Female Protagonist game lovers-Are you.....?

[baneini]

Why wouldn't female protag games mostly be made by and for straight males? It's a weird assumption to make.

Theres lots of corruption games with female mc because it fits that style of game.

 

[BrokenDreams]

I wont believe it, until hear it from themselves. This poll shows only that straight men play female protagonist games, but nothing to proof that straight men play non-lesbian versions thereof. I will just leave it at that, more than before convinced that if they exist they are a very small and obscure minority.

Did you ever visit any non-lesbian Fem-Pro game thread?How many popular strictly lesbian Fem-Pro games are on this site?As I have mentioned 90% popular Fem-pro games here are Heterosexual.So,where are all the straight/bisexual girls,bisexual males as they should "statistically" consist of the large portion of Fem-Pro lovers in this site.If your statement is true then all the Major Heterosexual Fem-Pro games are played by bots.

 

[polywog]

I wont believe it, until hear it from themselves. This poll shows only that straight men play female protagonist games, but nothing to proof that straight men play non-lesbian versions thereof. I will just leave it at that, more than before convinced that if they exist they are a very small and obscure minority.

When you watch a straight porn scene... does it make you uncomfortable when the girl is on top? Is it possible for you to just watch the scene without self inserting as one of the characters. Protagonist doesn't mean YOU, the MC main character is the one who has the most screen time. A lot of guys prefer spending all that time looking at a girl, and watching her have sex occasionally.

 

[Darkmetal]

The most popular genre of Fem-pro games by a country mile are fem corruption games. Just do a search here for fem-pro tag and then sort by weighted rating. Mouse over the first few rows and you will find that 11 of the top 12 will also have tags for Corruption, Blackmail and/or Rape (many will also have humiliation and male domination tags). In Japan, the "Broken Heroine" category is insanely popular among males. (Western examples of "broken heroine" would be Claire's Quest and Overgrown:Genesis).

This actually plays into many of the same kinks as male-pro games where the dude corrupts/seduces/mind controls a house full of girls into sluts. Now in adult comics, you can read both the female thought bubble and the male thought bubble at the same time. In games, you are largely restricted to one side. A male playing a female MC is not "identifying" with the avatar (well maybe some do, but I can't speak for them) it's just choosing to read the female dialogue and thought tree as a change from time to time - and often it's a lot hotter.

Interesting side note: According to Porn Hub, the most searched for porn tag for straight females is "Rough Sex" and "BDSM" so perhaps these games appeal to straight females as well but the above poll doesn't reflect that. (The most popular tag for males is "MILF.")

 

[Avaron1974]

Interesting side note: According to Porn Hub, the most searched for porn tag for straight females is "Rough Sex" and "BDSM" so perhaps these games appeal to straight females as well but the above poll doesn't reflect that. (The most popular tag for males is "MILF.")

Gonna need your source on that because Pornhub disagrees with you.

Rough sex and BDSM don't even come up on the most searched for terms for women.

 

[BrokenDreams]

Gonna need your source on that because Pornhub disagrees with you.

Rough sex and BDSM don't even come up on the most searched for terms for women.

I was really surprised by the inclusion of Gang Bangs in the top searches for women.For the longest time I was under the assumption that this particular fetish is more catered towards men.

 

[Darkmetal]

Yeah, looks like my data was outdated to when charts were boosted by 50 shades.

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Doing a quick search reveals that the most searched term on porn sites in 2018 was not a genre at all but was for Stormy Daniels followed by Fornite (parody?). I did stumble onto this 2019 chart which was kinda interesting.

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[Ataios]

No worries.That's the whole point I am trying to make all along.They exist and they are the majority.

When you watch a straight porn scene... does it make you uncomfortable when the girl is on top? Is it possible for you to just watch the scene without self inserting as one of the characters. Protagonist doesn't mean YOU, the MC main character is the one who has the most screen time. A lot of guys prefer spending all that time looking at a girl, and watching her have sex occasionally.

It's absolutely zero immersion for me. I never relate to any character in any form of porn in any way. I cannot comprehend why people chose their own name for the MC and find the concept of self insertion completely alien. I consider straight sex to be lesser sex when it comes to porn. Every male character is one too many and a negative visual impact. I can tolerate a male protagonist if the other fetishes are right but I don't watch straight porn in videos. A straight game with a female protagonist is a lost opportunity. I can relate to protagonists and enjoy straight romances in regular games though.

 

[Ataios]

I was really surprised by the inclusion of Gang Bangs in the top searches for women.For the longest time I was under the assumption that this particular fetish is more catered towards men.

Gay men I can understand. But straight? It's gay porn with a token woman. For women I can understand somehow as well, as the female form of a harem.

 

[BrokenDreams]

I consider straight sex to be lesser sex when it comes to porn. Every male character is one too many and a negative visual impact. I can tolerate a male protagonist if the other fetishes are right but I don't watch straight porn in videos. A straight game with a female protagonist is a lost opportunity.

I completely understand your feeling about Dicks in regular porn and porn games and you are entitled to your liking but to dismiss the fact that straight regular porn,straight porn games and Fem-Pro games with straight sex is still the most popular among straight males is naive.

 

[Catapo]

If there are any straight men who prefer non-lesbian female protagonist games, I have no idea why. But if they exist they can explain their preferences to you, I certainly can't.

We exist. I am 100% straight and I prefer non-lesbian female protagonist games. I can't speak for everyone but I can explain my own mindset:

- I don't self insert into the MC instead I see myself as a third party controlling the action of someone else. It's kind of a power fetish.
- Even playing as a brainless slut is somehow more interesting to me than playing as most male protagonists: douchebags, creeps, borderline/actual rapists. I just hate them and I don't want to be the one responsible for those actions. I would rather control the person getting raped than the one doing the raping.
- I like the cute romantic aspects of lesbian relationships but for some reason lesbian porn never appealed to me.
- I don't get turned off by seeing a dick, it's natural to see them in porn.
- I don't see playing as a female and getting into a gangbang as being gay instead I see it as a humiliation/degradation thing tying back to the whole control/power complex.
- Consistent content. It's more appealing to me to see a single female in multiple situations than seeing multiple females in 1-2 situations.

I bet there are other reasons why straight males play this type of games but these are my main ones

 

[moskyx]

We exist. I am 100% straight and I prefer non-lesbian female protagonist games. I can't speak for everyone but I can explain my own mindset:

- I don't self insert into the MC instead I see myself as a third party controlling the action of someone else. It's kind of a power fetish.
- Even playing as a brainless slut is somehow more interesting to me than playing as most male protagonists: douchebags, creeps, borderline/actual rapists. I just hate them and I don't want to be the one responsible for those actions. I would rather control the person getting raped than the one doing the raping.
- I like the cute romantic aspects of lesbian relationships but for some reason lesbian porn never appealed to me.
- I don't get turned off by seeing a dick, it's natural to see them in porn.
- I don't see playing as a female and getting into a gangbang as being gay instead I see it as a humiliation/degradation thing tying back to the whole control/power complex.
- Consistent content. It's more appealing to me to see a single female in multiple situations than seeing multiple females in 1-2 situations.

I bet there are other reasons why straight males play this type of games but these are my main ones

Control is the key point here. Some people don't need to relate to the MC to enjoy a porn scene/game (I fully agree with Ataios, I also find extremely weird and even worrying that "inmersion" concept). Some people just enjoy controlling another person's life (especially in a fictional environment). And if that character is a hot chick who keeps being involved in all kind of sexual situations YOU can control and even decide whether you want her to experiment or not, then it's perfect. Some people don't want the MC to be an alter ego of them but a puppet in their hands. In my case, I also love watching women getting pleasure so lesbian porn is also hot (my ideal lesbian scene for straight men would always finish with an anonymous man's cumshot over the girls, though, but that's just my dirty mind)

 

[BrokenDreams]

Control is the key point here. Some people don't need to relate to the MC to enjoy a porn scene/game (I fully agree with Ataios, I also find extremely weird and even worrying that "inmersion" concept). Some people just enjoy controlling another person's life (especially in a fictional environment). And if that character is a hot chick who keeps being involved in all kind of sexual situations YOU can control and even decide whether you want her to experiment or not, then it's perfect. Some people don't want the MC to be an alter ego of them but a puppet in their hands. In my case, I also love watching women getting pleasure so lesbian porn is also hot (my ideal lesbian scene for straight men would always finish with an anonymous man's cumshot over the girls, though, but that's just my dirty mind)

I also find total immersion kind of creepy(more so if it is an incest game) but the user Ataios also proclaims that straight males are not likely to play any Fem-Pro games if it has heterosexual sex in it though in reality most heterosexual Fem-Pro games are played by straight male.

 

[moskyx]

I also find total immersion kind of creepy(more so if it is an incest game) but the user Ataios also proclaims that straight males are not likely to play any Fem-Pro games if it has heterosexual sex in it though in reality most heterosexual Fem-Pro games are played by straight male.

Yeah, I was referring only to what he said about the immersion thing. Regarding the main point of the thread, I'm closer to Catapo and polywog opinions

 

[Delmach]

Absolutely the same reasons Catapo listed. I dont immerse in the female character, I never really do in any game.

Im the puppet master, and I steer the pawns into situations I want to see.

 

[mesoru]

Poll should probably have the distinction for lesbian and straight femPC games, just to give more accuracy on what games we're talking about.
But damn, if anyone tells me the majority of the 41776 people who bought "Ideology in Friction" on dlsite is made of gay men, i'll just laught at that bullshit. Why would they buy a game full of straight scenes when they have far better options with men on men action out there.
And don't even come up with the immersion excuse, not everyone does that shit.

 

[Sphere42]

Straight male, I mostly look through female protagonist games for the variety offered by non-human "partners". Toys tend to get sidelined in male protag/hetero games, if they are included at all it's usually just a pink rotor and a crappy dildo that's smaller than both your dick and your arm. Especially if we're counting plot-free games like your typical flash a woman solo show usually offers more variety than "dick in, dick out, double speed, yoghurt".

The other point, which I don't specifically blame male-protag for, is that many of them tend to be rapey douchebags which I simply cannot stand. While those characters also feature in many female protag games it's easier to "cut your losses" and find a few scenes without them (for example because the art style is very good) whereas with a douche male MC you can usually bin the entire game.

And for the more guilty pleasures such as tentacles or aliens both factors usually combine. With "corruption" games (in quotes because I mean the "instant slut, just insert sperm" variety) you can quickly reach a point where the sex is enjoyed by everyone and kinda consensual. I don't recall any male-protag game where you have tentacles and aren't a criminal by human moral standards.

 

[Ataios]

We exist. I am 100% straight and I prefer non-lesbian female protagonist games. I can't speak for everyone but I can explain my own mindset:

- I don't self insert into the MC instead I see myself as a third party controlling the action of someone else. It's kind of a power fetish.
- Even playing as a brainless slut is somehow more interesting to me than playing as most male protagonists: douchebags, creeps, borderline/actual rapists. I just hate them and I don't want to be the one responsible for those actions. I would rather control the person getting raped than the one doing the raping.
- I like the cute romantic aspects of lesbian relationships but for some reason lesbian porn never appealed to me.
- I don't get turned off by seeing a dick, it's natural to see them in porn.
- I don't see playing as a female and getting into a gangbang as being gay instead I see it as a humiliation/degradation thing tying back to the whole control/power complex.
- Consistent content. It's more appealing to me to see a single female in multiple situations than seeing multiple females in 1-2 situations.

I bet there are other reasons why straight males play this type of games but these are my main ones

Quite the contrary as far as cute and romantic goes: I see cute and romantic traits of straight relationship in real life, regular movies and regular games. As far as lesbian relationships in porn games or other adult media go, I like the uncertain tension between the characters and the dominating aspect of a lesbian relationship. I know there are cute and romantic lesbian relationships too, but I prefer those involving domination and manipulation as far as porn or even other fiction goes.

I also prefer settings, where lesbian sex is still somewhat of a taboo and one of the women involved struggles with her attraction to other women, while the other is more self confident.

Do you see gangbangs as a degradation of the female character or of the male characters? I guess it is somehow degrading to both and I don't get, where a dominant powerful character would be in this scenario. Walking by and quietly shaking his head?

Personally I'm not exactly keen on brainless sluts, at least I wouldn't like them as protagonists. I can seen some scenarios with bimbo fuckdolls, that could be appealing, like a trophy wife becoming her evil queen daughter's sex slave after the death of her husband, but otherwise, I prefer intelligent characters. I don't mind playing as the villain on the other hand, at least if that villain is taller than his mother and not a teenage loser. But whether the MC is good or evil, to me straight porn visually never has the same effect as lesbian porn.

 

[Vuulgar]

Its as simple as not viewing the character as yourself but more the star of a movie the player is somewhat directing.

 

[Sphere42]

Do you see gangbangs as a degradation of the female character or of the male characters? I guess it is somehow degrading to both and I don't get, where a dominant powerful character would be in this scenario. Walking by and quietly shaking his head?

It can be done both ways. A powerful dominant male tends to be far more common especially in Japanese productions and your quip is not that far off: basically the villain/"alpha" lets their (yes, sometimes it's a female, or a genderless monster!) minions have their way with a woman, and they will usually have the biggest, most impressive equipment to "put on the finishing touches". If they're only ordering the rape by minions I would not consider them a participant in the actual gangbang.

Rarer and more likely to be played for pure titillation or even comedy is the genuinely dominant female who has the stamina to drain all her male partners. Can also be an evil succubus or even a "righteous warrior" depending on the setting. Multiple teens/kids vs. the main slut probably is the most common form where the power dynamic is explicitly mentioned.

Based on Catapo's first point I presume he was thinking more of the first version: him as the player being the "dominant" remote-controlling the female protagonist into group sex with NPCs.