Corambis

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After a few of these epic nights they both decide to have Max join them every time Kate is visiting, even seeking him out by knocking on the wall or tracking him down to ASK him to join them.
I agree with your entire post. Even though I'm not a huge Kate fan, I'd love for her to show up while Alice is out sometime. She could be dressed incredibly girly, and there to beg Max to treat her like a girlfriend, but keep it as a secret from Alice.
 
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The game needed more family members, although I think it's too late to introduce them now. It needed maybe another sister, and a cousin or two. Maybe a half-sister or two from the deadbeat father that show up looking for him. Then the opportunity for more content is there without rushing us towards the end. But with Ann, Alice, and Lisa really being the main focus of the game, there's only so much that can be done that isn't repetitive, or doesn't jump ahead too much.
The problem is not the number of family/relatives characters in the game. The problem is how they are being portrayed and implemented into the game. This is partly because the writing in BB is not that great which results in inconsistencies of the characters. This then ends up with the sex scenes feeling forced and not the result of Max's hard work.

Just have a look at the 4 main characters:
1. Kira started with Max because she's a porn star and she doesn't really care.
2. Alice completely hated Max, but suddenly ok with sucking his dick because Kate told her to (not counting the drunk after clubbing where she isn't being herself), and then even ok having sex while being recorded!
3. Lisa started with "ewwww it's a dick, grosss" kind of character and suddenly yeah let's suck yo dick and threesome with Olivia because suddenly she's super horny girl
4. Ann gave pity handjob because carpal tunnel lol

None of those have any build up whatsoever. It's kind of like a switch and suddenly "OK". Then now suddenly Lisa wants romance, it's really backwards. The sex scenes are there, but the backstories are not. That's why things felt repetitive, because they lack context.

More content for Kate or Olivia isn't the option. At least for me. Maybe in a non-incest game I could enjoy those characters. But in this game, they feel like going to the steakhouse and somehow ending up with chicken. Maybe it's really great chicken, but there are more interesting options on the menu, and it's not why you came there. It just ends up feeling like a missed opportunity.
More content for Kate or Olivia doesn't mean that they would be the main focus of the game. Just because you're going to a steakhouse, it doesn't mean you are only going to eat steak. You can still eat side dishes that are not steak. You can still have drinks. You don't just go there and eat a piece of beef, and they don't only sell steak either.
 

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None of those have any build up whatsoever. It's kind of like a switch and suddenly "OK". Then now suddenly Lisa wants romance, it's really backwards.
Lisa always wanted something like this, it may have been a bit unclear, but that's why her education started with hand- and blowjobs and went on to anal, because she wanted to preserve her virginity for her boyfriend. or at least something special and not just a fit of lust.
For Ann it's different, she gets the two for one deal with helping out her son and protecting her daughters from his ever present hard-ons all the time. She's pictured as the most mature, but also most naive of the girls. If she'd only knew ... x'D
 
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I can't agree with you @Skylaroo.

You complain about the 'inconsistencies of characters' in a porn game with focus on incest? Sorry, but you seem to look for some sort of realism that you will never find in a porn game in my opinion.
 
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You may have something against NTR (in this game). Regardless, this game is in its decline. Mediocre story/text quality, sparse new content. Milking patrons.
 

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The problem is not the number of family/relatives characters in the game. The problem is how they are being portrayed and implemented into the game. This is partly because the writing in BB is not that great which results in inconsistencies of the characters. This then ends up with the sex scenes feeling forced and not the result of Max's hard work.

Just have a look at the 4 main characters:
1. Kira started with Max because she's a porn star and she doesn't really care.
2. Alice completely hated Max, but suddenly ok with sucking his dick because Kate told her to (not counting the drunk after clubbing where she isn't being herself), and then even ok having sex while being recorded!
3. Lisa started with "ewwww it's a dick, grosss" kind of character and suddenly yeah let's suck yo dick and threesome with Olivia because suddenly she's super horny girl
4. Ann gave pity handjob because carpal tunnel lol

None of those have any build up whatsoever. It's kind of like a switch and suddenly "OK". Then now suddenly Lisa wants romance, it's really backwards. The sex scenes are there, but the backstories are not. That's why things felt repetitive, because they lack context.


More content for Kate or Olivia doesn't mean that they would be the main focus of the game. Just because you're going to a steakhouse, it doesn't mean you are only going to eat steak. You can still eat side dishes that are not steak. You can still have drinks. You don't just go there and eat a piece of beef, and they don't only sell steak either.

Wow you missed everything about this game.
Yes you do actually win them over.
Alice is finally won over by helping her with her blog. You get her true feelings for Max if you get the candies before Kira shows up and do the Friday night Saturday morning scene.
This is only her outward persona and if you watch each pic you can pick up on her secret love for all her family. Typical big sister attitude is how she is portrayed. A lot of the passion is lost in translation but there are a lot of hints to this. The very first time you get to spank Alice when you catch her smoking and you chose the right response she thinks its a complement and if she hated Max this would not happen.


Now for Lisa it took me a long time to figure out, she is secretly in love with Max and if you play through the "You need to fight for him" path and if the english translation from russian would have brought the passion over you can see it.
There is still a lot of hints to this in the english game and if you look for them you will see them.
One of the first major tell tell is when aunt came in the first time for training, the next day she tells Max that Lisa got wet very fast and this is not normal for one who does not want it. The first major tell for this is when they both got off while Lisa was watching porn on her phone, she open up to Max at that time and showed her true feelings for him.
Go back to the opening story, what teenage girl who is offered her own bedroom turns it down to sleep in the same room her brother is in, this is the first hint from Lisa.
There are so many hints from the beginning of the story and through out the game.
"When there was a problem she would run to Max" "what teenage girl would turn down her own bedroom to sleep in the same room as her brother."
In v8 DS seems to be trying to change this but we will have to wait and see, I hope not.

Aunt Kari, she just wants to fuck and as long as it is mutual then she's all for it, but she still cares for Max in her own way. V8 I am not for sure what DS is trying to do now with aunt Kira so we will have to wait on v9 to see what happens.

As of 7.3 mom is a lost cause because of the rape and torture when she was a young girl and she secretly wants to be dominated because of it. Her story may get fleshed out in more updates but she is who she is as of now.
And just as any momma bear she will do anything and everything for her cubs/kids.
Ann in v8 has came a little out of her shell but very little has change so far.

There is so much more to this game if only you would look for it in the face pic's of all NPC's and learn to read what each one is trying to say to you.
 

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None of those have any build up whatsoever. It's kind of like a switch and suddenly "OK". Then now suddenly Lisa wants romance, it's really backwards. The sex scenes are there, but the backstories are not. That's why things felt repetitive, because they lack context.
Yeah ~yeah~~and...
You forget to say something about clothes.
They always wear the same.
We can't even sure that they do have a washing machine.
Maybe they only have a pair of underwear ,and that's why Lisa and Alice crisply agree not to wear panties.
(Lisa:Ewwww~grosss ,can't stand for the stinky panties:confounded:)
(Alice: Eric has bought me a lot of panties ,but i can't wear them without his accompanying::|:)
(Olivia:Smart me:eek:penedeyewink:)
The food...yeah...they eat one kind of food.
When girls start sucking dick & swallowing billions of little Max..... it doesn't surprise me.
They all are tired of eating same meals ,and ... it's human nature meat sticks & jellies become popular among girls.XD
 

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I really feel sorry for all the players who want a save game with every thing unlocked, they miss out on a whole lot of great content in v8.:'(
 
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I kinda feel like by v1.0 all the stories will be wrapped up (Eric, Olivia, and maybe Kate) leaving room for a BB - Expanded edition with more scenes and general filling of gaps and inconsistencies.

As of late I keep wondering where Kira or Olivia start pushing to go full naturalist it just seems like a opportunity that is being missed.
 

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I kinda feel like by v1.0 all the stories will be wrapped up (Eric, Olivia, and maybe Kate) leaving room for a BB - Expanded edition with more scenes and general filling of gaps and inconsistencies.

As of late I keep wondering where Kira or Olivia start pushing to go full naturalist it just seems like a opportunity that is being missed.
DS him self told that 1.0 wont be the end of it, will be something big, but far from end. scroll back one of his 1st posts he made
 
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So what's your explanation for that one who, as you say, "don't get it", is the most successful one in the genre (successful as in monetary support on patreon).
It was one of the first to get noticed.

If this released now it wouldn't be anywhere near as popular as it is.

Just look around this site at which patreons are making the most money, they aren't all making the best games they were just around when it started taking off.

They got lucky.
 
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Yup, found this already.
80% do not like it, but yet that are like 4 millions views of the forum and over 16000 comments on this thread (about 3 times more than the next highest), not to mention the OTHER FOUR THREADS about this game, so this game is no doubt the biggest game on F95zone in terms of interest.

An example post: "This game does grind my gears a good bit. But it is still one of the best adult games I have played. There are instant gratification games galore, but games like this one are few and far between."

I do commend you for coming here to get more negative feedback than you get from your patreons. I am sure you have patreons on this board too.
 
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isn't there some patch or something to update game from 0.7 to 0.8 I don't want to download 1 gb for each update.
 

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isn't there some patch or something to update game from 0.7 to 0.8 I don't want to download 1 gb for each update.
nope haven't seen any update only full game each time. beside got plenty sources with mega or nopy its pretty fast.

beside 1gb is nothing could be worst like DoD got 5.7 gb :) but there they got patch only.
 

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Maybe it's just me, but I'd say it's more like manipulation than blackmail and coercion.


Do you have the pictures with text? I know I saw the scene in my Olivia playthrough, but I can't remember what it was about.

@a1fox3 Do you know something about it since you normally know everything? :D
I got the whole set of pics of it. Is this what you are looking for?
1.jpg 2.jpg 3.jpg 4.jpg 5.jpg 6.jpg
 
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