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Carpe Stultus

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There's a reason I said "a lot" and not "most". Plus we're on F95, so it's not like anyone has to worry about their money going to an asshole.
Tz tz tz will you stop taking it serious when i just try to reassure him that he is safe? :LUL:
 

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That is one of the issues really, people rarely tend to give it a 2nd shot. They try it once, they don't like it, they move on. It is always kind of the deal that if you fuck up at initial release... you're screwed down the line.
I do find myself going back to some games again and again because the banner/name DOES hook me in. thinking what was the problem with this again? I'd want to like it. then I hit the thing and remember "oh, right, NTR" or whatever it was.

point being that the working hooks will keep working even after you've found out there's a dealbreaker. so it would seem likely that if you fix things (like the boring banner/name) it will begin to draw people in. even if you earlier discarded the game.
 
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I do find myself going back to some games again and again because the banner/name DOES hook me in. thinking what was the problem with this again? I'd want to like it. then I hit the thing and remember "oh, right, NTR" or whatever it was.

point being that the working hooks will keep working even after you've found out there's a dealbreaker. so it would seem likely that if you fix things (like the boring banner/name) it will begin to draw people in. even if you earlier discarded the game.
Yeah, I used to run into the same problem a lot myself.
Once I realized it though I finally started making use of the ignore thread button.
Now those games with dealbreakers don't even show up anymore on the latest updates page for me. :D

But you do make a valid point.
A good banner and name is great bait.
 

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Have you even looked at the most popular porn games? They're 90% incest harem games lol.
Most popular porn games are visual novels, and as such will be those incest harem "games". However, they play out more similar to a choose-yourown-adventure story (and the decisions there matter more anyways) and many people would say that CHYOA's aren't games. The reason you don't see the same amount of H-Games than H-Visual Novels is for two reasons: First, you don't have to worry about game balance or thinking up new mechanics. Second is that gameplay requires coding which most writers are not coders/programmers, and that also increases production time. Even then, some games never go beyond surface level concepts or are outright interactive porn.
 

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On the other side, I've heard authors say one of the best things to help one write better is having a person you can trust giving honest reviews. I would suggest PM some of the posters in this thread for that with later versions of your game. It can only help!
The advice I've been given from a professional writer is to have a "trustworthy reviewer" (I'm translating his words, no idea how to call it in engrish exactly).
What he meant by that, is someone with whom you have a very precise contract :
They tell you what they felt from your writing in the most honest way possible (because it's very important to have feedback to see if you managed to create the emotion you intended to).
But they are absolutely forbidden to give you any advice or critic.
Only how they felt.
It's generally a relative, a friend, a fellow writer or your editor.

After that, you are free to push the relation further and analyze together what went wrong (it is totally optional), and only at this phase can they give advises or share their opinion (optional too).
 

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which ones of these are visual novels?, Summertime Saga I think?
tbh not sure because Ive never played it D=
 

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which ones of these are visual novels?, Summertime Saga I think?
tbh not sure because Ive never played it D=
Categorized as VNs:
  • Summertime Saga (Dark Cookie)
  • Innocent Witches (Sad Crab)
But there are 2 or 3 text-based adventures in that list that, although not VNs, are more about the writing than the artwork. I don't know the context in which you are wondering.
 

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So many try, fail. Never get back their investment. A few succeed. With the percentage of devs getting something out of it. You can stop drinking.
Yeah, it's just the top 8, and there's already an enormous difference between the US$ 124k/month for Adeptus Steve and the US$ 19K/month for Team nimbus. Expand to the top 100 to found the first to earn less than US$ 2K/month, and there's near to 4,900 others authors after this. It's just an approximation, but Adeptus Steve is probably earning more than the bottom half (2,500 authors) put together.
 
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I can't believe this thread is still going.


In retrospect I probably should have just realized I can turn off thread notifications and not nuked it, but in my defense I had been awake literally less than 5 minutes at that point. I'm not known for making good decisions pre-caffeine.
 

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which ones of these are visual novels?, Summertime Saga I think?
tbh not sure because Ive never played it D=
I was just really bashing on what the other guy said and I've only played a few games you've listed. But I will say that wild life plays out more like a visual novel with it's bare acknowledgment of it's combat system.
 

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This thread is making me feel out of step in the way I pick my games compared to others on F95. I look at tags first, then Banner, Overview, Genre (to double check tags) and then Pictures... and if anything looks interesting, I go to Changelog to find how old the game is. Then download sites (MEGA preferred) and game sizes, and sometimes I check page count of the thread and poke around.
 

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Ah, looks like I'm late to the party. Here's my opinion anyways:
I think games targeted towards (ultimately) niche fetishes like incest, blackmail, NTR, virginity, harems, ect. will never manage to be good games. Those fetishes will often make it harder to focus on real gameplay because you can't really tie those into any kind of interactive gameplay. I mean what are you gonna have, an incest combo? A blackmail cancel?
Stuff like blackmail, NTR, rape etc can totally work with a darkly dystopian world (Papers Please style gameplay, for example).

Also, since when did Virginity and Harem become niche fetishes? Asking for a friend. :D