random.guy

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One game hardly makes normal and transitioning from one set of content to a set of slave content is very different from blocking content with no replacement. And f you learnt to read I repeatedly said I am not completing the story line as most wont which is why it makes the whole thing redundant waste of time. You keep talking about realism but then happy to ignore totally ridiculous that included in game. Androids and elves fine and a totally trusting and gullible overly sheltered woman of blind faith takes ridiculous grind to get nowhere but tell her your celibate and anti porn but if dont cum she strips off to give you fap material but MC is to dumb to talk her into bed FFS that is as ridiculous as it gets. She is as dumb as a post, when asked directly about her rules of faith she has no answers just blind faith with no knowledge fed to her by parents same for her Elf freedom efforts when questioned by Lin she had no answers and denied anything that questioned church even from an eye witness, she has massive blinkers and has demonstrated no intelligence and has worked her whole life in a coffee shop. Aloofness, arrogance and sense of superiority do not make intelligence and are easily manipulated, the twins would be much harder to crack in realty because of their innate distrust created by father issues.
Anyway this debate pointless so will agree to disagree with one eyed fan boy. Sorry like game but much better storylines with better games will be ones that keep getting my patreon money. He is far from winning me over with character inconsistencies and levels of grinding needed and bringing backtracking into an already grindfest is not going to win over new fans.
I might not have learnt to read, according to you, but you surely haven't learnt to write. At least not with proper punctuation.

On the points you highlight, you asked what other games did that and I provided an example. Your argument was that no one did and you've been proven wrong. Another example could be Peasant's Quest in which a character doesn't provide repeatable sex scenes anymore after she gives birth and asks you to wait for the next update.
By the way, if you learnt to read yourself, you'd realize I didn't say in Corruption you got new content as soon as you made the character your slave. That hasn't been true for multiple updates, during which if you enslaved your mother you'd lose the ability to see previous scenes with her and wouldn't get anything in return. Only recently, after months, new content for her as a slave has been implemented.
So the argument was simply: you're complaining about an inexistent problem because the issue you have will have lasted, when 0.6 comes out, for just the timeframe of development of the very next update. If you want to look at cliffhangers and cockblocking, you've been pointing out in the wrong direction. This game doesn't do that, it's just false.
You keep essentially demanding this game to never let anything suspended, which is not possible since the game is not finished and still in development. The story will progress with every update and that's unavoidable with the development model that's been adopted.

Regarding realism, you are committing a double fallacy. Pointing at the existence of elves in the game doesn't mean the game can be unrealistic on other levels. Of course elves and androids are not realistic in the strict sense of the word, but for a game in a fictitious setting with fantasy or sci-fi elements realism has another meaning, which is that of internal coherence of the world building. If the characters in that world act as people in ours, with similar behaviours, it is unrealistic if they suddenly start to behave like characters in a 80s B grade porn flick.
And that's where your second fallacy comes into place, you said there is no realism in the game and then argue that since you think that Autumn is dumb she should let the MC bone her as otherwise it doesn't make sense. So you must make up your mind: either the game is realistic or it's not. If you think it's not, you can't use realism as the basis to argue that a dumb character must fall for manipulation; in that case you might instead argue that since nothing makes sense then you might as well go the extra mile and let the player easily fuck Autumn because it's porn with no internal rational structure. But that's not what you're doing. You're dismissing realism claims by pointing out at setting elements that don't fit reality, but then you're going back to reality to state that in the real world the twins would not fall for you and Autumn instead should. You're the one inconsistent in the reasoning, not the game.
To top it all, you are also misunderstanding Autumn, since at no point she is depicted as dumb. She's naive and deceivable, but she isn't dumb. You're saying she's dumb only on the basis of some prejudice regarding religious people. She doesn't have answers when faced with the harsh reality that hers is just idealism, but that doesn't mean being dumb, she's just inexperienced and idealistic. She talks about how things should be and doesn't know how they actually are in all their aspects or why it's so hard to have them change, but she's no bimbo. She can use reasoning, she just has a different set of values that inspire her in her views and choices.

On the issue of grinding, I don't know which game you've been playing, because there is no grinding needed. You literally just talk to people half of the time and perform sexual acts the other half. You can see all non optional scenes without a care for anything but visiting repeatedly the character.

Besides, complaining about grinding in a Ren'Py game is ludicrous due to the fact that the source code can be extracted and altered to fit your tastes, just as you can simply enable the console to skip whatever "grinding" you might feel to exist.
Of course it'd still be a valid critique to the game itself if it was the case that grinding is demanded, but you are sorely mistaken on that front. Unless for you grinding means playing a Visual Novel, that is reading.
 

Runey

Harem Hotel
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May 17, 2018
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I might not have learnt to read, according to you, but you surely haven't learnt to write. At least not with proper punctuation.

On the points you highlight, you asked what other games did that and I provided an example. Your argument was that no one did and you've been proven wrong. Another example could be Peasant's Quest in which a character doesn't provide repeatable sex scenes anymore after she gives birth and asks you to wait for the next update.
By the way, if you learnt to read yourself, you'd realize I didn't say in Corruption you got new content as soon as you made the character your slave. That hasn't been true for multiple updates, during which if you enslaved your mother you'd lose the ability to see previous scenes with her and wouldn't get anything in return. Only recently, after months, new content for her as a slave has been implemented.
So the argument was simply: you're complaining about an inexistent problem because the issue you have will have lasted, when 0.6 comes out, for just the timeframe of development of the very next update. If you want to look at cliffhangers and cockblocking, you've been pointing out in the wrong direction. This game doesn't do that, it's just false.
You keep essentially demanding this game to never let anything suspended, which is not possible since the game is not finished and still in development. The story will progress with every update and that's unavoidable with the development model that's been adopted.

Regarding realism, you are committing a double fallacy. Pointing at the existence of elves in the game doesn't mean the game can be unrealistic on other levels. Of course elves and androids are not realistic in the strict sense of the word, but for a game in a fictitious setting with fantasy or sci-fi elements realism has another meaning, which is that of internal coherence of the world building. If the characters in that world act as people in ours, with similar behaviours, it is unrealistic if they suddenly start to behave like characters in a 80s B grade porn flick.
And that's where your second fallacy comes into place, you said there is no realism in the game and then argue that since you think that Autumn is dumb she should let the MC bone her as otherwise it doesn't make sense. So you must make up your mind: either the game is realistic or it's not. If you think it's not, you can't use realism as the basis to argue that a dumb character must fall for manipulation; in that case you might instead argue that since nothing makes sense then you might as well go the extra mile and let the player easily fuck Autumn because it's porn with no internal rational structure. But that's not what you're doing. You're dismissing realism claims by pointing out at setting elements that don't fit reality, but then you're going back to reality to state that in the real world the twins would not fall for you and Autumn instead should. You're the one inconsistent in the reasoning, not the game.
To top it all, you are also misunderstanding Autumn, since at no point she is depicted as dumb. She's naive and deceivable, but she isn't dumb. You're saying she's dumb only on the basis of some prejudice regarding religious people. She doesn't have answers when faced with the harsh reality that hers is just idealism, but that doesn't mean being dumb, she's just inexperienced and idealistic. She talks about how things should be and doesn't know how they actually are in all their aspects or why it's so hard to have them change, but she's no bimbo. She can use reasoning, she just has a different set of values that inspire her in her views and choices.

On the issue of grinding, I don't know which game you've been playing, because there is no grinding needed. You literally just talk to people half of the time and perform sexual acts the other half. You can see all non optional scenes without a care for anything but visiting repeatedly the character.

Besides, complaining about grinding in a Ren'Py game is ludicrous due to the fact that the source code can be extracted and altered to fit your tastes, just as you can simply enable the console to skip whatever "grinding" you might feel to exist.
Of course it'd still be a valid critique to the game itself if it was the case that grinding is demanded, but you are sorely mistaken on that front. Unless for you grinding means playing a Visual Novel, that is reading.
I wish I could like your post more than once.
 

Runey

Harem Hotel
Game Developer
May 17, 2018
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Is there any notable difference between 0.6 Pre-Release and the Complete Release in a few days time?
The Pre Release as about 62 scenes, up from the 49 on Beta 3 (and more bug fixes and polishes).

The official public release, in about 9 days, will have less bugs, and a completely overhauled computer system. It will be an interactive computer now. You'll be able to change your wallpapers. Some default ones and some you can buy. You'll also be able to turn those pinups you take into wallpapers as well.
You must be registered to see images

You'll be able to preview, and rotate outfits on a model character:
You must be registered to see images

You'll also be able to preview the Elves you can buy. (Website probably going to be named Elf-Bay)

There will also be a website for toys and modules.
 
Feb 3, 2018
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The Pre Release as about 62 scenes, up from the 49 on Beta 3 (and more bug fixes and polishes).

The official public release, in about 9 days, will have less bugs, and a completely overhauled computer system. It will be an interactive computer now. You'll be able to change your wallpapers. Some default ones and some you can buy. You'll also be able to turn those pinups you take into wallpapers as well.
You must be registered to see images

You'll be able to preview, and rotate outfits on a model character:
You must be registered to see images

You'll also be able to preview the Elves you can buy. (Website probably going to be named Elf-Bay)

There will also be a website for toys and modules.
Good God, this game is only getting better. I'm actually tempted to start a new game just to see old content with this update. Probably will have to wait until after Finals, but still.
 
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Runey

Harem Hotel
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May 17, 2018
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Good God, this game is only getting better. I'm actually tempted to start a new game just to see old content with this update. Probably will have to wait until after Finals, but still.
Strip poker will also be introduced in the bar. Full Texas Hold'em. (Though it may be in v0.7, not v0.6). Completely optional, and you'll be able to do it whenever you'd like providing you unlock the bar. This mini game isn't something I'm personally working on, neither is the new computer.
 
Nov 26, 2018
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The Pre Release as about 62 scenes, up from the 49 on Beta 3 (and more bug fixes and polishes).

The official public release, in about 9 days, will have less bugs, and a completely overhauled computer system. It will be an interactive computer now. You'll be able to change your wallpapers. Some default ones and some you can buy. You'll also be able to turn those pinups you take into wallpapers as well.
You must be registered to see images

You'll be able to preview, and rotate outfits on a model character:
You must be registered to see images

You'll also be able to preview the Elves you can buy. (Website probably going to be named Elf-Bay)

There will also be a website for toys and modules.

why are the spoilers empty?
 

Runey

Harem Hotel
Game Developer
May 17, 2018
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Giochipremium (the rats who sold my game for profit and claimed they owned it (if you don't know the full story of giochi, that's fine. It isn't too important)) have told Patreon Ashley is under aged.
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The below is my response:

"
Hello, thank you very much for contacting me about this issue.

Ashley is indeed a petite looking girl, but she is not under aged, nor is she meant to look under aged. In fact, I'm disappointed some would view her that way as that is not my intention at all. Ashley is 19 years old, attends a college and lives independently. This is made abundantly clear in the story.

There are other characters of the same age. Is the issue here that her breasts are too small? Breasts naturally take many shapes and sizes, and this is what I wanted to represent in the game.

Again, this character isn't meant to look or act under aged in any way, shape, or form. The context and story surrounding the character is very clear about this as well.

I'm currently in the early stages of a legal dispute with an Italian company who is attempting to resell my work. In an early email they had threatened to falsify reports against the project and engaged in other forms of harassment in an attempt to intimidate me into withdrawing the complaint. I'm currently proceeding with litgation against them, and I'm guessing this is where this report has originated from. I had contacted you previously on Friday, February the 8th, 2019 informing you of the situation.

I am completely willing to remove Ashley from the game if you really insist, but as it stands, I honestly believe everything about Ashley is perfectly within Patreon's Terms of Service. And I am in no way attempting to subvert your policies.

Kind regards.
"
 

Hones

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Aug 10, 2018
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I really hope this gets sorted out without you having to remove any content from the game but really "looks to young and falls under the impression of..." can that rule be anymore vague. Rules like that mean that creators are just left relying on the whims of whoever is reviewing their content.
 

mythedman

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Jun 16, 2017
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"impression of being a minor."
People are likely carded and their age misjudged for that reason, it is an impression but impression does not equal reality.

Depending on how a person grows they can retain a younger physique their whole life, yet still age the same as the rest. Pornhub has petite women. Petite women can be adults too. :poop:
 

recreation

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Jun 10, 2018
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Giochipremium (the rats who sold my game for profit and claimed they owned it (if you don't know the full story of giochi, that's fine. It isn't too important)) have told Patreon Ashley is under aged.
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The below is my response:

"
Hello, thank you very much for contacting me about this issue.

Ashley is indeed a petite looking girl, but she is not under aged, nor is she meant to look under aged. In fact, I'm disappointed some would view her that way as that is not my intention at all. Ashley is 19 years old, attends a college and lives independently. This is made abundantly clear in the story.

There are other characters of the same age. Is the issue here that her breasts are too small? Breasts naturally take many shapes and sizes, and this is what I wanted to represent in the game.

Again, this character isn't meant to look or act under aged in any way, shape, or form. The context and story surrounding the character is very clear about this as well.

I'm currently in the early stages of a legal dispute with an Italian company who is attempting to resell my work. In an early email they had threatened to falsify reports against the project and engaged in other forms of harassment in an attempt to intimidate me into withdrawing the complaint. I'm currently proceeding with litgation against them, and I'm guessing this is where this report has originated from. I had contacted you previously on Friday, February the 8th, 2019 informing you of the situation.

I am completely willing to remove Ashley from the game if you really insist, but as it stands, I honestly believe everything about Ashley is perfectly within Patreon's Terms of Service. And I am in no way attempting to subvert your policies.

Kind regards.
"
what a fucking retard this giochi is... where is my ddos code again...
 

markus T

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Jun 11, 2017
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Giochipremium (the rats who sold my game for profit and claimed they owned it (if you don't know the full story of giochi, that's fine. It isn't too important)) have told Patreon Ashley is under aged.
You must be registered to see images


The below is my response:

"
Hello, thank you very much for contacting me about this issue.

Ashley is indeed a petite looking girl, but she is not under aged, nor is she meant to look under aged. In fact, I'm disappointed some would view her that way as that is not my intention at all. Ashley is 19 years old, attends a college and lives independently. This is made abundantly clear in the story.

There are other characters of the same age. Is the issue here that her breasts are too small? Breasts naturally take many shapes and sizes, and this is what I wanted to represent in the game.

Again, this character isn't meant to look or act under aged in any way, shape, or form. The context and story surrounding the character is very clear about this as well.

I'm currently in the early stages of a legal dispute with an Italian company who is attempting to resell my work. In an early email they had threatened to falsify reports against the project and engaged in other forms of harassment in an attempt to intimidate me into withdrawing the complaint. I'm currently proceeding with litgation against them, and I'm guessing this is where this report has originated from. I had contacted you previously on Friday, February the 8th, 2019 informing you of the situation.

I am completely willing to remove Ashley from the game if you really insist, but as it stands, I honestly believe everything about Ashley is perfectly within Patreon's Terms of Service. And I am in no way attempting to subvert your policies.

Kind regards.
"
People disgust me:mad:. Just because someone LOOKS under age...it does not mean that they are. Hell I work with a girl who is a whopping 4 ft 8 who just turned 18.....I was astonished when I found out she was 18 and not 12-13, I really though she was 12 at first lol. Its funny how many times my boss gets vists for it because customers file complaints accusing him of child labor.

Give ashley a drivers liscense to hold up close thats says shes 18 ....or a shirt LOL
 
Feb 3, 2018
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Absolutely disgusting. Ashley may look a bit young, but even I can tell by looking at her that’s she’s over 18. Keep us as posted as you are allowed to. It’d be a shame to see Ashley go because Patreon was too lazy to actually care to enter a dialouge with you.

Best of luck man.
 

Runey

Harem Hotel
Game Developer
May 17, 2018
1,301
3,468
Absolutely disgusting. Ashley may look a bit young, but even I can tell by looking at her that’s she’s over 18. Keep us as posted as you are allowed to. It’d be a shame to see Ashley go because Patreon was too lazy to actually care to enter a dialouge with you.

Best of luck man.
Thank you. I believe they are sort of entering a dialog with me. They mentioned if I had any questions, they would help me. I did take the public download down until this gets sorted.
 

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