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Iexist

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Well, this game was a trip.

Also, not the worst translation I've ever seen in my life, but still pretty annoying to parse at various moments and who knows what might have been lost along the way...

Oh well... I doubt we're getting anything genuinely better at this point.

Does this game have any actual netorare though? Maybe in the IF multi-defeat endings? Because it sure has a lot of the other thing... what was it, netori? Or netorase? The one where the guy is into giving the girl to others to watch her get fucked? There's plenty of that, but no actual netorare.

Oh well, I'll look at those IF endings later. The game's so easy that I never lost any battles that weren't basically forced defeats anyway...

On a different note. The main thing that's been improved in this game compared to previous ones is the RPGM engine and the art... but aside from that, I don't feel like it beats Luxoria, which is the other game I tried from this dev to any large extent.

The whole "collect semen to make monsters" bit sure is nice in theory... except the monsters simply aren't that interesting, the permutations aren't particularly great... On top of that, the stat-up items work on the MC, so there's nothing stopping you from just screwing Middy over and over to collect semen, make stat-up items, turn MC into an invincible giga-chad that loses to nothing. Which allows you to keep the amount of other dick Middy gets, or whatever her name is supposed to be, to a minimum imposed by the game. Cuz y'know, unwinnable fight and unavoidable rape and stuff.

Now, I still made the MC into an invincible giga-chad, because it was funny to me... but I did it by spamming the brothel on one side and events with other girls on the other, which, once what'sherface gets slutty enough nets you 6-semen items per run, allowing you to collect the stuff very fast and make a ton of money for gear/consumables/whatever. Fighting and defeating the Aegis/God's Shield girl pretty much solo because the minions died early in the fight was hilarious. She could barely damage the MC with anything except her most powerful moves... and that's when counter wasn't up only, which just made her drop even faster.

Oh, another thing that was way too weak was the sex-magic stuff. Its effects are just too weak and take forever to ramp up... Even though it's hilarious to watch Middy get increasingly fucked stupid if you can keep stalling to keep fucking her. Honestly didn't see a point in using it at any point.

It's hilarious that for some reason, this game has three, THREE difficulties that are easier than the Normal one, and nothing harder, when the game is already ridiculously easy.

Lastly, the biggest crime that this game commits is that the blonde maid girl doesn't get fucked. Ever. I'm not gonna spoiler this one because people deserve to know in advance to not look forward to it. This is the truest NTR this game commits.
 

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I didn't need to farm specifically to defeat Aegis. I had a good combination of minions, an angel, big demon for taunt and taking dmg, healing mermaid, and nurse healing clothes. Furthermore, I rarely used the MC, because I was always fucking the girl constantly though the fights. I only needed to farm before the last boss in the lab and to get her naked. I see no point in minmaxing stuff and doing it solo with MC as it was less enjoyable to me. The fights felt engaging that way, even if nurse clothes provide an over the top amount of healing.
I finished all village and brothel scenes at the end when you can choose scenes. I still tried to see all scenes with monsters and their enhanced versions when her lewdness is high enough. I didn't hunt for bad endings with boss monsters, cuz I mainly enjoyed netorase.

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That scene does show up in the gallery actually. It's among Middy's scenes. The 8th counting from the left. Likely because it's a swapping scene and the scene that really cements the protagonist's netorase fetish. At least in my mind. Is this really that maid though? She has a different name, and I don't think that's a translation fuck-up? I thought this is the other blonde that briefly shows up at the inn when you go to meet with the maid, the one that the protagonist wonders if she's an acquaintance of said maid... The maid WAS looking into removing some unspecified curse from some unspecified person, and I honestly thought that this is it.... Unless the person that was cursed was herself, and "Aster" is basically "Aki" reincarnated and with amnesia...

Granted, hard to say how fucked the translation is on that side, so maybe someone that played in JP actually knows.

Anyway... why am I overthinking an extremely silly porn game anyway?!

My point above wasn't anywhere near about min-maxing, or that the way I did it was optimal. On the contrary, it's not optimal at all. The fact that you CAN do something as stupid as make the MC into a giga-chad and basically completely ignore the minions is just a way to show how flawed the game design is.

It's generally bad design when the player can so easily yolo and just ignore a main feature...
 

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My point above wasn't anywhere near about min-maxing, or that the way I did it was optimal. On the contrary, it's not optimal at all. The fact that you CAN do something as stupid as make the MC into a giga-chad and basically completely ignore the minions is just a way to show how flawed the game design is.

It's generally bad design when the player can so easily yolo and just ignore a main feature...
I don't think so. One of the marriage endings is quite vanilla, so it may be a way out for the vanilla folks.
And I think it's way harder to do than the normal way. You need to specifically choose to go this way, defying the main plot line. Sound like something that vanilla guys would like to struggle for.
 
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I don't think so. One of the marriage endings is quite vanilla, so it may be a way out for the vanilla folks.
And I think it's way harder to do than the normal way. You need to specifically choose to go this way, defying the main plot line. Sound like something that vanilla guys would like to struggle for.
I'm not gonna spoiler this, because vanilla peeps will likely want to know, but.

You can NOT reach the marriage ending at ALL without triggering several events where Middy fucks other people. The bandit rape one is the obvious one, and it's only after that one that item crafting unlocks anyway. After that, she fucks several villagers. After that, there's also that one mandatory brothel event. Pretty sure the zombie gang-rape is mandatory to unlock what's her face at the top of the mountain. Then you need to have the event where Nero fucks the blonde and the other guy fucks Middy. This unlocks the orgy with Fay. (It's not a threesome.) Only after all that does the marriage option open up at all, and then you have two choices no matter how lewd Middy is, at least, as far as I can tell.

At best, you can work at ensuring that MC's sex-count with Middy and so on is the highest, but that's the most you can do.

And even in the "vanilla" marriage ending, where the MC fucks her on their wedding night, he mentions enjoying seeing her get dicked by other men because of all the expressions she makes that she can't/won't make with him alone.

So. Uh. Yeah. Normal romance is literally impossible in this game. If someone wants that, they should try Luxoria, which does give that sort of option... even if it's pretty much insanely hard if you do it for a lot of reasons.
 
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I'm not gonna spoiler this, because vanilla peeps will likely want to know, but.

You can NOT reach the marriage ending at ALL without triggering several events where Middy fucks other people. The bandit rape one is the obvious one, and it's only after that one that item crafting unlocks anyway. After that, she fucks several villagers. After that, there's also that one mandatory brothel event. Pretty sure the zombie gang-rape is mandatory to unlock what's her face at the top of the mountain. Then you need to have the event where Nero fucks the blonde and the other guy fucks Middy. This unlocks the orgy with Fay. (It's not a threesome.) Only after all that does the marriage option open up at all, and then you have two choices no matter how lewd Middy is, at least, as far as I can tell.

At best, you can work at ensuring that MC's sex-count with Middy and so on is the highest, but that's the most you can do.

And even in the "vanilla" marriage ending, where the MC fucks her on their wedding night, he mentions enjoying seeing her get dicked by other men because of all the expressions she makes that she can't/won't make with him alone.

So. Uh. Yeah. Normal romance is literally impossible in this game. If someone wants that, they should try Luxoria, which does give that sort of option... even if it's pretty much insanely hard if you do it for a lot of reasons.
Yeah, not a pure vanilla, but It still may be targeted to a casual netorase fan who prefers to be more focused on the relationship with a heroine and don't like to see her be corrupted, or to be just slightly more lewd but still enjoy the sharing.
I for an example, really like uncommon flavors like bestiality, so I went into it to witness the alchemy in full glory.
 

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About the error:

TypeError
Cannot read property 'updateGamepadRelease' of null

I've found the solution, if you have any controller connected just remove it and it works. In my case I had one arcade and one xbox360 pad.
 

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what next after wedding end. The game said have secret boss and continue adventure? anything else
There's nothing. It's just random free play and H-scene collection, assuming you don't just unlock the gallery. There's no more story or anything after that.
 

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Does anyone know the monster combine recipe ? My results are all human :rolleyes::rolleyes:
I don't think anyone's bothered to check all the possible combinations, but, if I remember right, as a rule of thumb...

Monster+Monster semen tends to make the more monstrous results.

Monster+Human semen depends on the order and the monster and/or human type of semen.

Angel Essence, I think, always produces an angel type monster and the order only affects the types of skills that can be obtained aside from the default angel-type ones.

There's not that much variety anyway, so don't overthink it too much.
 
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I am currently in the second town, done some prostitution... feels empty somehow, the art is great, but feels like something is missing.
Maybe it is the protagonist not showing much interest in the girl and the girl not reacting to the protagonist when he watcher her fuck.

Are there "training/corruption" sequences like the Arms Crafterman in Luxoria where the girl almost gets stolen? Maybe this could fix the problem, because right now it feels like pimping and not NTS
 

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I am currently in the second town, done some prostitution... feels empty somehow, the art is great, but feels like something is missing.
Maybe it is the protagonist not showing much interest in the girl and the girl not reacting to the protagonist when he watcher her fuck.

Are there "training/corruption" sequences like the Arms Crafterman in Luxoria where the girl almost gets stolen? Maybe this could fix the problem, because right now it feels like pimping and not NTS
This is a remake of the Dev's second game, and at that point, from what I'm able to grasp, he wasn't as focused on the netorase/netorare theme as he got in latter games. As such, there's no real training sequences where what's her face is almost stolen. The most you get are some IF bad-endings where the protag and the girl lose too many times to certain bosses like the bandit boss.

From the netorare/netorase angle, this game is actually fairly mediocre.
 
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This is a remake of the Dev's second game, and at that point, from what I'm able to grasp, he wasn't as focused on the netorase/netorare theme as he got in latter games. As such, there's no real training sequences where what's her face is almost stolen. The most you get are some IF bad-endings where the protag and the girl lose too many times to certain bosses like the bandit boss.

From the netorare/netorase angle, this game is actually fairly mediocre.
Sad... It seems that I will never experience something like Ruins of Luxoria again...
 
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Sad... It seems that I will never experience something like Ruins of Luxoria again...
Hard to say. I don't know what the dev's new game is focused on. Didn't have the patience to dig that deep in their ci-en. It takes time to run posts through more than one MTL and figure out the gist of things... The most I know is that it will feature some guy who was a powerful adventurer that ends up losing most of said power because of some kind of incident, and three girls. The most I got is that the girls can get raped by monsters, but no real mentions of netorare/netorase.

Either way, dunno if there's any other game as good as Luxoria out there... There's that netorase recommendation thread floating around that you could check out.
 
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I am currently in the second town, done some prostitution... feels empty somehow, the art is great, but feels like something is missing.
Maybe it is the protagonist not showing much interest in the girl and the girl not reacting to the protagonist when he watcher her fuck.

Are there "training/corruption" sequences like the Arms Crafterman in Luxoria where the girl almost gets stolen? Maybe this could fix the problem, because right now it feels like pimping and not NTS
The scenes have a little tweak when her lewdness rises high enough. Also, she could be fucked by any guard when she doesn't wear any clothing (gated by lewdness requirement).

Stealing isn't Netorase thing, and never was. At most it can provide more thrill, by dancing on the edge of a complete loss which is Netorare domain. The sex also shouldn't have any romance between LI and others, just pure physical entertainment which this game provides plenty with monster sex, and combat sex. IMO, the combat sex provides more love connection regarding MC and LI than it was in Ruinss of Luxoria, where MC was only relegated to read her reactions, and after sex talk.

In RoL Netorare was also a side project, just the game was much bigger, and side routes were more fleshed out. The battles were an annoying obligation without any fireworks, tho.
 
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I am currently in the second town, done some prostitution... feels empty somehow, the art is great, but feels like something is missing.
Maybe it is the protagonist not showing much interest in the girl and the girl not reacting to the protagonist when he watcher her fuck.

Are there "training/corruption" sequences like the Arms Crafterman in Luxoria where the girl almost gets stolen? Maybe this could fix the problem, because right now it feels like pimping and not NTS
yeah I dropped this game relatively quickly, the feeling of NTR is not there at all. Amor magical academy and ruins of luxoria are both the GOAT mijishi games but everything since has felt really lacklustre
 
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