Ren'Py Dilemma of Devotion [Ch.2 Ep 3] [PulseHavenStudios]

[Daddy-S]

What's hand holding about the quest log telling you to continue a quest that is impossible? Its misleading and annoying, it shouldnt be telling me to do something I cannot. That is what is quite absurd it might be intentional but its very bad design, time wasting and annoying. The log LITTERALLY tells me to do X but X is impossible so you spend an hour wasting time and wondering why its bugged.

 

[Shikharisfree]

What's hand holding about the quest log telling you to continue a quest that is impossible? Its misleading and annoying, it shouldnt be telling me to do something I cannot. That is what is quite absurd it might be intentional but its very bad design, time wasting and annoying. The log LITTERALLY tells me to do X but X is impossible so you spend an hour wasting time and wondering why its bugged.

Alright how is it misleading?

Annoying I understand no problem , that's upto player preference.

How is it misleading? We make it clear by the vn / prologue part that scenes or content will not be accessible depending on corruption and loyalty levels.

Even in the last conversation before you enter sandbox , we give that indication that kiara or any others from mc's life won't appear if you are not loyal.

So how is that misleading?


Secondly , Cool I accept your judgement and analysis on it being bad design but sadly we decided to keep it this way so player can figure out some stuff as well rather than us pointing directions at everything.

It's not bugged , it's not misleading.

It's simply very easily hinted in the story roughly 3 times , it's not my fault if players choose to rush through it and miss that fact.

Trust me I get it , some players just wanna play , nut and leave and that's okay , All the power to you.

But if I'm going to spend nights staying up creating specfic renders and scenes based on corruption and affection levels then I want the players to do a little bit of research as well.

That's all.

 

[Ancient Devil]

you need play the main story , to play the main story you need to be loyal.

I hope that clears it.

Yeah , but I am loyal. I figured that my loyalty should be 100 for the event so it is. I was able to play kiara event too, but not this one. Initially thought it was bugged. But I take your words for it and believe it is not and if that is so, I can't figure out the reason for the same.

 

[ShinyDarkRai]

Yeah , but I am loyal. I figured that my loyalty should be 100 for the event so it is. I was able to play kiara event too, but not this one. Initially thought it was bugged. But I take your words for it and believe it is not and if that is so, I can't figure out the reason for the same.

What do you mean by this one? Lana quest? Lana quest cannot be progressed for now i guess i should add a hint seeing how heated the thread is getting over it.
Main quest should be done if you have 100 loyalty.

 

[Shikharisfree]

Yeah , but I am loyal. I figured that my loyalty should be 100 for the event so it is. I was able to play kiara event too, but not this one. Initially thought it was bugged. But I take your words for it and believe it is not and if that is so, I can't figure out the reason for the same.

we'll just update the quest description for more clarity , sorry for the confusion.

 

[youraccount69]

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[ktemanuel]

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[Daddy-S]

Alright how is it misleading?

Annoying I understand no problem , that's upto player preference.

How is it misleading? We make it clear by the vn / prologue part that scenes or content will not be accessible depending on corruption and loyalty levels.

Even in the last conversation before you enter sandbox , we give that indication that kiara or any others from mc's life won't appear if you are not loyal.

So how is that misleading?


Secondly , Cool I accept your judgement and analysis on it being bad design but sadly we decided to keep it this way so player can figure out some stuff as well rather than us pointing directions at everything.

It's not bugged , it's not misleading.

It's simply very easily hinted in the story roughly 3 times , it's not my fault if players choose to rush through it and miss that fact.

Trust me I get it , some players just wanna play , nut and leave and that's okay , All the power to you.

But if I'm going to spend nights staying up creating specfic renders and scenes based on corruption and affection levels then I want the players to do a little bit of research as well.

That's all.

I am not a nut and run player the sex is the least part of my concerns with vn's I am a story / charector player. I read every part and I still cant understand why you cant see my point. There are many people in this thread asking about bugs (yes yes not a bug) This is because the quest log says do x but you cannot do x. All you need to do is change "continue main story" too something like "continued in a future update" or when a quest is no longer possible ie you do not have 100 loyalty the quest is greyed out or something of the type so players know it cannot be completed. I literally spent aver an hour going through each day in a sandbox thats annoying as hell trying to find out if there was something I missed. The quest log tells me to answer the phone on sunday I cannot do it in this play through because I dont have 100% loyalty but the quest log is sitting there saying to do it. That IS misleading it dont matter about if you hinted at it or anything else why is it telling me to do the impossible?

I fully understood the loyalty angle but why does the quest log not reflect that and instead misleads me into thinking there is more I can do? Anyway I give up, but see how many have asked about this as if it is a bug and consider how many others came to the thread with the same question and found the answer without asking. Thanks for telling me your misleading quests are not misleading when as a player I am telling you it is and was and is the reason I have not come back to play the update.

 

[Shikharisfree]

I am not a nut and run player the sex is the least part of my concerns with vn's I am a story / charector player. I read every part and I still cant understand why you cant see my point. There are many people in this thread asking about bugs (yes yes not a bug) This is because the quest log says do x but you cannot do x. All you need to do is change "continue main story" too something like "continued in a future update" or when a quest is no longer possible ie you do not have 100 loyalty the quest is greyed out or something of the type so players know it cannot be completed. I literally spent aver an hour going through each day in a sandbox thats annoying as hell trying to find out if there was something I missed. The quest log tells me to answer the phone on sunday I cannot do it in this play through because I dont have 100% loyalty but the quest log is sitting there saying to do it. That IS misleading it dont matter about if you hinted at it or anything else why is it telling me to do the impossible?

I fully understood the loyalty angle but why does the quest log not reflect that and instead misleads me into thinking there is more I can do? Anyway I give up, but see how many have asked about this as if it is a bug and consider how many others came to the thread with the same question and found the answer without asking. Thanks for telling me your misleading quests are not misleading when as a player I am telling you it is and was and is the reason I have not come back to play the update.

Alright I understand it a little bit now , what you mean is with the continue main story you want us to include the fact that (must finish episode or something) in bracket.

Gotcha , will fix it .

However if this is what stops you from playing the game then thank you for playing , have a good day.

 

[metamorphMP]

Played the game today.
It's a decent game in general.

The whole loyalty thing kinda cracked me down for a while, but after reading explanations I get it.
So, it's either you ignore everybody and keep 100% loyalty and go further in main plot or go full corruption path and have fun with LIs, at least this is how I see it so far, might be wrong of course.

Don't wanna rant about sandbox elements, a lot of feedback already has been given. I can only tell what drove me crazy the most - getting every day to the god damn Uni (either classroom or stuff room)
I saw those arrows in my dreams after that.
I play sandbox games and don't have problems with it, but that was too much even for me.

Also it was mentioned that some quests in journal don't have full info, and you go for those quests through all this arrows
But apparently it's not available due to the wrong time of the day or whatever (like with Lana).

Also I agree with some of previous feedbacks about fast travel, magic fast travel can make life so much easier. At least to some major locations, like university, I mean you already have button "Go Home", would be really great to have button "Go to Uni". Oh, a man can dream)

Nevertheless, I had fun here and there, good luck with the game.

 

[Shikharisfree]

Played the game today.
It's a decent game in general.

The whole loyalty thing is kinda cracked me down for a while, but after reading explanations I get it.
So, it's either you ignore everybody and keep 100% loyalty and go further in main plot or go full corruption path and have fun with LIs, at least this is how I see it so far, might be wrong of course.

Don't wanna rant about sandbox elements, a lot of feedback already has been given. I can only tell what drove me crazy the most - getting every day to the god damn Uni (either classroom or stuff room)
I saw those arrows in my dreams after that.
I play sandbox games and don't have problems with it, but that was too much even for me.

Also it was mentioned that some quests in journal don't have full info, and you go for those quests through all this arrows
But apparently it's not available due to the wrong time of the day or whatever (like with Lana).

Also I agree with some of previous feedbacks about fast travel, magic fast travel can make life so much easier. At least to some major locations, like university, I mean you already have button "Go Home", would be really great to have button "Go to Uni". Oh, a man can dream)

Nevertheless, I had fun here and there, good luck with the game.

This actually made me laugh first of all thanks dude.

Okay so for the classes to uni thing , we're gonna include map button next update don't worry.

Secondly , uh which quests didn't have info? Could you please show or point out few?

I believe we gave quite clear instructions on what to do where , lana quest can't be done because it mentions keep playing the story which can only be done by loyalty 100 and therapy first session to be done.

Lastly , The go home button is one form of fast travel but I did not want to clog the screen with go uni , go other buttons and hence we'll just do the route of map button instead.

So what we'll do is , once you're outside the map view , that remains go home but if you're inside a structure then the button will change into "Map"

 

[PapaChulo]

I see a link for a patch but not what the patch is for, what is it for?

 

[TwinCities]

How to unlock gallery PATREON Version ? Public locked 80% scenes

 

[ChlenCulta]

Sorry... but couldn't keep silent about ..."BITUKA" Russian name!? (I haven't laughed so much in a long time). Its even not close to any of slavic names.. Maybe it's some kind of Indian name!? Or at least a common name among Africans!? But this is definitely a strange alien name for the Russian/or any other Slavs.
We even doesnt have female names start from B, besides: Bogdana and Bagryana(even this an old fashioned). Please.. rename poor character Choose from these, bro (if you read it Dev): "Anna/Anya, Angelika, Valeriya/Lera, Victoriya/Vica, Daria/Dasha, Tatiana/Tanya, Marina, Mila, Masha, Miroslava, Nika, Asya, Anastasiya/Nastya, Elena/Lena, Ekaterina/Katya, Irina/Ira.

And.. Muskaan - looks like a true native Indian........... yep.... (def NOT, absurd!).

And..and... then, sandbox-die clicking arrow - started

 

[NebulousShooter]

I am going to keep coming from time to time to bask in the satisfaction of people echoing what I've said even before it got published. Again and again and again, the simple things in life.

 

[anonymousguys]

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I am going to keep coming from time to time to bask in the satisfaction of people echoing what I've said even before it got published. Again and again and again, the simple things in life.

I'll join you sir this game still suck with no real content

 

[Shikharisfree]

I see a link for a patch but not what the patch is for, what is it for?

It's to fix a loop texting bug from olivia. happened sometimes during wake up at night.

 

[Shikharisfree]

How to unlock gallery PATREON Version ? Public locked 80% scenes

Ancient technique called paying.

 

[Shikharisfree]

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I am going to keep coming from time to time to bask in the satisfaction of people echoing what I've said even before it got published. Again and again and again, the simple things in life.

The reviewer is lying , Already have reported it and mods are looking into it as well much like an earlier fake review claiming it had ntr when it didn't.

Please check a reviewer's profile before accepting it as genuine , just a small note from a dev.

The game has added several time skip options other than bedroom.
Game has a go home button now
Game also has quest descriptions expanded as well.



If you still choose to be ignorant then I can't do much about that , have a good day and keep basking I guess.

 

[Shikharisfree]

I'll join you sir this game still suck with no real content

Thank you for playing.