WinxFan

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Jul 21, 2021
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been a while since i played has the breeder gotten any traits of their own yet or is it only the monster girls that get them.
 

kurisu7885

Member
Feb 16, 2020
323
152
Ok, when I go to make a character why aren't any of the body type edits I'm doing carrying over?
The colors are staying just fine but the body keeps coming out in the default settings outside of gender.
 

Minishotgun

Member
May 10, 2017
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Ok, when I go to make a character why aren't any of the body type edits I'm doing carrying over?
The colors are staying just fine but the body keeps coming out in the default settings outside of gender.
dunno if i understood the issue, but from what i learned, when you make custom "skins" for the Nephelym, i noticed that thebody-build and skin stick together,

for example, lets take a dragon, and we remove the wings, giving them a lizard apperance, and then give them some stripes, if we breed this nephelym, depending on the options, we will either get a different dragon and their pre-set color, or a different skin but with the colors of the parrents. either way the body stays the way it was saved within said skin.

so yeah, bodysize is not taken into account when breeding, unless one of the traits that affect the body is involved. you'll have to edit all the official nephelym to fit your preferred bodysize to make sure all of them look the way you want.
 

kurisu7885

Member
Feb 16, 2020
323
152
dunno if i understood the issue, but from what i learned, when you make custom "skins" for the Nephelym, i noticed that thebody-build and skin stick together,

for example, lets take a dragon, and we remove the wings, giving them a lizard apperance, and then give them some stripes, if we breed this nephelym, depending on the options, we will either get a different dragon and their pre-set color, or a different skin but with the colors of the parrents. either way the body stays the way it was saved within said skin.

so yeah, bodysize is not taken into account when breeding, unless one of the traits that affect the body is involved. you'll have to edit all the official nephelym to fit your preferred bodysize to make sure all of them look the way you want.
Not exactly my issue, I'm talking about the player character. I was making a new player character and when I finalized it and got in game the body shape was reset to the default that you start with.
 

Grisgant

New Member
Nov 30, 2020
2
1
Can you give yourself traits and if so how?


I managed to modify some Nephelym information using hex edit (race, gender, traits) thanks to a useful comments that some people posted here some time ago. I wasn't too keen on downloading and executing BOTNTools because of the virus flag (even if it might very well be a false positive), so I decided to make my own simple tool for editing save files.

You can browse through your list of Nephelyms (including the breeder) and modify their race, gender and traits.

I made this tool in Python, so I provide the python script files for people that don't want to execute random exe files on the internet or prefer to use the scripts themselves. You'll need to execute botn_m.py using a relatively moden version of Python. For people who don't care, I also provide the tool compiled into a single .exe which doesn't need Python or any other dependency.

For the sake of completeness, I will briefly describe how to edit files using this tool. You'll first see the following UI when starting the application:
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Go to "File->open save" and select the save you want to edit. After the tool has finished processing the save, it will display the list of Nephelyms. By selecting them, you can see their information in the respective fields. You can see my save as en example:

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Note: you can see that I have some random Nephelym with the human breeder class. This is because I was previously messing around with the save files. Fun fact, you can actually swap almost all races to the human breeder class (except Mares for some reason), some of them looking better than others.

Traits are displayed in the big text field, one line per trait in save order. If we want to modify this Nephelym, we need to click "Modify". After that, we can edit anything but the name of the Nephelym. Before we can actually write to the save file, we need to press "Verify". This transforms any understandable keywords into the respective strings that the game recognizes (e.g. hominal is converted to Trait.Form.Hominal) and performs checks so that no erroneus information is written into the save. In my case, I modified the previous Nephelym with the following data:

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After verifying, the data looks like this:

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After that, we can click "Apply changes" and it will overwrite the opened save file with the following modifications. By default, the tool will perform backups of save files every 2h (meaning it will perform a backup if it detects that the last backup was done over 2h ago), but you can disable/change the time interval in "File->Options".

Note that while traits are generally pretty safe to modify and tweak, modifying gender and sometimes the race of some Nephelyms might result in crashes due to some incompatiblity of the shape and model data. For example, I have observed that changing Futa to Female and viceversa is generally safe (since they are basically identical other than the penis), but changing to Male just doesn't work. Additionally, changing the MC to a big size can be problematic when performing wild sex, as the game gets stuck in the interaction (but strangely enough it seems okay during breeding sessions?).

Finally, while I tried to make the tool as robust as possible, note that it is something that I coded in a week during my spare time. I suggest you make your own backups before starting to edit in case something unexpected happens in the long run.
I remember using this before, worked for me.
 

florameriadoc

Member
Jul 8, 2017
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Not exactly my issue, I'm talking about the player character. I was making a new player character and when I finalized it and got in game the body shape was reset to the default that you start with.
go to the alchemy and talk with Camilla, she's the one who can change your look to the one that you mod has a human variant style, make sure that you remember the name that you gave to the style because there is a few there already
 

Henmaster2020

Newbie
Apr 8, 2021
27
7
Not exactly my issue, I'm talking about the player character. I was making a new player character and when I finalized it and got in game the body shape was reset to the default that you start with.
When you designed it, did you click any of the icons at the top that are for the other body shape traits? Meaty, Chubby, Busty, etc? Because those are for setting how any variant changes when they have those traits at level 3; It's possible you built your character on one of those trait customizations, and due to NOT having any of those traits you're back at default.
 

Henmaster2020

Newbie
Apr 8, 2021
27
7
BOTN Tools, you can give your charaters the same traits as the nephelym, the breeder no longer has it's own trait, it might return one day, but I don't know for sure
Be careful if you're using BOTN Tools though, it's technically out of date and the further I've gotten in game the more issues I've had with it; So far no issues with changing the traits on the breeder or other Nephelym, but I've gotten to where trying to reorder my list of them corrupts the game save. I'm not sure why; I fixed it the first time by deleting the Stoic trait from all my Nephelym, but now it's happening again without it... Also, note that using it will alphabetize the traits of everything but the breeder for some reason, which doesn't look right in the lists.

Actually, does anyone understand what the shortcut launch parameters are doing for it? I'm suddenly wondering if the reason it's corrupting my game save is I changed the shortcut to remove a lot of it and just launch the program.

%windir%\system32\cmd.exe /C start /B /D .\Core .\Core\BOTNTools.exe
 
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florameriadoc

Member
Jul 8, 2017
232
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Be careful if you're using BOTN Tools though, it's technically out of date and the further I've gotten in game the more issues I've had with it; So far no issues with changing the traits on the breeder or other Nephelym, but I've gotten to where trying to reorder my list of them corrupts the game save. I'm not sure why; I fixed it the first time by deleting the Stoic trait from all my Nephelym, but now it's happening again without it... Also, note that using it will alphabetize the traits of everything but the breeder for some reason, which doesn't look right in the lists.

Actually, does anyone understand what the shortcut launch parameters are doing for it? I'm suddenly wondering if the reason it's corrupting my game save is I changed the shortcut to remove a lot of it and just launch the program.

%windir%\system32\cmd.exe /C start /B /D .\Core .\Core\BOTNTools.exe
actually, the program has been updated and compatible with the most recent version of the game
 

kurisu7885

Member
Feb 16, 2020
323
152
When you designed it, did you click any of the icons at the top that are for the other body shape traits? Meaty, Chubby, Busty, etc? Because those are for setting how any variant changes when they have those traits at level 3; It's possible you built your character on one of those trait customizations, and due to NOT having any of those traits you're back at default.
Hmm, ok, yeah I did that and I guess that's been my issue, thanks for the clarification. hopefully that gets fixed soon.
 

kurisu7885

Member
Feb 16, 2020
323
152
go to the alchemy and talk with Camilla, she's the one who can change your look to the one that you mod has a human variant style, make sure that you remember the name that you gave to the style because there is a few there already
Didn't know that was a think now, awesome to know.
 

harestheonly

Member
Nov 25, 2021
251
110
please someone i have lost my full save, could someone share his save? or any kind of cheat, i dont want to do it all again
 

thebufffatrat

Newbie
Nov 3, 2023
19
3
Any update on the problem where I can no longer interact with vagrants? They just stand there right next to their barn in the idle animation and the interact option does not appear when I go near them. Only happened with the most recent update.
 

x_Jp_x

New Member
Sep 30, 2018
12
4
Can you guys help me? every time i try to leave the barn the game crashes and gives me this error....
What hell this means?what should i do now?
 
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