Gomly1980

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I take your point. Not talking about physical appearance, what in your mind makes Saughter more engaging than Elena and Georgina and what would you do to bring their characters more up to speed?
If I was going to pick one of them for personal preference it would Georgina.

I like a woman that's lived a bit and knows what she wants out of life. If it was just the sex side of things then Elena would be first. She's forward and I reckon would be up for experimenting a bit.

I follow the game because I do like the story behind it and the characters but the daughter is far too inexperienced and naive for my personal tastes. I've got a high sex drive and don't have the patience to be a teacher in that regard.

That's the generalising I mentioned though, not all of us here are here for the daughter. Granted that's the game so that's what we follow but if given the choice i'd take Georgina.

You also see sex in a very romantic way but some of us are a bit more, I guess primal would be the easiest way to say it.

I don't like how you view Elena as slutty and calling it a crutch. Some people just like sex, that isn't a weakness to be overcome, it's just how some people are.
 
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Hi, I hope someone can help me. I've just installed the game + patch + extra content and when i start the game after a few dialogue the game crash and display this error
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Sorry for the off-topic, but would you mind sharing a few titles then? Preferably VN that also have a Mac-version :angel:

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If you want something that specific go to and search for a VN you might like. has downloads of Japanese VNs that have been translated to English, you can go there to see if they have Mac versions. They also have a forum where people can help you. The last Japanese VN i played was Funbag Fantasy but I don't know if there's a Mac version yet.
 

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If I was going to pick one of them for personal preference it would Georgina.

I like a woman that's lived a bit and knows what she wants out of life. If it was just the sex side of things then Elena would be first. She's forward and I reckon would be up for experimenting a bit.

I follow the game because I do like the story behind it and the characters but the daughter is far too inexperienced and naive for my personal tastes. I've got a high sex drive and don't have the patience to be a teacher in that regard.

That's the generalising I mentioned though, not all of us here are here for the daughter. Granted that's the game so that's what we follow but if given the choice i'd take Georgina.

You also see sex in a very romantic way but some of us are a bit more, I guess primal would be the easiest way to say it.

I don't like how you view Elena as slutty and calling it a crutch. Some people just like sex, that isn't a weakness to be overcome, it's just how some people are.
Good points.

Must admit, between May and now, Elena has become more interesting. Not just because they've almost slept together (I'd might like you better if we slept together. - Romeo Void). But we know about her relationship with her father and we start to see the sexual control dynamics begin to be slowly played between her and MC. I'd like to see that continue. She also has other issues hinted at by the Riccardo sex scene. Does she walk from a relationship that is not sexually satisfying out of the gate? If so, why? Maybe sex is a joy and not a crutch - but there are some indications she has trouble with an intimate relationship. Sex is easy; being vulnerable and intimate without sex is hard. It would certainly be something that would add tension and drama to whatever F/Elena - F/D/Elena - D/Elena matchups are expected in the future.

I also like the more engaged Elena - "let me show D porn" - and hopefully, "D, let's take a shower together" (hinted at for Day 12). Elena has the possibility to move D along sexually faster than MC alone. Therefore, Elena is my new best friend.

As for Georgina, I totally agree, but hope that she can be developed better. I would not call the model industry the most sexually conservative industry. I could see, if Georgina did modeling work before the story began (which must be the case since she cites herself as knowledgeable enough to show D the ropes)... that Georgina has had sexual partners from the industry (other models, a photographer, etc). A shoot in the Bahamas, bunch of models relaxing after a long production day at beach locations, alcohol - Georgina could likely have those experiences along with the boyfriends at home attracted to her: the bassist from a local rock band; a local business owner who liked her after using her in a print ad.

I'd like to see both Elena and Georgina developed more so there is less comments like "this game is really great because of Daughter, but really wish I didn't have to deal with Georgina (or Elena)". I'd rather see: "I want to play all paths because they are all great in their own way."
 

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...You also see sex in a very romantic way but some of us are a bit more, I guess primal would be the easiest way to say it.
I'd say we could divide DMD players into two main groups, one formed by those who enjoy the slow build up of father/daughter relationship and get a lot of pleasure with each step taken, and another group whose members want more than anything in the game all sexual variations foreseen for the finished game. Not that one group is better than the other, these are just two different approaches.

I don't like how you view Elena as slutty and calling it a crutch. Some people just like sex, that isn't a weakness to be overcome, it's just how some people are.
Sex is just a part of life. But it is a very intimate feature of one's life. When someone is ready to involve just about anyone in such a private and intimate part of his/her life, like Elena, it is a sign of some psychological issue. It could indeed be a crutch to help him/her dealing with it.
 
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It is a very intimate feature of one's life. When someone is ready to involve just about anyone in such a private and intimate part of his/her life, like Elena, it is a sign of some psychological issue. It could indeed be a crutch to help him/her dealing with it.
That's a very narrow way of looking at it.

Not everyone views it as something personal and intimate, some people just do it for enjoyment not for emotional connection.

It's not a psychological issue it's simply enjoyment.

There was a time when sex was a very open thing in some places. Orgies were common place and people just enjoyed pleasure.

Looking at someone who just enjoys sex as having psychological issues is, quite frankly, insulting and I do wish people would stop projecting their narrow view of things on everyone else. Not everyone shares your sentiment.
 

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That's a very narrow way of looking at it.

Not everyone views it as something personal and intimate, some people just do it for enjoyment not for emotional connection.

It's not a psychological issue it's simply enjoyment.

There was a time when sex was a very open thing in some places. Orgies were common place and people just enjoyed pleasure.

Looking at someone who just enjoys sex as having psychological issues is, quite frankly, insulting and I do wish people would stop projecting their narrow view of things on everyone else. Not everyone shares your sentiment.
Take sex and crutch out of the conversation, because I see your view. I've myself have been in long term relationships with a small number of ladies (currently in a one now over 10 years). Each has had various comfort or liking do different things physically. I totally find those with no issues with sex to be by far the most enjoyable to have sex with - hands down. But I have only been with one lady that I could say fit that bill in totality. She did not have any issues.

Of course, perhaps it is me and not them.

As the story currently stands, I think both Elena and Georgina see sex for the most part as simply enjoyment. My issue is then how do we explore their differences about sex beyond that. Georgina appears to be open and experienced, but has no signs of a current or recent boyfriend, and has had her eye on MC for some time. Elena came on vacation, hooked up with Lukas - and (in Daughter only path) - hooked up with Ricardo.

What's the difference between the two that can be drawn out into and entertaining storyline for those characters. I'd rather it not just be Georgina is older and more interspective about who she dates and Elena is younger and is not to that stage...but maybe it's as simple as that.
 

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I'd say we could divide DMD players into two main groups, one formed by those who enjoy the slow build up of father/daughter relationship and get a lot of pleasure with each step taken, and another group whose members want more than anything in the game all sexual variations foreseen for the finished game. Not that one group is better than the other, these are just two different approaches.


Sex is just a part of life. But it is a very intimate feature of one's life. When someone is ready to involve just about anyone in such a private and intimate part of his/her life, like Elena, it is a sign of some psychological issue. It could indeed be a crutch to help him/her dealing with it.
Regarding two groups, Lol, I'll bet you most of the patrons are a combination of both - they are enjoying the slow build but are banking on D eventually encompassing everything on the game overview's fetish list plus more.

Take Aitan who is one of the writers, who said back in May: "Many people don't like the idea of "sharing" their little angel - so to say. Personally, I'd like to include that possibility too in the game (keeping it optional, obviously), and we are currently developing the story so that it might become a viable path in the future."

I'm all for all variations with D. AND - I would like to see it unfold in such a way that there ultimately are no psychological issues with her doing so. (Getting there via a "broken spirit" method seems just wrong). Gomly1980 has a point that way - though it does seem she will have to shed a few inhibitions in the process.

Me personally, I would like to see a MC/D pregnancy and a MC/D/Rachael threesome.
 
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I'm all for all options that could possibly be open within reason, I wouldn't want them to go down any dark paths, i'm not sure that would work here with how much care has been put into the characters and how attached people are getting.

While I would like to see the daughter open up a lot more, personality and emotionally not legs, I wouldn't want her broken. I don't think that would work here.

Sharing, i'm thinking that's going to be an option at some point for those that want it. I know that's not for everyone though.
 

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I'm all for all options that could possibly be open within reason, I wouldn't want them to go down any dark paths, i'm not sure that would work here with how much care has been put into the characters and how attached people are getting.

While I would like to see the daughter open up a lot more, personality and emotionally not legs, I wouldn't want her broken. I don't think that would work here.

Sharing, i'm thinking that's going to be an option at some point for those that want it. I know that's not for everyone though.
I do think that a little "breaking in" of Rachael might be warranted, if the story even goes that route. A little dark but also has a slight revenge justice to it.
 

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... some people just do it for enjoyment not for emotional connection. It's not a psychological issue it's simply enjoyment.
That's what I could call a very narrow way of looking at it...

Looking at someone who just enjoys sex as having psychological issues is, quite frankly, insulting and I do wish people would stop projecting their narrow view of things on everyone else. Not everyone shares your sentiment.
Different people have different opinions. I can live with that. Back on topic, Elena definitely is a girl with psychological issues.
 

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I do think that a little "breaking in" of Rachael might be warranted, if the story even goes that route. A little dark but also has a slight revenge justice to it.
Only breaking in I wanna do is the Daughters tight virgin snatch.
 

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Regarding two groups, Lol, I'll bet you most of the patrons are a combination of both - they are enjoying the slow build but are banking on D eventually encompassing everything on the game overview's fetish list plus more.

...Me personally, I would like to see a MC/D pregnancy and a MC/D/Rachael threesome.
I've read many many posts of DMD players, patreons and non patreons and we can roughly divide them into those two groups. They're similar to AIF players that could also be divided into two groups: One likes huge air-bags like breasts, the slutest the girl the better, and they don't care too much about the story. The other group prefers normal size breasts, the story is very important for them, and they prefer romantic, sweet main female characters.

Personally I don't want to share my daughter in DMD, and I prefer a path where there is only MC and D together, no threesomes. The only fetishes involving D I would enjoy would be groping, anal, and pregnancy.
But maybe I would play the game again in order to try a different path which would involve Olivia or Jennifer the only other females I feel some attraction to. Olivia because of her looks (her tanned skin and medium breasts are more my kind of lady) and Jennifer because she's sweet and pure.
 

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From my point of view, it would be completely out of character for the daughter. She struggles to deal with a male/female sexual attraction with a guy she trusts a lot. Then, suddenly she gets sexually involved with a woman she met a couple of days earlier... nonsense...
Umm, what? The D learning to like, admire and trust Georgina, is a far cry from getting sexually involved with her in a single update. The idea is to lay the groundwork for the D and Georgina's relationship to deepen and blossom into something more *eventually*.

You do know there is such a thing as "back story" asnd "build up" with storytelling right? Not everyone thinks in terms of "what's going to happen in *this* episode only!! I could GAF about what's 2-3 episodes down the line." Some of us actually understand storytelling a bit and how you set things up to happen later...
 
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Visuals are more about lighting and realistic graphics than detail. That first impression trumps all else.

Dreams of Desire may well have better artwork. But I prefer the brighter lighting of DMD. Also the story and characters of DoD are meh. The magnificient D is the "magic" magnet that so attracts so many.
What? Really? Have you done a side-by-side comparison with both games? DMD is pretty much over-saturated by light. Where are there ever shadows that shows where the sun is coming from if they are outside? Or the different light sources if they are inside? Unless the dad lives in an apartment that has every single light on inside 100% of the time, the scenes are generally way too 'bright', and the skin textures are no where near the same.

I like both games, but let's not get into a pissing contest between the two of them. They are both great in their own ways (minus Elana, ugh) so let's just enjoy both.
 

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Umm, what? The D learning to like, admire and trust Georgina, is a far cry from getting sexually involved with her in a single update. The idea is to lay the groundwork for the D and Georgina's relationship to deepen and blossom into something more *eventually*.
I understood it as if it was supposed to happen with Georgina making sexual advances towards D during the photoshoot and D accepting it. Using a step by step approach, almost anything is possible.
 
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Jennifer is my least favorite girl. She's somewhere between the D and Elena in adventurousness, but other than that, she just seems like a device to allow us to watch Elena lez it up. I'd gladly trade every Jennifer scene for more Olivia, Georgina, and Elena, even if we don't get any more D scenes out of it. I guess the best purpose she serves has been to keep Elena busy while the D and MC gallivant around fondling each other and having wardrobe malfunctions in various locations.
 

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I do think that a little "breaking in" of Rachael might be warranted, if the story even goes that route. A little dark but also has a slight revenge justice to it.
Rachel? Is that what you named the daughter, often referred to in this thread as simply D?
 
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