Ren'Py Shattered Minds [v0.11] [eXtasy Games]

[graverobber]

it's an objective and verificable fact. you can pass over this elements, if for you mean little, but they still remains.
before last update the "apparent" antagonist where the fed, but we see they aren't so fearsom as they were depicted



absolutely non relevant. a story is a story. without any antagonist or challenge to overcome the story will be plain, boring and uniteresting. the fact most porn game had terrible and idot story don't mean every porn game should, or wee need to stop to ask a better narrative.



tell me you don't know nothing about mind control (ing/ed) games without tell me you don't know nothing about mind control (ing/ed) games.

we don't do in a any compulsory way ava bidding. the MC isn't mind controlled to do anything. just what the player/mc want is what ava want for her masterplan. a crucial point in mind control game from the controlled part is doing thing against their will. you cannot turn around that point. it's an absolute requirement. and ava don't mind force the MC to do anything. she manipulate him using a fake sense trust she build with the MC.



because it's the only one with an idea about how the story will develope, other people can only speculate. and there isn't any switch, ava already take the control of the MC body once, you don't see anything she has done, but it's already happen, nor she mind control MC mind, you for real don't have any idea about this genere and its tropes.



a lot of words to said "my little ego is hurt because the MC isn't a uber power player without any chance to beign outplayed."
because that is what happen.

a lot of mind control game (i think is the majority) have the protagonist succumb external mind control power. they don't stop to cater the mind control kink because the MC isn't the one doing it. i hate them, but my personal taste mean nothing in a genere definition, or the fact some game belong to some genere or not.

the fact you cannot handle the fact it existthe danger to play under an antagonist mind control power it's your problem. it's can be done very well, one of the best mind control game of all time, lilith device, do that a couple of time.

"it's an objective and verificable fact"
your opinion dose not become a fact just because it's yours

"without any antagonist or challenge to overcome the story will be plain, boring and uniteresting"
again, thats your opinion, not a fact
an antagonist (regardless of severity) is not a necessary element in a porn game

"the fact most porn game had terrible and idot story don't mean every porn game should"
you are yet again confusing opinion & fact

"ask a better narrative"
look for better narratives somewhere other than porn games

"tell me you don't know nothing about mind control (ing/ed) games without tell me you don't know nothing about mind control (ing/ed) games."
1. your opinion
2. weak

"the MC isn't mind controlled to do anything"
ava uses literal supernatural mental powers to get the mc to do what she wants

"and ava don't mind force the MC to do anything"
1. she effectively has the ability to save scum by erasing memories untill she gets a desirable outcome
2. claiming that the moon is green dose not make it so

"she manipulate him"
1. yep and she uses supernatural mental powers to do so
2. manipulation is a form of control

"because it's the only one with an idea about how the story will develope, other people can only speculate."
this dose not explain why you trust him

"and there isn't any switch, ava already take the control of the MC body once"
i was not referring to control of the mcs body, but the switch from moving pieces around a hypothetical board to being a piece on said board

"nor she mind control MC mind"
?

"you for real don't have any idea about this genere and its tropes."
again opinion not fact

 

[kzk0987]

I think it's pretty fucking obvious the protagonist will turn the tables on Ava at some point. She's the antagonist.
And she was suspicious as hell since the beginning, I wasn't surprised by her turning on him, honestly.

 

[MrHatIsHere]

Your normal life is thrown out of whack after you realize you have the power to control the minds of others.
You will use this power to make all your dreams, desires and wishes come true!
A world with countless quests, figures, plots and locations are waiting to be discovered and controlled by you!​

I would recommend sticking to this. I play Doom games to have fun killing demons, not for moments where it is revealed to the player, but not the player character, that the player character is actually a crazy person killing innocent humans, and then go right back into a huge firefight. Even though the gameplay would still be the same, the immersive feel would be retroactively changed, and it would be pretty much impossible to shake going forward.

 

[troll822]

does this game require a walkthrough for the choices when interracting with each girl or character ??

That. Do our choices when talking to the girls matter? And if yes, is there a walkthrough or generic guide?
I.e. does being a dick leads to different (or blocked) content?

 

[Bronzescorpion]

That. Do our choices when talking to the girls matter? And if yes, is there a walkthrough or generic guide?
I.e. does being a dick leads to different (or blocked) content?

Mostly it can affect how much they are corrupted. You immediately get a notification if corruption has increased or decreased, so you can easily roll back. You won't be blocked from any content, but you may need to grind a little bit to bring the woman in question up to the required corruption level before you can proceed.

Take Sarah for example. Before her last quest, you would need her to be 80 in corruption. If you have picked all the right options prior, she will already be at that level. If you haven't done that, at the end of the penultimate quest, the MC will say that you need to increase her corruption a bit before advancing.

All in all, no guide or walkthrough is really needed, because the game is quite transparent.

 

[HongTeaPot]

Interesting game, but I have some questions:
1.would there be any new stories for those subdued girls?
2.would there be any differences in the story lines, for different personalities that MC choose for a subdued girl?
3.does pregnancy make any difference to the following story lines?

 

[Bronzescorpion]

Interesting game, but I have some questions:
1.would there be any new stories for those subdued girls?
2.would there be any differences in the story lines, for different personalities that MC choose for a subdued girl?
3.does pregnancy make any difference to the following story lines?

The dev has already answered those or similar questions on discord:

1) In general no. When a girl is subdued her story is mostly considered done, but there will be some exceptions. Eleanor will have a part in subduing her architect friend, Sofia will likely play a part in Cara's or have shared scenes with her afterwards. Both Sofia and Chloe likely will have some story since you live with them. Luna will have a part in the main story, due to her unique situation.

2) Properly not. I guess they can't be mindless during that time.

3) Likely not.

 

[comacchio]

In what world is around 2 months long? You seem to have no clue how long it takes to develop a game.

You are an example of one of those unreasonable players lipe was talking about.

I don't think it is unreasonable to say what I did. I was complimentary of the game and yes, I do realise that working on such an undertaking is long and arduous, but an update which more often than not lasts no longer than two or three scenes, adds almost nothing to the story. Waiting a bit longer (which is what I said I would be doing) to download say, 4 or 5 updates at one times give the player an opportunity to really get back into (and enjoy) the game.

 

[HongTeaPot]

The dev has already answered those or similar questions on discord:

1) In general no. When a girl is subdued her story is mostly considered done, but there will be some exceptions. Eleanor will have a part in subduing her architect friend, Sofia will likely play a part in Cara's or have shared scenes with her afterwards. Both Sofia and Chloe likely will have some story since you live with them. Luna will have a part in the main story, due to her unique situation.

2) Properly not. I guess they can't be mindless during that time.

3) Likely not.

 

[Bronzescorpion]

I don't think it is unreasonable to say what I did... but an update which more often than not lasts no longer than two or three scenes, adds almost nothing to the story.

If you straight up have to lie, I say it would fall into the category of being unreasonable.

Let's look at the updates:

0.11 included the entire Luna questlines and the second main quest
0.10 Added two Scarlett quests, each having multiple scenes
0.09 Scarlett quest, Sofia and Chloe quest with many interactions with them in different scenarios
0.08 Chloe quest and 2 Sarah quests
0.07 First main, Bill and Sofia quests

Where exactly did you pull out that "more often than not"

To be clear, I don't have a problem with people waiting, downloading and playing multiple updates in one go, instead of playing them as they come out. But there is no way you can say that the updates takes too long or are too short. Their size compared to their frequency is some of the best you will find on this site. You implying the opposite is something I take issue with.

 

[shamtiiomi]

If you straight up have to lie, I say it would fall into the category of being unreasonable.

Let's look at the updates:

0.11 included the entire Luna questlines and the second main quest
0.10 Added two Scarlett quests, each having multiple scenes
0.09 Scarlett quest, Sofia and Chloe quest with many interactions with them in different scenarios
0.08 Chloe quest and 2 Sarah quests
0.07 First main, Bill and Sofia quests

Where exactly did you pull out that "more often than not"

To be clear, I don't have a problem with people waiting, downloading and playing multiple updates in one go, instead of playing them as they come out. But there is no way you can say that the updates takes too long or are too short. Their size compared to their frequency is some of the best you will find on this site. You implying the opposite is something I take issue with.

lets be fair here ,the updates not matter the time for the development,are short,but is true that the dev work at nice speed to develop the game,im also wait 2 or 3 updates for a good amount of playtime, but after all depends who is playing and how...the pace is good and also the script,so for me no matter the lenght of the updates.

 

[Bronzescorpion]

lets be fair here ,the updates not matter the time for the development,are short,but is true that the dev work at nice speed to develop the game,im also wait 2 or 3 updates for a good amount of playtime, but after all depends who is playing and how...the pace is good and also the script,so for me no matter the lenght of the updates.

I don't agree that the updates are short. Compared to the other games I play here, they are either similar length or longer. One should also consider that there isn't really any busywork that artificially blow up the play time.

Take the last update, let's say for argument sake that each quest only takes 5 minutes, which is a somewhat low number, unless you are skipping dialogue and if that is the case, can you really complain? There are 5 quests in the update, 4 Luna and a main quest. That means you get 25 minutes out of the update. I wouldn't call that short in any way. Again it is mostly story and little grind. I stand by thinking people are unreasonable if they think this is on the low end. at least half an hour every two months is a good pace.

 

[harem.king]

If Ava was never apart of mc the medieval part in mc's mind made no sense and is a massive plot hole.

The reason given when mc was drug and can't use his powers, but Ava can made absolutely no sense. The only way it would make sense is if Ava taking over magically turns mc's body into hers, but it didn't. Others still see mc's body as mc mind controlled or not. And if Ava was that powerful she would never need mc to begin with. Why would she tell mc he is never getting his body back just to give it back instantly.

The reasons and explainations given by Ava does not make sense given her actions. If you had the key to you cell the entire time, why would you stay in that cell. Ava could of done everyting that mc did but better with less time and effort. We've know she was very powerful on the first day. It just bad writing.

Ava did not "give" the MC his body back, she lost control against her will. she said he is never getting it back because she believed he is never getting it back. but she was wrong.
Ava's cell is the MC. not whatever cell the MC found himself in. she just uses others to pressure the MC into "giving" her control.

I do agree that the fact Ava is immune to the power suppression drug does not make sense.

 

[thokai]

I do agree that the fact Ava is immune to the power suppression drug does not make sense.

In that case the author could get away with "the drug clouds the MC's mind and prevents him from focusing on his powers", that might give the option for Ava to not be effected since she is more or less part of the MC's subconsciousness.

 

[Fulminato]

I do agree that the fact Ava is immune to the power suppression drug does not make sense.

In that case the author could get away with "the drug clouds the MC's mind and prevents him from focusing on his powers", that might give the option for Ava to not be effected since she is more or less part of the MC's subconsciousness.

when ava take control the body seem be "morphed" in hers. it's a strange details, but it's imply when ava take control the body change to a degree. making her body immune.

i think ava a parassite of some sort. so a entity totally indipendent from the MC forced inabith his brain. and because it's a totally different entity the drug blocking MC power may don't works with her.

 

[false999]

Luna's awesome, can't believe that she's a character that I'll like over Scarlett... and she's close second to Sarah

 

[Chrathrard]

My hopes were rising that this game was going somewhere, but then I hit the, "Uh-oh! Belly too big, no more touch! " lazy content ending, and then their pregnancies suddenly disappeared with a wave of the magical, Disney princess wand, and my MC's love children were literally deleted from existence.

 

[harem.king]

My hopes were rising that this game was going somewhere, but then I hit the, "Uh-oh! Belly too big, no more touch! " lazy content ending, and then their pregnancies suddenly disappeared with a wave of the magical, Disney princess wand, and my MC's love children were literally deleted from existence.

this is a fake pregnancy where they are "impregnated" with magic power. and then they give birth to more magic power for you.
according to lore you can choose to include a real baby alongside the magic power incubation, but at the moment MC automatically chooses to never do so.

 

[Bronzescorpion]

My hopes were rising that this game was going somewhere, but then I hit the, "Uh-oh! Belly too big, no more touch! " lazy content ending, and then their pregnancies suddenly disappeared with a wave of the magical, Disney princess wand, and my MC's love children were literally deleted from existence.

Kind of ironic calling someone else lazy when you don't bother reading what is clearly explained and laid out before you. You can disagree with the execution, but it shouldn't have come as a surprise at all.

 

[TheorPhys]

Hyped to at last see Alice's massive jugs