Archived Big Brother: Does this game grind your gears? (poll)

[Daruko01]

My fucking god this game is a steaming pile of shit. The soulcrushing grind, and every characters except from the lil sis (Lisa?) and maybe Kira are absolutely horrible, including the MC. The mom is probably one of the worst, how she gives in to this asshole she's met for a few days is pretty baffling, and how you have no influence on how fast it happens, or if you can avoid it whatsoever by working on your stats and being persuasive enough. Also how the sisters accept her change of behaviour to a bitch without any arguments at all is perplexing. Now there's Alice, no matter how many gifts you buy for her and how much you help her, she will always act like a stuck up bitch to the MC. Her character has no progression at all (still better than the mom tho). Erik is a piece of shit and how fast he settles in the family's life without being able to delay anything he does with the mom is abhorrent. Finally the MC himself is SUCH a pussy. There are so many time he could have stood up for himself and actually do some good for himself, but nooooo. He's gonna be a pussy when it comes to mom, to Alice, and to Erik. Even when he's got leverage on the latter. What a fucking champ, those stats are next to useless.

Sorry, I needed to rant a little.

 

[Rich]

My fucking god this game is a steaming pile of shit.

So don't play it if you don't like it. Find one you like. Or create one better yourself.

While I might not always have gone the same direction that @DarkSilver has chosen with each of the characters, that's what individual creativity is about. He's produced an intricate game with lots of interlocking story lines. Far more complex than your typical RPG Maker game, for example. His graphics are beautiful, and he keeps banging out content every month. And the result sure seems to be far less buggy than some of the other games I see released.

"If you don't like the script, nobody's forcing you to stay to the end..."

Sorry, I needed to rant a little at all the people who are bashing him...

 

[Daruko01]

So don't play it if you don't like it.

It's a valid argument, but also not so much. I tried it, I hated it and I ranted about it. I will definitely not go back to it again, except maybe if he adds some additional things which would make the MC better while still keeping the core for his fans of the game in this state rn. "So don't play it if you don't like it", "If you don't like the script, nobody's forcing you to stay to the end..." while it's true, but it's like saying "if you don't have a positive outlook/arguments on this game then gtfo".

The graphics are really good tho, that's for sure. If you like it, power to you, but after playing for so many hours, I was at my last straw, I could have phrased things better but these were my emotions then.

 

[Rich]

"If you don't like the script, nobody's forcing you to stay to the end..." while it's true, but it's like saying "if you don't have a positive outlook/arguments on this game then gtfo"..

My post was hardly intended to mean that only positive comments should be made. I just thought that the language in yours was a lot harsher than necessary, even for a "grinds my gears" thread. That's all.

 

[nrklol]

The day is 200th...
Finally got rid of Eric...

All I'll say:

...The grind is strong with this one

 

[Jimbles]

The mom is probably one of the worst, how she gives in to this asshole she's met for a few days is pretty baffling, and how you have no influence on how fast it happens, or if you can avoid it whatsoever by working on your stats and being persuasive enough... Those stats are next to useless.

I would have to agree that this is one of the more frustrating parts of the game. I mean it seems DS tried by having the stats improve the chance of extending an event, but there is no overall influence in the game (higher persuasion skill increases your impact on Eric's influence) or creation of new events. I know it's been beaten to death, but especially when it comes to getting rid of Eric. No matter your skill level, all options for the MC to get rid of him are all conclusive with the MC being a little beta bitch that can't handle his own stuff. Don't get me wrong, Eric is a pretty intimidating guy, but he'd still get punched in the nose if he told me his plan was to cheat on my mom with my sisters including (18 year-old) Lisa. Instead the MC goes to bed and bites his pillow. Additionally, building most of the skills requires entirely too much grind, doing the same thing everyday, while trying to keep Eric's influence down just to be completely anticlimactic and not necessary for most story progression.

Despite the overall story-line, grind, and lack of character development, my hat is off to DS as he's managed to do really well with the back end of the game, flushing out bugs, and his renders are beautiful. However, seeing as he's a former game developer with 10 years of experience, this level of quality is to be expected. He does keep pushing out content though, and that's more than most developers can say.

 

[Dudenator]

The day is 200th...
Finally got rid of Eric...

All I'll say:

...The grind is strong with this one

More like it's completely out of control.

This game would be 10 times more bareable if he just halved the soulcrushing, blueballing grind and left everything else as is because thats the worst part. The colossal timesink involved that, if you don't use a walkthrough you end up in the endless cuck spiral of beta bitchdom then it's back to the start and go sink another 10+ hours in.

No game should 'NEED' a walkthrough for you to get anything beyond a nipslip or a flash o cooter in under 5 bloody hours.

 

[version93]

I came here to voice my rant, but others have said it as well as I could have. It’s tough to finish a book or game when hate yourself and every option you can and will do.

Images are great. Everything else from story, grammar, grind, dev interaction, etc.. a hot pile of garbage.

 

[Irphaeus]

I tried this game 2 month ago and it seem's to became even worse... people got now the same opinion i had ^^

Game is beautifull but you suffer a poor story with event that occur way too fast, i don't think you can do or choose anything before some point.
A shame because i can understand that a dev who diluate some content to "milk" his patreons(they all does) but i don't understand the point to diluate the content delivered in the game itself to make it artificialy play for hours and for nothing.
It's even more insulting for Patreons, who paid for a game which is not even entertaining in the end...

I think this forum should be more concerned about game quality since we are now filled with this kind of game, some of those game don't deserve so much attention.
Of course majority of them are for making money but there is a decent way to make money with your Patreons instead of exploiting them...
I think a better or more clear review system or topic must be created, with some "official forum" user/reviewer.

 

[PepsiMan]

My fucking god this game is a steaming pile of shit. The soulcrushing grind, and every characters except from the lil sis (Lisa?) and maybe Kira are absolutely horrible, including the MC. The mom is probably one of the worst, how she gives in to this asshole she's met for a few days is pretty baffling, and how you have no influence on how fast it happens, or if you can avoid it whatsoever by working on your stats and being persuasive enough. Also how the sisters accept her change of behaviour to a bitch without any arguments at all is perplexing. Now there's Alice, no matter how many gifts you buy for her and how much you help her, she will always act like a stuck up bitch to the MC. Her character has no progression at all (still better than the mom tho). Erik is a piece of shit and how fast he settles in the family's life without being able to delay anything he does with the mom is abhorrent. Finally the MC himself is SUCH a pussy. There are so many time he could have stood up for himself and actually do some good for himself, but nooooo. He's gonna be a pussy when it comes to mom, to Alice, and to Erik. Even when he's got leverage on the latter. What a fucking champ, those stats are next to useless.

Sorry, I needed to rant a little.

i can't agree more with you, i would give you a like but i don't want more problems @Sam can i like this guy?

 

[Sam]

i can't agree more with you, i would give you a like but i don't want more problems @Sam can i like this guy?

As long as you and 9 other people don't attempt to inflate their own stats, I'm sure it'll be fine. Let me know if you need a diagram of right and wrong and I might be able to draw one up for you.

If you have a problem with me, PM me or F95, you don't have to bring it into every other thread.

 

[Netori Popeye]

I agree with the general consensus here, but I also want to say that the game has crazy potential. It would only require one really ambitious, skilled, and incredibly bored individual to rewrite the game into something great. Hopefully we'll see that someday, or maybe even the developer himself will sort things out.

 

[Solak]

To be honest, I actually like that your character is pretty much "helpless" and has to start from scratch, making lots of mistakes, nagging his mom for pocket money. He's not (entirely) the super playboy many games give us and it makes the rising to success and power that much more satisfying. As for him not punching Eric, he's actually smart not to do it, though he could have registered a video of Eric blackmailing him (he does have cams all around). But punching Eric wouldn't have proven anything and instead made things that much worse for himself.

What I do NOT like is what others mentioned about Alice and his mom. His mom is a traumatised rape victim and instead of helping her out of it or something, you abuse that weakness to get in her pants. As for Alice, she's just in it for the money. Like if you help her with her blog, she asks you (a total stranger from her PoV no less!) for ridiculous amounts of money while saying "I'm not a whore like the others". Uh-huh. Right. And despite everything you did for her, she's still going on about kicking your balls. Ungrateful B****!

Lisa had a bit the same issue on her route - I was really scared that she'd really end up with that Alex douche despite cute moments plus Lisa obviously thinking highly and dearly of the dude. At least she did tell you thanks and that she appreciated all you did for her, unlike a certain other sister. Luckily, she did end up realising that and so now, we're left with just the cute, heartwarming parts. Seriously though, Lisa and Aunt Kira are the only ones close enough to him that he'd share part of his plans with them. They're the 2 best girls by far, Olivia coming 3rd place.

Still, that leaves me hopeful that Alice and mom Ann will have some nice developments in their story. But for now, Alice is pretty much an unlikeable b**** "exorting" you with few cute moments, and you're still abusing your mom's trauma, mom who on top of that is now jobless unless you make her into a pornstar. Whoo! Fun times. I do love me some rainbows in the morning.

 

[Funny Asian Pirate]

I totally agree. Your character, Max, starts out the game as the weird, beta male, cuck NEET; and since he is the weird black sheep in the family (who happens to have a summer sausage sized wang), it does make sense that he needs to rely on uncouth methods to seduce his family. This isn’t a normal family to begin with, if it was, your character wouldn’t be trying to bang his mom or his sisters. I guess a lot of players are used to Snow Daze or Lab Rats where the PC uses drugs or magic/hyponosis instead of in this game where he uses manipulation and bargaining.

I think alot of players want this to be Fallout in terms of dialogue choices and sure it might be more realistic if stats played a larger part but subtle role in the story than just adding more dialog or leading into a sex scene.

I do think this game is very grindy even when you use cheats and for the current development progress for the game; it’s a lot of work for not a very lot payoff with a few brief h scenes with Alice as being the furthest in the progression. The character renders look great (I think I’m in love with Lisa) but the sex scenes do feel brief and the angles of some of the scenes are “meh”. Hell, the fan art renders from some of the members here look way hotter than what is the vanilla game.

The herem mentality also makes the player feel very uncomfortable that unless you play your cards carefully, pick the right dialogue options, and manage your money carefully, you run the risk of helplessly seeing your aunt and both of your sisters getting seduced by the guy you hate. Some people might be turned off by cuckhold (or the NTR-esque aspect) of your romantic interests i.e your mom and sis getting persued.

This game has a lot of potential of being really good but it has some problems with pacing and the grinding could be dialed down. I know the developers want to dilute the content and stop it when it is just about to get saucy but Jesus, this game blue-balls you worse than Dating my Daughter. I feel like this game is going to be the Mass Effect 3 of porn games, a lot of potential and hype but it will have a end that just peters outs.

 

[dchimera]

I stopped playing this a long time ago, but I 'll chime in that I agree with a lot of the prior posts. The renders of the women are beautiful, but the grind and cucking/NTR story were too brutal for me. I couldn't stomach it so I had to stop.

 

[megadork]

I stopped playing this a long time ago, but I 'll chime in that I agree with a lot of the prior posts. The renders of the women are beautiful, but the grind and cucking/NTR story were too brutal for me. I couldn't stomach it so I had to stop.

Yeah....same here.

The renders are indeed gorgeous but the game and story really fall short and don't do them justice.

 

[lukazil]

It's such a shame, because the women are SO hot, and the premise is solid ( Brother trying to seduce his family while foiling the plans of the rich asshole) but this game becomes a chore to play, rather than a joy. and the scenes, while appealing, are either one-offs that you'll never see again, or are repeated so much that they become meaningless, while you wait for RNGejus to advance the plot.

 

[User_215882]

If it wasn't for the massive grind this game would be a hell of a lot better. But when you add that to the meh story it just becomes boring. Like the Eric storyline could have been done much better and, I know its still in development, Max character could see some change especially after you get rid of Eric would have been nice. Renders are good so just rip the CGS and enjoy that until you either see the complete or abandonment tag (highly doubt it gets abandon).

 

[WhiteFireDaemon]

I've played this game a few times and despite how frustrating it can be sometimes in it's mechanics, I haven't dropped it yet. I don't play without cheats anymore however, as that's the only way it's barely manageable. Skipping over the annoying to manage website, the slow grind, and the modular programming...this game is first and foremost inconsistent, and that's the major glaring problem.

At the beginning of the game, it maintains a small bit of consistency if not plausibility. You have no sexual relationship with any of your family, and so when you violate their privacy they get mad. Later in the game however, it makes no sense that you still can't enter the bathroom! Lisa starts sleeping in the nude but still gets pissed off if you walk in on her in the bathroom. You walk in on her blogging and fuck her, but she won't let you into the bathroom with her. And all of this is of course overshadowed by the glaringly inconsistent control that Eric wields over your family. He can convince your mother in under two weeks, to sleep with her, spank her children naked, and even ignore photographic evidence that he's a peeping scumbag that wants to fuck her daughters. He can somehow convince Ann to let Eric give Lisa Sex Ed lessons, but his powers of persuasion never led to him even so much as groping her? You chase an opportunity to buy lingerie for Alice, but before you even can buy the first piece, Eric is already getting private peep shows with her? He can convince Ann to let him punish Alice behind closed doors, presumably naked, but nothing ever happens between them?

The logic in this game is what I think frustrates everyone the most. It's horribly inconsistent. I can enjoy a game even with this premise and with how beautiful it is, there is a lot of respect on the skill in the creation of the pictures. This game however takes far too much work for very little reward, there's no animations, there's usually only a few pictures with brief descriptions for the sex scenes. How great would it have been to have an extended scene in the living room where you could stay and watch your mother give Eric a blowjob? Why the hell can't I use the secret cameras I have installed to spy on the moments when Eric is alone with your sisters? I can buy that you don't want to get caught peeping on Lisa's sex ed lessons, but that doesn't mean you couldn't sit in your room and watch through the damn cameras you spent so much money to install!!!

 

[Grimpack]

Even cheating the game seems to be hardcoded to only allow certain event to happen if flag a or x are set. Like you can cheat in relationship levels with people to the maximum but it doesn't seem to even have an affect on anything. It's like the stat is just there for flavor. The skills are similar but the problem with those is the author coded the game to preroll the outcomes. So no save scumming allowed. You have to use a save from quite a few hours before an event to alter the outcome of the rng you get. There's a lot of other problems with this game I don't care to go into and for me at least other than the art this game isn't worth it right now. Maybe in about 20 or 100 updates it will get there if a direction it's trying to get to is ever decided upon.