mostwanted8

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I don't know where you got that information from or IF it's something Ocean himself confirmed, but I think you wrong about that. Even the story and the MC's incessant whining about her don't make it sound like Summer's Gone for good, so I'll only believe this if you can please quote Ocean where he said that, if not, I'll think of it as pure speculation and nothing more.
Mind you, I played one playthrough only not that recently and because of the whole atmosphere and Nika’s vibe I remembered she was dead.
Also a couple of posts later I said her death isn’t confirmed a 100% and other people added more stuff indicating thet her fate is indeed unknown.
He did get much better than he was in the first 2 Chs, but that still don't make him a likable character, not to me at least, and when I mentioned his over-the-top ridiculous attitude, I wanted to point out this very fact. It's like claiming a serial killer that talked nice to a few ppl and gave a few kids some sweets suddenly became a good person. It's ridiculous, AND our guy has had his fair share of dark thoughts and plans of revenge. Don't know if it's still in the game or not, it's been some time since I last played it, but in the 1st Ch he even threatens his teacher with her gun and acts like Vic's accident was something trivial, a pain in his ass. Excuse me for not being more sympathetic toward this self-made introverted lunatic, but I hate his type of ppl IRL too, so yeah, we have different takes on his character.

Let's just agree to disagree on this and see how future updates will impact his character development.
You’re talking about the old version Nika. If he stayed like that the players wouldn’t root for him, I said that myself in a older post of mine. His serial killer thoughts and moments including trying to shoot Marla aren’t in the game anymore.
 

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There's quite a lot of them, but we aren't allowed to discuss other games in this thread. Here and here is where you can get at least a few suggestions on this topic.

Back to our on-topic conversation, I'm not saying Ocean won't get his shit together and deliver us a masterpiece of a story, cuz, considering what a perfectionist and hard worker he is, that's exactly what I'm expecting him to do, I'm just saying that so far, the story's pretty disappointing and most of the MC's petty, petulant anger outbursts make him sound like a butthurt dork pissed for being a loser and blaming other ppl for his mistakes and stupidity. It's ridiculous.

Hearing him spout his hentai villain bullshit, you'd think the guy came home from WWII with some serious PTSD from all the disturbing shit he saw there, when in reality he's just an introverted idiot living in his own world who played too many PC games for his own good lol. The guy not being able to get a damn erection with all those attractive girls throwing themselves at him is hilarious, cuz I was 98% sure he couldn't get one before it was stated in the story, a thing that was pretty obvious, so except the top-notch visuals and female characters, there's not much worth praising so far, and I DO hope this will change in the next updates.
In many ways I agree with you. What seems strange to me most is that MC is a young guy suffering from impotence and doesn’t care about it. In his place, anyone would first go to the doctor to find out how to recover, especially since he is surrounded by so many beautiful girls. It seems that he is not interested in girls at all, he looks more like a gay man who is hiding behind the problem of impotence.
 

Niuul

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Didn't Ocean say after the curators? So once approved by Steam,there will still be time. If I was Ocean, Steam would have driven me to become Nika; I'd be having panic attack from every Steam notification at the point.
Yeah. Approved on Epic, working with GoG and still waiting on Steam. After approved on steam there would be a dev post about a release date.
 
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Old Man Al

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In many ways I agree with you. What seems strange to me most is that MC is a young guy suffering from impotence and doesn’t care about it. In his place, anyone would first go to the doctor to find out how to recover, especially since he is surrounded by so many beautiful girls. It seems that he is not interested in girls at all, he looks more like a gay man who is hiding behind the problem of impotence.
You should google impotence, Nika is not impotent. Either you didn't really pay attention or you lie to stir up shit again.
 

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There was an old game I suddenly remembered while thinking about this game with some similar points about healing from trauma.

Have you guys ever heard of or played the old Japanese visual novel, Kimi ga Nozomu Eien? It released back in 2001 and I do believe the title was localized as Rumbling Hearts or something. It was popular enough to have an anime adaption back then, which for that time wasn't as common as it is these days for JP VNs.

Without going too much into spoilers or too deep into it, it was basically about the protagonist in a relationship with a girl who gets into an accident and goes into a coma. He blames himself because, if I remember correctly, she got hit by a car or something while on a date with him.

She remains in that state for so very long that and the protagonist is left struggling to get through life and with depression, barely eats and his place is a complete mess. However, there is another girl who is his friend and does her very best to help him heal and get through it, takes care of him with everything she can, including feeding him often and cleaning up his place for him and being there for him emotionally.

Eventually, she helps him recover and get back to a normal life and he starts a relationship with her. And everything was going smoothly and well, until the girl in the coma suddenly regains consciousness and the protagonist is torn between the two girls:


The girl who helped him recover and heal, and did so much for him and spent so much of her own time devoting herself to help him, or the girl who wakes up confused in an older body many, many years later who he feels responsible for.



I sometimes wonder if Ocean is going to pull a cheap trick out of a hat and bring Summer back in some form in a later season, and if we're going to have our protagonist Nika in a similar situation. Torn between a girl he had loved (and maybe felt responsible for?) and the one who helped him on his journey to heal (whoever you chose as your main love interest).

Personally I hope Ocean keeps Summer out of this and that she truly is gone, though.
 
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AlexFXR

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You should google impotence, Nika is not impotent. Either you didn't really pay attention or you lie to stir up shit again.
I naively believed that you would now tell us your magnificent theory. But instead you just shit in the comments........It's disappointing.
 

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What you're telling me is that the protagonist is actually Rudeus....
LOL thanks for reminding about that horrible second season but holy shit you are so right both him and the Summer's Gone MC had ED cause of mental issues.
 
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Doomyk

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There was an old game I suddenly remembered while thinking about this game with some similar points about healing from trauma.

Have you guys ever heard of or played the old Japanese visual novel, Kimi ga Nozomu Eien? It released back in 2001 and I do believe the title was localized as Rumbling Hearts or something. It was popular enough to have an anime adaption back then, which for that time wasn't as common as it is these days for JP VNs.

Without going too much into spoilers or too deep into it, it was basically about the protagonist in a relationship with a girl who gets into an accident and goes into a coma. He blames himself because, if I remember correctly, she got hit by a car or something while on a date with him.

She remains in that state for so very long that and the protagonist is left struggling to get through life and with depression, barely eats and his place is a complete mess. However, there is another girl who is his friend and does her very best to help him heal and get through it, takes care of him with everything she can, including feeding him often and cleaning up his place for him and being there for him emotionally.

Eventually, she helps him recover and get back to a normal life and he starts a relationship with her. And everything was going smoothly and well, until the girl in the coma suddenly regains consciousness and the protagonist is torn between the two girls:


The girl who helped him recover and heal, and did so much for him and spent so much of her own time devoting herself to help him, or the girl who wakes up confused in an older body many, many years later who he feels responsible for.



I sometimes wonder if Ocean is going to pull a cheap trick out of a hat and bring Summer back in some form in a later season, and if we're going to have our protagonist Nika in a similar situation. Torn between a girl he had loved (and maybe felt responsible for?) and the one who helped him on his journey to heal (whoever you chose as your main love interest).

Personally I hope Ocean keeps Summer out of this and that she truly is gone, though.
An interesting theory, it may well be. Especially considering that Bella's path, there are hints that their story is not much different and as we learn in chapter 5, her sister is in a coma. However, I understand the dissatisfaction of many people with this character(Summer). If you look at the experience of other AVNs, the appearance of exes mainly brings a lot of negativity. They seem unnecessary, appear mostly out of nowhere and, as a rule, by this moment the public already has their favorites, so they are rare find interest. All this multiplies if it creates confusion with the feelings of the past MC (plot) vs the control of players who are not very interested in this, at least. Take for example AVN, which I recently played. Leap of faith (?). In some moment an ex appears there, with the storyline that she loves MC, but she has a husband who is very dangerous. In the eyes of the author, there is an interesting plot, the fight for the princess against some powerful guy, so many emotions, so much drama..... ..and this apparently did not find a response from the audience, since this character then disappears for a long time, and then there is some kind of ridiculous story about espionage and the fact that her marriage is a fiction. All this leaves some disappointment. Something similar could could very well happen to Leia's character from Wiab. There are hints that the love path storyline will be somewhat reminiscent of the ex from the mentioned Leap of faith. Then, I would say that Leia has a very high chance of falling from the throne of favorites.

However, everything said earlier contrasts sharply with SG. Here it is in name of Summer that the game is called, her story, her disappearance played a significant role on the MC, her shadow still weighs on him, her story runs parallel to the present and there is a considerable chance that her plot is woven into the main story of the future. And what will come of it, only time will tell.Summer has a difference from the simple *exes* other AVNs.
 
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