[Mod] [DMD] Patreon kills DmD

[grmp]

Patreon killed DmD and would have already deleted it if Mrdots would not have agreed to their ludicrous demands
"Initially, their team had planned to have my page completely removed from Patreon unless that I appealed their decision and gave a reason why I shouldn’t be banned and no longer able to create games on here. After three days, I finally received a response, where they were happy to keep my page open, but it has been at a huge cost - me agreeing to remove anything related to DMD from my page."

Patreon also goes full Thought Police
"they want to make sure that there is no incest involved. I in turn have agreed to forward my new project idea, storylines and walkthroughs to them before they are published on my page."

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[carlos81]

Any impediments expected for the upcoming release, which was planned for tommorow Jan. 27th?

 

[abcde]

This is what the creator said

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v.17 preview Daughter is sad because the P guys don’t like doughnuts.


Hey guys!

I’m creating this post so that everyone can join in the discussion. I know I have many fans from other sites like f95zone, and I know there are people who can’t financially support me so I’d like to read everyone’s thoughts here.

As I said in my Patreon post, we will try to continue developing DMD on dmdgame.com. v.17 is going to be released in Mid-February to those who pledged during January. I’ve got your email addresses so I can add them to an email autoresponder.

Patreon has practically forced us to create another game in order to keep the page alive, so we can’t offer DMD there anymore. It was either that or seeing our account getting banned.

It’s not what we wanted, so we’ll see how that goes. But our main project will always be DMD.

The project won’t be canceled but we will work at a slower rate than when we’re on Patreon, mainly because we have to look for another payment alternative and we’ll also have to focus on the new game as well. But don’t worry, DMD will be finished no matter what!

We are looking at some potential solutions but for now, we are not entirely convinced. As much as I hate Patreon, they are the best and we might have to wait for a long while until we see some serious competition.

I’ll be reuploading Dating My Daughter: Chapter 1 and Ch.2 v.16 (Without censorship!) to site like Payhip, Gumroad, etc. tomorrow. I don’t know how long they will last, but at least those who didn’t like the censored game will be able to get the original one and also help us financially.

We knew this day would come eventually, and to be honest, I’m kinda glad that DMD is out of there. Patreon was killing my creativity, with all the censorship, the patches, and I’m not sure if my patience would have lasted much longer.

DMD will become Dating My Daughter again, and I’m really excited about that

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P doesn’t like puppies either
Thank you for being a loyal fan of the game.


I really appreciate that and those who experienced the first censorship wave, you know that I would never choose a big company over my fans.


Talk to you soon!

Mrdots.

P.S. I’ve received HUNDREDS of messages on Patreon, here and on Discord. I’ll be responding to each one of them but It’s going to take me a while, so please be patient

 

[helion02]

Patreon is going full on moral police, fuck patreon. The worst part is, they're targeting smaller patreons, but the larger ones that make them money, those greedy sons of bitches aren't touching. Fuck patreon, closet fascists, all of them.

 

[baneini]

I assume people can't just keep a pretend patreon account with no actual game updates on it while providing updates elsewhere.
Think they banned 8ch owners cat pictures patreon on the basis that it supports ********** or something.

 

[Oiz]

Well, it's not a surprise. It has been known for quite a while that patreon is on the warpath against incest and non-consentual sex

And honestly. Mr.Dots should've seen it coming from miles away already.

 

[Onysko]

Honestly, it was clear this was going to happen to ALL adult-content creators on Patreon, who were engaging in taboo genres. As soon as paypal was brought in as a payment method, so was scrutiny and increased enforcement. They are doing this because of paypal above all else.

 

[abcde]

Patreon pretty much wants to force the creators who have incest genres in their games to delete their game first big brother and now dating my daughter

 

[EverythingButTheGirl]

@Onysko can you tldr it what paypal has to do with it?

 

[MangoTree]

Think they banned 8ch owners cat pictures patreon on the basis that it supports ********** or something.

Wtf people were using patreon to support real cp? or do you mean cartoon loli stuff? did patreon release an official statement about it somewhere?

 

[idocatrudiaris]

My advice to cheat the system patreon! Keep the page cleaned from any reference to incest and patreons will only support the developer for announcements about the new update, vote, generall discussion without reference to the game or this title. And when the update is made the link is sent to the mail or to a website where the patreons will have a user and a password. This is how the patreon payment facility is retained but will no longer have control over the content and will not be able to forbid anything...

 

[taopaipai]

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[Bahamut Zero]

My advice to cheat the system patreon! Keep the page cleaned from any reference to incest and patreons will only support the developer for announcements about the new update, vote, generall discussion without reference to the game or this title. And when the update is made the link is sent to the mail or to a website where the patreons will have a user and a password. This is how the patreon payment facility is retained but will no longer have control over the content and will not be able to forbid anything...

The true problem is another here. The problem is that you can never know if among those patreons, hides some mole that immediately goes to report as a thieving cat information to those in duty. Otherwise it would be as easy task i think.

Anyway it is really sad to see that creativity is not free to be expressed in this world either. A game is a game. The contents expressed in a game are only the result of a fantasy. I just do not understand all this hates toward incest game. When out there are games with netorare content that do much more harm and more damage mentally than other types of games. I really like Dating My Daughter very much. And i really hope that you can find a good site where you can establish without more problems of this kind. If only I could support you financially I would have already done so. For now I can only encourage you in this way and hope that everything will work out best. I cross my fingers and I hope everything will be resolved very soon. I hope I can see your story over like you really planned it at the beginning of it all. So take all the time you need, the important thing is that things are done without anyone damaging or damaging you.

 

[Onysko]

@Onysko can you tldr it what paypal has to do with it?

TL;DR
Paypal is subject to very strict rules and regulations in order to maintain their reputation as a valid digital payment method and so they refrain from providing services to... questionable markets.

Spoiler: Expanding slightly on the topic

Be it gambling, porn or whatever. Patreon managed to stay under the radar for a short time, but someone was alerted to much of the lewd things that were going on. And so they were forced to clean up all the hardcore content going on in order to keep Paypal's services, otherwise they would've probably lost a lot of supportes\patrons. I'm no legal expert but apparently you are not paying directly for erotic if you you use Patreon, you are paying for an erotic-content-creator. So I guess as long as the creators play nice and innocent, they are in the clear.

 

[fsck]

I’ll be reuploading Dating My Daughter: Chapter 1 and Ch.2 v.16 (Without censorship!) to site like Payhip, Gumroad, etc. tomorrow. I don’t know how long they will last, but at least those who didn’t like the censored game will be able to get the original one and also help us financially.

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Gumroad doesn't allow "sexually-oriented or pornographic content (including adult books or video, adult telephone conversations or audio, membership to adult websites or content, companion or escort services, dating services, mail-order brides, massage parlors and prostitution)"

 

[Jeff Steel]

TL;DR
Paypal is subject to very strict rules and regulations in order to maintain their reputation as a valid digital payment method and so they refrain from providing services to... questionable markets.

Spoiler: Expanding slightly on the topic

Be it gambling, porn or whatever. Patreon managed to stay under the radar for a short time, but someone was alerted to much of the lewd things that were going on. And so they were forced to clean up all the hardcore content going on in order to keep Paypal's services, otherwise they would've probably lost a lot of supportes\patrons. I'm no legal expert but apparently you are not paying directly for erotic if you you use Patreon, you are paying for an erotic-content-creator. So I guess as long as the creators play nice and innocent, they are in the clear.

I agree, as Patreon’s original business model required negotiation on with the “banks” to not require higher fees for “sex” related Patreon developers. That, I believe, came with certain conditions set to assuage those “banks”. Not sure if the current ratcheting up of restrictions is or is not part “bank” related.

 

[Jeff Steel]

The true problem is another here. The problem is that you can never know if among those patreons, hides some mole that immediately goes to report as a thieving cat information to those in duty. Otherwise it would be as easy task i think.

Anyway it is really sad to see that creativity is not free to be expressed in this world either. A game is a game. The contents expressed in a game are only the result of a fantasy. I just do not understand all this hates toward incest game. When out there are games with netorare content that do much more harm and more damage mentally than other types of games. I really like Dating My Daughter very much. And i really hope that you can find a good site where you can establish without more problems of this kind. If only I could support you financially I would have already done so. For now I can only encourage you in this way and hope that everything will work out best. I cross my fingers and I hope everything will be resolved very soon. I hope I can see your story over like you really planned it at the beginning of it all. So take all the time you need, the important thing is that things are done without anyone damaging or damaging you.

lol - you said you “really like [d]ating [your] [d]aughter very much.”

Juvenile, I know, but in times of great sadness, dumb humor is sometimes needed.

 

[anne O'nymous]

My advice to cheat the system patreon! Keep the page cleaned from any reference to incest and patreons will only support the developer for announcements about the new update, vote, generall discussion without reference to the game or this title. And when the update is made the link is sent to the mail or to a website where the patreons will have a user and a password. This is how the patreon payment facility is retained but will no longer have control over the content and will not be able to forbid anything...

Patreon have already stated, more than once, that they don't care where the game is. As long as it involve a banned content, you can't fund it with Patreon. If MrDots can continue, it's because they'll start a second project. So, the Patreon page will fund this project, and DmD will be technically not funded.

This said, it's a shame. They'll control everything, so it's not anymore a question of guideline, it's now pure censorship. For now it's officially to ensure that there isn't banned content, but what will it be tomorow ? They'll not like the way the story goes and force MrDots to change it ? They'll not like that a black/Asian/Muslim/Budhist/whatever character have a too big part and force an author to change it ?
Shame on them for hundred generations ! I just hope than one of the too many fires in California will burn them alive soon... We are in 2018, but they act like in the end of the 19th century.

 

[ReDe3m3r]

No incest on patreon? 90% of all patreons are incest developer -.-

 

[SteelNight]

if all these CC retailers and paypal have this "moral crusade" or whatever want to put a stop to shit....how does ANY porn exist on the web?

How do sites like Chaturbate exist and take money? Or literally any porn sub site that directly let you pay with VISA?

I guess I just don't get it.