Darth Sidious

The Senate & Emperor of the First Galactic Empire
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If I understand the question right, because of Patreon, they essentially changed the moral lense with how they see these themes and forced everyone to either practically censoring their projects or face demise, is not just incest that got targeted mind you, bestiality is another one among other kinds of content you'll see being banned from the platform now.
Yes exactly, 'morality'. But the initiative wasn't from Patreon themselves, it came from Paypal. Since the majority of the subscribers paying through Patreon uses Paypal, they can't just renounce Paypal because Patreon will lose most of the majority of the people who use Paypal as a payment gateway. So in truth, Paypal makes the rules, and Paypal says 'No sexual content'. Of course, this change will not happen over night, businesses like Patreon get a period where they are allowed to announce the change and enforce it. Paypal could eventually force Patreon to stop hosting for developers that produce games with ANY sexual content.
 

Deimacos

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Yes exactly, 'morality'. But the initiative wasn't from Patreon themselves, it came from Paypal...
Hmm... I would say is because of both, Paypal being a prude bellend, and Patreon being a wimp of sorts, I get that Paypal makes for a lot of the subscribers, but they did have a contract going on and I can't see Paypal not knowing what kind of projects some people had, In not saying Patreon had to stomp their foot, but surely they could have room for negotiations.

The problem I see is that Patreon had a somewhat vague definition of what "adult content" was, this allowed devs to stretch the definition, but it may also allowed Paypal to tug the other way, in any case, it was a dick move from Patreon to just go and shut down pages until changes were forcefully made without any kind of notice, all while still preaching creativity freedom.

Currently the mother, while the sister has a blowjob and 69, and the teacher has a lot of dialogue with a kiss and massaging of the kitty.
I believe Effie has a sex scene at night, I might be wrong thou...
 

Alo

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I can t paste the incest patch in android and already seen the instructions can someone help please?
 

Serbakan

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I don't know if i am only one who has problems with skill levelling after the last update. Although i am doing required actions ( like attending classes, doing matches at fight club,playing card games etc.. ), skill points remaining the same. Just going cinema with Mom can increase these stats. Anybody knows how to fix this ?
 

Deimacos

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I don't know if i am only one who has problems with skill levelling after the last update. Although i am doing required actions ( like attending classes, doing matches at fight club,playing card games etc.. ), skill points remaining the same. Just going cinema with Mom can increase these stats. Anybody knows how to fix this ?
By a guess (and a bit naive but it happened to me the first time I played), there's a difference between leveling a skill and recovering a skill.

Doing activities only levels up your skills, so you can hold more points.
But as far as I know, the only way to actually recover points is by sleeping while having an Idol from the mall in your inventory, or going to the cinema with Mom.

A bit more information on skills:
  1. The max level is 20.
  2. You need to raise your efforts after certain levels:
    • For study/running/dancing: do it harder
    • For cards/fighting: climb the ladder
  3. If I got it right, you are meant to fail/lose certain activities on certain days no matter what, so rollback and try another day.
  4. There's this weird bug where leveling up will skip one or two points, but if you just keep on leveling it should fix on its own.
  5. For recovering, there are two ways, getting an Idol or going to the cinema with Mom:
    • You get Idols at the mall, the first one is free.
    • Each Idol recovers stats in different ways.
    • The best Idol will give you back 5 points on each stat per day after sleeping, it cost's $200, it only takes three days of two shifts at the job to get $280, so just go for it.
    • Watching horror, action or romance movies at the cinema will recover 4 points on stamina, strength, and charisma respectively.
If you have tried all of the above and still have the problem, then congratulations, you may have found a bug.
 

Serbakan

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Feb 24, 2018
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By a guess (and a bit naive but it happened to me the first time I played), there's a difference between leveling a skill and recovering a skill.

Doing activities only levels up your skills, so you can hold more points.
But as far as I know, the only way to actually recover points is by sleeping while having an Idol from the mall in your inventory, or going to the cinema with Mom.

A bit more information on skills:
  1. The max level is 20.
  2. You need to raise your efforts after certain levels:
    • For study/running/dancing: do it harder
    • For cards/fighting: climb the ladder
  3. If I got it right, you are meant to fail/lose certain activities on certain days no matter what, so rollback and try another day.
  4. There's this weird bug where leveling up will skip one or two points, but if you just keep on leveling it should fix on its own.
  5. For recovering, there are two ways, getting an Idol or going to the cinema with Mom:
    • You get Idols at the mall, the first one is free.
    • Each Idol recovers stats in different ways.
    • The best Idol will give you back 5 points on each stat per day after sleeping, it cost's $200, it only takes three days of two shifts at the job to get $280, so just go for it.
    • Watching horror, action or romance movies at the cinema will recover 4 points on stamina, strength, and charisma respectively.
If you have tried all of the above and still have the problem, then congratulations, you may have found a bug.
First of all thank you for your detailed answer. Although i am playing this game almost from the begining of this project, it is first time for me to face with this kind of trouble. Until the previous update, recovering a skill can only be made by certain activities such as playing card games to gain luck points, beating people at fight club to gain strength points etc... After your explanation, i understood that, it seems game mechanic has already been changed without any special warning.

At the other hand, i have another problem about relation points. Although i have 10 (max) relationship points for Mom, i can not enter her room and a pop up message warns me that, i need 9 relation points for Mom to be able to enter her room !!! ???

Let me answer and ask some questions about your previously explained points as following;

2- For cards/fighting: climb the ladder
Sorry but i can not understand this explanation. Where can i find a ladder to climb ?

3- If I got it right, you are meant to fail/lose certain activities on certain days no matter what, so rollback and try another day.
Thank you for this tip however i am actually doing the same thing. Although i made certain activties successfully (without fail or lose ) , couldn't able to gain skill points.

4- There's this weird bug where leveling up will skip one or two points, but if you just keep on leveling it should fix on its own.
Most probably this bug is what i have crushed at the moment. It is become really boring when doing activities without recovering any skill points at each day.

5- For recovering, there are two ways, getting an Idol or going to the cinema with Mom:
  • You get Idols at the mall, the first one is free.
  • Each Idol recovers stats in different ways.
  • The best Idol will give you back 5 points on each stat per day after sleeping, it cost's $200, it only takes three days of two shifts at the job to get $280, so just go for it.
  • Watching horror, action or romance movies at the cinema will recover 4 points on stamina, strength, and charisma respectively.
Like i said before, it seems mechanic of recovering skill points has been changed... Well, i have no way but to buy Idols...

Anyway, i appreciate with your kind answer and detailed explanation.
Thank you...
 

Deimacos

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Anyway, i appreciate with your kind answer and detailed explanation.
No problem, for the record, I started playing with this build, so I've no knowledge on how things where before, now to your queries:

1.- For Mom's room I need more information, you'll have to tell me where in the story with her are you, if it's day or night, all that stuff, otherwise, I can't tell where the problem may be.

2.- "climb the ladder" is an expression, it just means you need to go up in the leaderboard, in the cards, for example, you start with the dude on the left, then with the dude in the center, and so on, and the same goes for the fights.

3.- Hmm... I really don't know what to tell you then... so pardon my question, but in your phone, are the level bars completely white or they still have grey squares to the right?

4.-
I've only had two or three points bugged out on me in just one of the five bars, I can't see this being the case with you since you seem to say is with all bars and with a lot of points, unless you're that unlucky.
 

Serbakan

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Feb 24, 2018
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No problem, for the record, I started playing with this build, so I've no knowledge on how things where before, now to your queries:

1.- For Mom's room I need more information, you'll have to tell me where in the story with her are you, if it's day or night, all that stuff, otherwise, I can't tell where the problem may be.

2.- "climb the ladder" is an expression, it just means you need to go up in the leaderboard, in the cards, for example, you start with the dude on the left, then with the dude in the center, and so on, and the same goes for the fights.

3.- Hmm... I really don't know what to tell you then... so pardon my question, but in your phone, are the level bars completely white or they still have grey squares to the right?

4.-
I've only had two or three points bugged out on me in just one of the five bars, I can't see this being the case with you since you seem to say is with all bars and with a lot of points, unless you're that unlucky.
I am still considering about bug option for the game but here, you can find my answers ;

1- At objectives part, it says "Sleep at night" for Mom progression. I am not sure but maybe game is not allowing players to continue it's story without dimensional travel ( I am still not past dimensional travelling part to other world ).

2- I clearly understood now. Maybe using cheat codes to gain skill points would be the best option however i dont know where i should enter them.

3- Yes, there are still grey squares at the right of each skill bar. Not many but they are exists.

First of all, I will try to past this dimensional travelling thing to see what happened.
 

Deimacos

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You shouldn't have to do the dimensional traveling, it changes some dialogs but is no requirement to unlock a character's path yet.
I take the last thing you did with mom was to watch the video with her right? if so all you should do is precisely go to sleep, you should get another event while you sleep, and you'll get a different one if you got that magazine from Hitomi.
Although I still don't know where that "9 points" message is coming from.
 

Shardoom

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Is there a way yet 'in-game' to use up luck points? I really don't want to cheat to get the skinny dip fuck scene.
 

Trapezio

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What the fuck ? then what is new in this update ? it's like the dev has lost his passion now
Since he can't copy Summertime Saga anymore, he has no idea of what to do next. The main storyline is too weak/bad and the sidequests aren't going anywhere.
 
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However Patreon is in part owned by Paypal who has distaste for said content.
Sigh. This is not the problem. The problem is the credit card companies. They do not want to be involved in illegal activity because it would cost them money. Incest, for all intensive purposes, is not legal. If you want to use credit card companies to make money, you can't use it for illegal activities. The credit car companies will not work with you if you do anything even remotely sketchy and they catch wind of it. No game is ever gonna be worth screwing up a system making millions of dollars otherwise. Paypal doesn't give a shit what you do so long as it's not gonna create ire with Visa, Mastercard, etc. I'm sure paypal has rules too, but a lot them are probably based off not raising the ire of the credit card companies because it's likely a major gravy train for their business model.

Notice how as soon as the incest is gone, everything seems to get the a-ok again. Fucking people is a-ok from a legal standpoint. Fucking your sister is a crime, no matter how conscenting everyone is. This is why you see all the step incest porn from the major porn studios.
 
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