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On the subject of the recurring events in this game…
You know how these games tend to play like the movie Groundhog Day? Same things happen every day but each day there is (maybe) some progress toward new or different things happening. In most of these games there are events that rarely or never change and they stop making any sense at all. You get to the point where MC is sodomizing his sister every evening while she does dishes and she's sleeping fully naked in their shared bedroom, yet every morning she's still getting mad at him for walking into the room while she's changing clothes. Muh immersion!

Allow me to heap some praise on Faerin for showing more diligence than most other devs to avoid that. In many cases it only takes a slight change to the dialog to show that character relationships have evolved. For example, the breakfast conversation with Ashley goes from "You look lovely" to "pretty" to "beautiful" to "hot" and finally "Damn you look sexy!" Most of us are going to be in a hurry to click through a conversation that we think we've seen a hundred times already. It didn't go unnoticed by me that the conversation changes. Nice work.
 

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How do I unlock the option to buy lingerie? Also there were some talks regarding the HJ in the past, is it finally in the game? I see there are screenshots but I dont seem to be able to unlock anything myself.

I have reached 5 stars and 55 hearts with Ash (which is 68% apparently), 100% completion with mom and veronica is still at 35% even though I have reached "where do you get your money" stage. What am I missing guys? c:
The lingerie option and HJ come somewhere around 70-80 hearts (current maximum). Veronica gets a small alteration to her nighttime scene around 20 whips, IIRC, but there is nothing for getting her to 40 (current maximum) AFAIK.
 

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I voted the same. The mom has issues with how her mouth moves. It opens and closes (like a fish) but the corners never move back like a normal smile when she tries to smile. It's as if she either has had bad plastic surgery or too much botox and her cheek muscles no longer work to pull the corners of her mouth toward her ears like a normal smile.
 
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Ozygator

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On the subject of the recurring events in this game…
You know how these games tend to play like the movie Groundhog Day? Same things happen every day but each day there is (maybe) some progress toward new or different things happening. In most of these games there are events that rarely or never change and they stop making any sense at all. You get to the point where MC is sodomizing his sister every evening while she does dishes and she's sleeping fully naked in their shared bedroom, yet every morning she's still getting mad at him for walking into the room while she's changing clothes. Muh immersion!

Allow me to heap some praise on Faerin for showing more diligence than most other devs to avoid that. In many cases it only takes a slight change to the dialog to show that character relationships have evolved. For example, the breakfast conversation with Ashley goes from "You look lovely" to "pretty" to "beautiful" to "hot" and finally "Damn you look sexy!" Most of us are going to be in a hurry to click through a conversation that we think we've seen a hundred times already. It didn't go unnoticed by me that the conversation changes. Nice work.
This is extremely rare to see occur as it should, and like you mentioned its glaring when it occurs in poor quuality games because it shows a lack of attention to detail from the dev. It's not as if this would be hard to do for them either; 1) figure how many "stages" of affection there are, 2) add your variable to the conversation check to see what stage you're at, 3) load the pre-selected response.

I could see if there needed to be dozens of new renders for this to occur how it might be lacking, but again that goes back to how the dev pays attention to detail. When rendering the initial set of images for a re-occuring scene, again figure out how many stages there are and render them all at once.

Paying attention to the details is what makes me sub to them on Patreon or not. If they can't be bothered then I can't be either. *shrugs*
 
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This is extremely rare to see occur as it should, and like you mentioned its glaring when it occurs in poor quuality games because it shows a lack of attention to detail from the dev. It's not as if this would be hard to do for them either; 1) figure how many "stages" of affection there are, 2) add your variable to the conversation check to see what stage you're at, 3) load the pre-selected response.

I could see if there needed to be dozens of new renders for this to occur how it might be lacking, but again that goes back to how the dev pays attention to detail. When rendering the initial set of images for a re-occuring scene, again figure out how many stages there are and render them all at once.

Paying attention to the details is what makes me sub to them on Patreon or not. If they can't be bothered then I can't be either. *shrugs*
I agree completely. Unfortunately the monthly patron model tends to cause a dev to spend each month working only on things that will be in the next update. Ain't got time to render the double vaginal penetration extension of the H scene that nobody will get to see until next February.
 
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Hey guys,

Seeing that there is so much debate about the dinner time, I decided to halt all new content creation and focus entirely on developing a "custom dinner time feature" for the new version!
I will even add an option to decide WHAT you are eating, so please vote for:
1. Chicken lasagna.
2. Pork stew.
3. Tomato soup.
4. Green veggie soup (note: this will just be the tomato soup with a green texture).

"Jokes" aside, thanks a lot for all the feedback and enthousiasm guys, I read all your posts and take (a lot of) notes ;)
I was hoping for fish tacos...
 
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@WBWB and @Ozygator : Thanks for the feedback, stuff like this is really helpful to me and I do agree with you guys and I do try to keep things as consistant as possible!

Boring technical stuff: That being said, it's not just that simple, because it adds another "layer" of variables to the game.
You can compare it with different outfits, once one of the girls wears a new skirt, she needs to wear it ALL events that can occur, exactly to prevent the inconsistancy that you guys mentioned. So it's more the challenge of keeping track of all the previous events and how new changes affect them. And since I plan on adding a lot of events (also cross-overs), adding an extra layer now, will mean doing al lot of stuff twice in the future, so for now I try to make smart(ish) decisions.
So yeah, technically not that hard, it just means doing a lot of stuff extra, with slightly different dialogs/renders.
But to me, these kinds of things are really important, because I hate it when lack of detail "breaks" the immersion.

About the "fish mouth", I've read that before and noticed the same, -> I'll try to fix her up a bit!
 
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Lotex

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Ashley is progressing pretty smooth at the moment, but it seems like I can't find the initial trigger for Veronica or go further. Can someone give me a hint about the first action you have to to progress her story or unlock new locations?
I only have the pizzeria, supermarket, store and home at the moment.
 
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Hey guys,

Seeing that there is so much debate about the dinner time, I decided to halt all new content creation and focus entirely on developing a "custom dinner time feature" for the new version!
I will even add an option to decide WHAT you are eating, so please vote for:
1. Chicken lasagna.
2. Pork stew.
3. Tomato soup.
4. Green veggie soup (note: this will just be the tomato soup with a green texture).

"Jokes" aside, thanks a lot for all the feedback and enthousiasm guys, I read all your posts and take (a lot of) notes ;)
I think I like this guy. ^_^
 
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kaya

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Ashley is progressing pretty smooth at the moment, but it seems like I can't find the initial trigger for Veronica or go further. Can someone give me a hint about the first action you have to to progress her story or unlock new locations?
I only have the pizzeria, supermarket, store and home at the moment.
For Veronica i did follow a guide on page 33 (cant post link sorry), to keep it short u have to use cofee machine at 12:00 then spy her at 23:00 and u should get a phone call while sleeping and go on from there.
I also unlocked the Casino after finding a flyer in the subway , but cant start any event there so far.
 
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andioo

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Ashley is progressing pretty smooth at the moment, but it seems like I can't find the initial trigger for Veronica or go further. Can someone give me a hint about the first action you have to to progress her story or unlock new locations?
I only have the pizzeria, supermarket, store and home at the moment.
Did u already took a coffee at 10am ? just started a new game, waited 2 hrs and it worked just fine. no conditions.
 

Lotex

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Did u already took a coffee at 10am ? just started a new game, waited 2 hrs and it worked just fine. no conditions.
Mhh, I think I spammed the coffee button enough to get at least 3 heart attacks by overdosing on caffein, but it never happened. I guess I'll try to specifically have a coffee at 10am, pass some time and get another one at 12 and see if something happens.
 
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