I got some very good advice in this thread when I started: . Three point lighting should be your religion until you get the hang of it. It will improve your renders massivly. Fills can be replaced by HDRIs and emissive planes/ghost lights to good effect sometimes but all three need to be there to some extent. Lighting is the best way to improve a render after you have selected your models.

I say all this with the greatest of respect. This is already a good game and with better art it could be truly great game.
Constantly working on the render skills, and hopefully it shows as the renders marginally improve version to version. Version .01 was a touch embarrassing. And yes, lighting is a complete bitch, I try to spend a few hours each week just researching lighting tips/theory, but the rabbit hole for lighting is MASSIVE so it will probably take quite a bit before I am truly proud of my skills with daz. Thanks for linking that post, looks like some interesting reads in there and I am always looking for ways to improve and actual constructive criticism is the best. Hopefully at some point I can find the time to work on the updates AND redo some of the earlier scenes, for now all my free time is tied up in updating.
 

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Gods SAKE -- Change LOG!!!!!! holy shit how hard is it to add one...???
Umm, it's a visual novel in its early stages, version .03, so changelog would be...story progresses?

Not trying to sound like a smart ass, I truly don't know what people expect from a change log in a visual novel. Each update the story continues for each character. I will certainly add one when an update only focuses on one or two characters in case people want to skip it, but the entire point of this VN is that your choices are interwoven into the narrative rather than picking this puts you on this path which shows these specific scenes but not these ones. Like how those people who picked to hate the wife early can still choose the option to hate fuck her at the end of version .02, which will in turn influence scenes in the future. The goal is for your choices to influence the scenes in minor and major ways, not set you on a predetermined path from scene x to scene y.
 

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Umm, it's a visual novel in its early stages, version .03, so changelog would be...story progresses?

Not trying to sound like a smart ass, I truly don't know what people expect from a change log in a visual novel. Each update the story continues for each character. I will certainly add one when an update only focuses on one or two characters in case people want to skip it, but the entire point of this VN is that your choices are interwoven into the narrative rather than picking this puts you on this path which shows these specific scenes but not these ones. Like how those people who picked to hate the wife early can still choose the option to hate fuck her at the end of version .02, which will in turn influence scenes in the future. The goal is for your choices to influence the scenes in minor and major ways, not set you on a predetermined path from scene x to scene y.
just put "more roleplaying with wifey..new scenes with assistant from work..scenes at the beach with the girls...and finally..its good to be a perv..HUZZAH" theres a quality changelog :D also i guess let them know you are continually improving your renders and storytelling..some of us notice that stuff :p
 
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@Nefastus it actually makes sense to have a changelog...some people actually will not play a game that has none..and some of those..drop bucks on patreon etc...so..something..anything..to quell the hordes...ya wanna do everything you can to attract people that want to support you..and this is a game worth supporting..its really good.
 
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just put "more roleplaying with wifey..new scenes with assistant from work..scenes at the beach with the girls...and finally..its good to be a perv..HUZZAH" theres a quality changelog :D also i guess let them know you are continually improving your renders and storytelling..some of us notice that stuff :p
So basically a vague scene list just recapping content added, spoiler free of course...I can do that from here on out. I guess since I personally avoid changelogs for fear of spoilers I have no basis on which to write one lol, I'll whip one up and send it in for adding.

Glad to hear at least a couple of people are noticing the effort I put in researching on the renders and story telling, I really wish I had the time to redo the beginning, it's embarassing how bad some of them are. I may try to redo a scene here and there but it's tough because I spend 90% of my free time working on update, I think you guys who powered through that early mess would rather an extra scene of content vs a better looking previous scene lol.
 
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@Nefastus lesse..start with : XXX new renders...XXXXX new words of text...continuation of X storyline..continuation of X storyline..continuation of X storyline..improved X..updated X..fixed X...voila..no spoilers..and lets people know.they can expect a fair amount of stuff in the update..thats a standard changelog that most are used to and happy with.
EDIT:also..if you add new characters a simple "new characters to meet/added..and if you add new kinks..a simple "x new kinks added(lesbian circle-squirt would be a fine addition)
 
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So basically a vague scene list just recapping content added, spoiler free of course...I can do that from here on out. I guess since I personally avoid changelogs for fear of spoilers I have no basis on which to write one lol, I'll whip one up and send it in for adding.

Glad to hear at least a couple of people are noticing the effort I put in researching on the renders and story telling, I really wish I had the time to redo the beginning, it's embarassing how bad some of them are. I may try to redo a scene here and there but it's tough because I spend 90% of my free time working on update, I think you guys who powered through that early mess would rather an extra scene of content vs a better looking previous scene lol.
First, i second what @ThunderRob is saying up here... second, i strongly recommend to fleshen up more the game before u wanna "re" render anything... after all, u are learning and if u do it right now its fairly likely that u wont like them again later on the road when u somehow "master" the renders u wanna make. Keep up the good work mate, there are more people "watching" here, but most of us are strong lurkers mostly. Cheers!
 

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Gods SAKE -- Change LOG!!!!!! holy shit how hard is it to add one...???
@Nefastus lesse..start with : XXX new renders...XXXXX new words of text...continuation of X storyline..continuation of X storyline..continuation of X storyline..improved X..updated X..fixed X...voila..no spoilers..and lets people know.they can expect a fair amount of stuff in the update..thats a standard changelog that most are used to and happy with.
EDIT:also..if you add new characters a simple "new characters to meet/added..and if you add new kinks..a simple "x new kinks added(lesbian circle-squirt would be a fine addition)
This is what I just submitted to have added to OP.

Changelog V.03
340ish new renders...some good some bad and some that weren't supposed to be included
Didn't keep track of how many words it was, but my hands were sore after coding it lmao
Continuation of most girls storylines, some much more...frisky.. than others

Scene based on choice at end of version .02
- Scene with wife(3 variations based on choces roleplay, loving or hatefuck)
-Scene with escort(possible fun in driveway)
-Jerk off scene....just fades to black, I didn't want to make a bunch of renders of MC jerkin it
Wake up chat with wife and Christine
Lengthy beach trip with wife, both girls and both friends
Meeting with a client and assistant
Possible continuation with assistant after meeting, party a bit.


Finally as always, focusing on improving renders and story. Be gentle lol, but criticism/tips of them welcome.

If I continue changelogs like this from here on out it would be acceptable?
 

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thats fine and dandy to me..i think that will go over well especially since you added some of your personality to it.
 
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First, i second what @ThunderRob is saying up here... second, i strongly recommend to fleshen up more the game before u wanna "re" render anything... after all, u are learning and if u do it right now its fairly likely that u wont like them again later on the road when u somehow "master" the renders u wanna make. Keep up the good work mate, there are more people "watching" here, but most of us are strong lurkers mostly. Cheers!
That's my plan, re doing anything no matter how embarrassing would be months down the road more than likely. I can't even consider it until I upgrade hardware a bit. Currently it takes like 400+ hours just to render the stuff I want in the updates because of the hardware. (That's why some scenes look more 'off' than others still, I have to batch render sometimes due to time constraints and I always end up screwing something up lmao)

Also as a strong lurker myself, glad you all are around lol. We all should unionize sometime and take over the world. Could you imagine our leader? A high functioning mute would be just about perfect to represent our silent majority of lurkers.
 

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your renders are better than average for the most part..with just a couple WTFiness bits..lol..i say push ahead with the story and content and improve as you go and let the original stuff stand as a tribute to your improving so you can look back and see how well you have come along..its always nice to be able to see where you began and where you are and feel the pride of how far you came..once you've finished this tale..if you feel the need you can redo it all as a special edition or sumsuch..lol...for now..shave em..no more sharpie bushes!!! HAHAHAAAA
and keep Christine's titties as wee nubs..they are so adorable :p more games need nubs :p
 
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thats fine and dandy to me..i think that will go over well especially since you added some of your personality to it.
Good to know!

For the record, I really do appreciate all you guys who take some time to help a new developer who is still learning the ins and outs of all this stuff.
 
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your renders are better than average for the most part..with just a couple WTFiness bits..lol..i say push ahead with the story and content and improve as you go and let the original stuff stand as a tribute to your improving so you can look back and see how well you have come along..its always nice to be able to see where you began and where you are and feel the pride of how far you came..once you've finished this tale..if you feel the need you can redo it all as a special edition or sumsuch..lol...for now..shave em..no more sharpie bushes!!! HAHAHAAAA
and keep Christine's titties as wee nubs..they are so adorable :p more games need nubs :p
Lol, fair enough. They will either be shaved or I will find better hair from here on out. More than likely they will be shaved for an update or two while I test some various hair options(that hair really does look awful). I prefer some nubs myself so no worries, she won't be getting any implants or anything.
 
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